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    I can barely think of 5 goals let alone 25, maybe I should shrink it to 1 and 5

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    damn thats a goal in of itself

    well, 1 down

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    “We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch

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    The link between polygamy and war
    Plural marriage, bred of inequality, begets violence



    "If the richest and most powerful 10% of men have, say, four wives each, the bottom 30% of men cannot marry. Young men will take desperate measures to avoid this state.
    This is one of the reasons why the Arab Spring erupted, why the jihadists of Boko Haram and Islamic State were able to conquer swathes of Nigeria, Iraq and Syria, and why the polygamous parts of Indonesia and Haiti are so turbulent. Polygamous societies are bloodier, more likely to invade their neighbours and more prone to collapse than others are. The taking of multiple wives is a feature of life in all of the 20 most unstable countries on the Fragile States Index."

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    The lower your social class, the ‘wiser’ you are, suggests new study

    "The findings make sense, Jayawickreme says, as people who grow up in a working-class environment have to rely on shared, communal resources more than people in the middle class, and therefore hone social techniques that smooth out conflicts with their peers. Those in the middle class, in contrast, tend to focus on education, which improves their IQ scores, but they don’t put nearly as much effort into conflict resolution skills, Grossmann says."

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    7) Trump eats McDonald's because he's afraid of being poisoned


    If he's afraid to be poisoned then why tf does he eat McDonald's lmao

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    Trump wants to make money, the guy who wrote the book wants to make money (if he was close to Trump like he said, why is he betraying the confidence he was given?). It's all a big cycle where you wonder if they're all as bad as each other in the reptile pit. Or maybe he'll surprise us and donate it to the blue skies and sunny weather TM appeal.

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    lol I love how Trump has advanced the collective unconscious in a way only the fool can

    its like people really used to believe his straightforward lies but he's created such a discernible pattern of misrepresentation people are starting to realize the rote negation of anything adverse to one's agenda is indicative of an unreliable authority (not actually knowing it all, and being infallible), which in turn tends to itself warrant negation. in short, people realize the Fi principle that the negation of a claim by a bad person speaks to its veracity. this has been a long time coming in America. hopefully it creates a permanent mark

    all this is in reference to his "full of untruths and boring" claim about the book--lol as if he read it. they should put it that the cover (I stole this idea from reddit) and I bet this thing sells a million copies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    its like people really used to believe his straightforward lies but he's created such a discernible pattern of misrepresentation people are starting to realize the rote negation of anything adverse to one's agenda is indicative of an unreliable authority
    Are they though? They seem just as willing to believe as ever, or at least to ignore his ridiculous statements.

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    it always surprises me when people toward the end of their lives are still concerned with making money. I always thought the reverse ought to be the case where it becomes how best to give it up. not because I want their shit, but because I feel like the person themselves would benefit most from that. like, its the right answer even if you're ruthlessly self interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    it always surprises me when people toward the end of their lives are still concerned with making money. I always thought the reverse ought to be the case where it becomes how best to give it up. not because I want their shit, but because I feel like the person themselves would benefit most from that. like, its the right answer even if you're ruthlessly self interested
    spoken like a true bachelor Trump has fathered 5 kids and now has 8 grandkids. if you are not a dead branch and have family and future generations are coming from you, you'll be obsessed with making money too, not for yourself but for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    spoken like a true bachelor Trump has fathered 5 kids and now has 8 grandkids. if you are not a dead branch and have family and future generations are coming from you, you'll be obsessed with making money too, not for yourself but for them.
    It always surprised me why people were so concerned with making money at all, esp when their kids are growing up, cause then they miss out on what matters; their kids and life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by at sirac son of sirac View Post
    It always surprised me why people were so concerned with making money at all, esp when their kids are growing up, cause then they miss out on what matters; their kids and life.
    they have dreams and goals in life, and so do their kids, and money goes a long way in realizing your dreams
    a father working long hours to provide for his kids is showing that his kids matter to him--too bad so few are able to appreciate the hard work that many men and women do for their families

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeves View Post
    they have dreams and goals in life, and so do their kids, and money goes a long way in realizing your dreams
    a father working long hours to provide for his kids is showing that his kids matter to him--too bad so few are able to appreciate the hard work that many men and women do for their families
    Nothing wrong with a father working long hours, but hey, Trump's worth 4bn The reality is for most families, to meet consumer expectations, requires 2 wages.

    Anyway what went wrong was women seeking 'liberation' to enter the workforce, which reduced overall wages so now two adult incomes pretty much goes as far as one used to. But, your profile says social work as occupation, so I guess you see more marital problems which keeps your materialistic outlook going

    Regardless it's a big subject probably, and my foods ready.

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    Making money can be an unexpected result of just living your life, or a habit, or an obsession.

    If it is a habit, then it can be changed, usually by being replaced by another habit.

    If it is an obsession, then age will almost certainly not change that.

    A friend of mine once told me that every person spends the rest of their life trying to solve the problems that they encountered when they were 20. The Rolling Stones encapsulated this view in a song.

    "… But you were never brought up right.
    You were always spoiled with a thousand toys but still you cried all night.
    Your mother who neglected you owes a million dollars tax.
    And your father's still perfecting ways of making sealing wax.…"

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    I guess we'll see

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    The worst case of child abuse...was studied like the most important case in cognitive development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)

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    http://nationalpost.com/news/world/s...-in-air-pocket

    It's an article about two divers who ran into trouble in an underwater cave after their guideline broke and they accidentally stirred up silt from the ground, which made it difficult to see, while already running low on oxygen. After failing to retrieve their guideline, they discovered an air pocket in a chamber nearby where they talked through their options. They only had enough air for one of divers to make it out, if he could make it out, so they agreed to let the skinnier diver (Guillem) navigate himself out of the cave so that he could contact a rescue team, while the other diver (Gracia) was expected to remain in the cave until Guillem returned. Gracia survived 60 hours underwater with an air pocket as his sole source of oxygen, which contained a high concentration of CO2, and a single torch which was already running low on battery, so he only used the torch when he needed to pee, or so that he could climb down to retrieve fresh water. But the rest of the time, he was attempting to stay afloat and awake in the dark, while somehow not shitting his pants.

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    I like zizek and I like peterson, my initial take on it is zizek is essentially trolling here, I have a feeling they agree on all essential matters and they're as close to an Illuminati secretly laughing/crying at the masses as we're ever going to get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I like zizek and I like peterson, my initial take on it is zizek is essentially trolling here, I have a feeling they agree on all essential matters and they're as close to an Illuminati secretly laughing/crying at the masses as we're ever going to get
    What essential matters do you think they agree on? I'm asking because I like them both too (kind of superficially, granted, I don't consume this stuff in depth) and I don't have a great idea about what the common threads are.

    Lol @laughing/crying at the masses.

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    notice zizek doesn't really go after him on any specific claims just strawmans some generalities which I think is just being a general provocateur not aimed at peterson so much as his followers

    its more like a pro wrestling match

    to extend the analogy, you cay say they agree on:

    participating in the orginzation
    getting paid
    the general script
    what sides are what
    who the general audience is
    and how to talk to them
    what level they're on intellectually
    etc
    etc

    to me its almost like zizek is asking rather politely, all things considered, peterson for clarification (on behalf of perhaps an as yet unconvinced segment), but while trying to save face so he's not like a student raising his hand. in other words, its sort of a game to save face, but it seems they agree inasmuch as its more or less a big game

    so you'll see the camps fight it out somewhere I'm sure for zizek throwing the gauntlet but its more like a proxy intellectual request playing itself out across social lines

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