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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    Apparently I've been sending mixed signals like crap and he didn't know what to make of it. But, man. Maybe he's got Aspergers or something. LSI =autism. You have to have a disease to think someone is not interested when they tell you they like 3 other guys just as much as they like you.
    What a dumb thing to say to someone you're hoping to form a monogamous relationship with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    You have to have a disease to think someone is not interested when they tell you they like 3 other guys just as much as they like you.
    In terms of quadra values ...I think Gamma has a much more healthy and practical view of relationships, in general. No time wasted playing games, teasing and testing or 'tormenting' the other unless they know there's something "internal" to back up the whole thing.
    i wish this was true. in any case you've more or less told him he has 3 other guys to compete with, which to me is game playing and "tormenting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    You have to have a disease to think someone is not interested when they tell you they like 3 other guys just as much as they like you.
    What the hell? If some guy told me that he liked 3 other girls just as much as he liked me - I'd say, "Bye. Have fun with them. Asshole." And yeah, imo someone is clearly NOT all that interested in me if they like 3 other girls just as much. That's not a disease, it's common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    What a dumb thing to say to someone you're hoping to form a monogamous relationship with.
    I'm not hoping that, it's only your assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    What the hell? If some guy told me that he liked 3 other girls just as much as he liked me - I'd say, "Bye. Have fun with them. Asshole." And yeah, imo someone is clearly NOT all that interested in me if they like 3 other girls just as much. That's not a disease, it's common sense.
    lol. chill. And how am I supposed to see exactly what LSI is about huh? I think I'm free to juggle my own methods and forms of teasing. Anyway the "confusion" the dude talked about is a large part of what he needs as an "Aggressor" ..he has to periodically make some show of force and 'conquer' his position in relation to a partner, naturally. Which most likely I know better than him, cause for some good insight in folks' subconscious you usually need Ni or Ne.

    And as a response to lungs' words : the 'tormenting' and more or less serious game-playing is part of Beta toolkit anyway, LSI likes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    lol. chill. And how am I supposed to see exactly what LSI is about huh? I think I'm free to juggle my own methods and forms of teasing. Anyway the "confusion" the dude talked about is a large part of what he needs as an "Aggressor" ..he has to periodically make some show of force and 'conquer' his position in relation to a partner, naturally. Which most likely I know better than him, cause for some good insight in folks' subconscious you usually need Ni or Ne.

    And as a response to lungs' words : the 'tormenting' and more or less serious game-playing is part of Beta toolkit anyway, LSI likes it.
    You're simply full of shit. I suggest you to go for neither of the two guys, it'd be better for both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You're simply full of shit. I suggest you to go for neither of the two guys, it'd be better for both of them.
    ... says the expert in human character and relationships :-). Fuck off and let people be.

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    You can honourably continue with both, but you should be transparent by stating you are finding it difficult to resolve the quandary to both parties. They then have the right to react as they see fitting. Otherwise you haven't been honest and will view yourself with lower regard as you continue with these potential partners.

    Its sometimes fitting and appropriate to reconcile that you may have got stuck in Analysis Paralysis.

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    where the fuck do you all people live, in a village in the bottom of a forest?! There are many relationship forms quite publicly and freely accepted nowadays. And it's a personal choice after all. I hate the idea of commitment to one person if it's not something deep and authentic. And I'm starting to see quite clearly it's the LSI I'm more into as things develop. All this stuff with both is still in a quite incipient stage of dating/relating anyway. Never mind. I've found the best place and ppl for such discussion obviously.

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    You're so friendly.

    It's a choice between two (or more) partners who both have to make a personal choice which requires a certain degree of openness and trust to function. However, if you wish to avoid that reality, then my original statement is quite relevant.

    I'm glad we had this talk.

    May your Analysis Paralysis abate.

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    for me the "analysis" was over after I saw more reactions from the guys. But obviously some bunch of good-willed intelligent moralists on a socionics forum thought it wise to go on a discussion for some reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    for me the "analysis" was over after I saw more reactions from the guys. But obviously some bunch of good-willed intelligent moralists on a socionics forum thought it wise to go on a discussion for some reasons.
    Oh, that's just the assholes on this forum.

    I realised after several months that it's not worth getting upset because it is like being angry that engines whirr, gears turn, or that the sun rises in the morning.

    Dogs go bark, cats go meow, no-one knows what the fox says and the16types.info forum members assume what you think without you indicating it or by stating your position is directly in opposition to what you have indicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    for me the "analysis" was over after I saw more reactions from the guys. But obviously some bunch of good-willed intelligent moralists on a socionics forum thought it wise to go on a discussion for some reasons.
    No u opened the discussion not us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    No u opened the discussion not us.
    and did u read the title. i opened a talk from a fucking "socionics approach" - 2 intertype rel. allegedly problematic or double-edged. i should have talked to my grandma or gone to church to get some morality-and -convention check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    and did u read the title. i opened a talk from a fucking "socionics approach" - 2 intertype rel. allegedly problematic or double-edged. i should have talked to my grandma or gone to church to get some morality-and -convention check.
    Well that's a complex one because I don't believe intertype relations identify relationship compatibility; more the 'ease of information exchange' (sic. information can be both positive and negative). I don't think I would want to use Socionics 'in anger' to try to prioritise partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Well that's a complex one because I don't believe intertype relations identify relationship compatibility; more the 'ease of information exchange' (sic. information can be both positive and negative). I don't think I would want to use Socionics 'in anger' to try to prioritise partners.
    "in anger" ..? was this Fe polr, Te base or what exactly? or just plain BS. All the communication that this thread has sunk into only proves what a "golden rule" Socionics is: a bunch of folks I'm sort of neutral or indifferent towards have started moralizing and throwing shit as trophies on the altar of "socionics intertype relationships".

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    @AshSun: Don't get mad if we tell you you're being stupid. If you can't hack it, don't ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    @AshSun: Don't get mad if we tell you you're being stupid. If you can't hack it, don't ask.
    Narc, feel free to massage your ego with whatever socionico-lingo you want. You're way beneath me in terms of achievement and intellectual potential, don't worry. It's visible. You HAVE to bullshit around, you can't help it. That makes you weak .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    Narc, feel free to massage your ego with whatever socionico-lingo you want. You're way beneath me in terms of achievement and intellectual potential, don't worry. It's visible. You HAVE to bullshit around, you can't help it. That makes you weak .
    If you think someone has Aspergers because they're not responding well to you telling them you're interested in three other guys, I don't think you can make any claims of intellectual superiority over anyone on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    If you think someone has Aspergers because they're not responding well to you telling them you're interested in three other guys, I don't think you can make any claims of intellectual superiority over anyone on this forum.
    Too bad that's what you think. It lacks any kind of subtlety and you obviously don't have any grasp on humor. Let alone distinct types of it. You sound like a piece of wood when saying this. Too bad, cause for a while I didn't find what you said totally simplistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    Too bad that's what you think. It lacks any kind of subtlety and you obviously don't have any grasp on humor. Let alone distinct types of it. You sound like a piece of wood when saying this. Too bad, cause for a while I didn't find what you said totally simplistic.
    lol awwwwww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    lol awwwwww
    don't waste your time, baby. It's hard to make someone think they're stupid when they're not

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshSun View Post
    don't waste your time, baby. It's hard to make someone think they're stupid when they're not
    Okay chriscorey. You go keep having fun in the sandbox, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Okay chriscorey. You go keep having fun in the sandbox, then.
    go find yourself a goal different from me . ok?

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    lol @ moving my comment. wtf.... .... you're kind of crazy.... like scary crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    lol @ moving my comment. wtf.... .... you're kind of crazy.... like scary crazy.
    you clearly haven't had an orgasm for a while. but yeah ...they moved our passionate conversation against my will. scary

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    I wouldn't converse with blackburry or Narc while sober, so definitely not me. I'm not sure if insult or compliment. :/
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    @AshSun

    If you want shit to progress, go LSI. The cool/reserved nature will melt away once trust sets in.

    Even if LSI plays slight games don't play them back. (Hypocritical I know) If they see you wavering in interest they will most likely back off.

    Though after reading some of your responses in regards to telling him you like three others....O.o If I were him I'd be running for the hills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemoglobin View Post
    @AshSun

    If you want shit to progress, go LSI. The cool/reserved nature will melt away once trust sets in.

    Even if LSI plays slight games don't play them back. (Hypocritical I know) If they see you wavering in interest they will most likely back off.

    Though after reading some of your responses in regards to telling him you like three others....O.o If I were him I'd be running for the hills.
    I sense he's been trying both to test me via "Se" (boundaries, strength ..) and at the same time to let some tone of trust and reliability set in. It can be an interesting contradiction, but not easy to push through smoothly. I have the impression that the exact thing you described in the Beta Quadra as a sexual preference with this man also takes place at the level of the whole personality and interaction: "a long and slow courtship dance of mental fortitude and aggression; posturing. Manipulation, cornering, and taking control of the other person.". So the thing got stale for a while, because obviously I responded to what I saw as "games" my way. I took his reserve as "oh, he just wants me to pursue him". As I've already said here, he opened up when I stated that he's very close to what I want etc. --- this was after he made a "fake takeaway" move. Basically he cornered me with his Se creative a bit to make me set or show the actual emotional tone in the relationship. At this point it seems funny.

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    Hi, you seem more interested in the LSI, so id say choose him and commit to the choice, then youre better off forgetting the other 3 options while you see what happens with you and LSI. benefit doesn't sound like the most fulfilling relationship neither does miror but apparently benefits great fun in the go for it 100% but don't settle if you're not happy at some point.

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