Installation by Emeric Chantier
"Carcass" by Baudelaire
Remember that object we saw, dear soul,
In the sweetness of a summer morn:
At a bend of the path a loathsome carrion
On a bed with pebbles strewn,
With legs raised like a lustful woman,
Burning and sweating poisons,
It spread open, nonchalant and scornful,
Its belly, ripe with exhalations.
The sun shone onto the rotting heap,
As if to bring it to the boil,
And tender a hundredfold to vast Nature
All that together she had joined;
And the sky watched that superb carcass
Like a flower blossom out.
The stench was so strong that on the grass
You thought you would pass out.
Flies hummed upon the putrid belly,
Whence larvae in black battalions spread
And like a heavy liquid flowed
Along the tatters deliquescing.
All together it unfurled, and rose like a wave
And bubbling it sprang forth;
One might have believed that, with a faint breath filled,
The body, multiplying, lived.
And this world gave out a strange music
Like of running water and of wind,
Or of grain in a winnow
Rhythmically shaken and tossed.
Form was erased and all but a vision,
A sketch slow to take shape
On a forgotten canvas, which the artist finishes
From memory alone.
Behind the rocks a fretting bitch
Looked at us with fierce mien
Anxious to retrieve from the corpse
A morsel that she had dropped.
Yet to this rot you shall be like,
To this horrid corruption,
Star of my eyes, sun of desire,
You, my angel and my passion!
Yes, such you shall be, you, queen of all graces,
After the last sacraments,
When you go beneath the grass and waxy flowers,
To mold among the skeletons.
Then, oh my beauty! You must tell the vermin,
As it eats you up with kisses,
That I have preserved the form and essence divine
Of my decayed loves.
The permeating presence of the "aestheticism of ugliness/eroticism of the underbelly" as the crux of artistic expression can be found in the works of (mostly late) 19ct french symbolists and naturalists (present in Zola's "Nana" and "Therese Raquin") that later on spread to the rest of the Europe (Kamov, Krleza, etc.).
"The negative images and descriptive words and phrases suggest disgust, but, strangely, it is a disgust that merges with attraction. Fascination, seemingly, stems from what is considered the beauty of death as it is represented in the concrete and vivid spectacle of an animal’s decomposing carcass. The rotting nature of the body seems to show life’s dirty little secret, as it were: the reality (death, or nothingness) that is hidden at the center of existence.
Nature does not discriminate in its destructiveness to accord with human perceptions and prejudices of good and evil, beauty and ugliness, and value and insignificance, but kills and dismantles all. In doing so, it feeds upon itself, life deriving sustenance from the effects of death, as the flies feed upon the carcass and lay eggs that, as “maggots,” can later “finish off/ what scraps of flesh” remain, the crumbs, as it were, of the flies and dogs’ “feast.” "
ipsa scientia potestas est-adaequatio intellectus et rei
looks sx/sp with all the stone encrusting and walling offOriginally Posted by Amber
amazing (and so home hitting
Same.)
I placed Charlie Terrell's art here because of the whole idea of "the body as a temple". The only religion accepted is a veneration of the body. There are not many suggestions of some fiery energy as the main type of interpersonal communication ... the connection is rather "carnal" (for instance, in the siamese 2-in-1 figure). I suppose a few sexual allusions may be too strong for sp/sx, but the rest is Sp imo.
Last edited by Default; 04-21-2015 at 07:39 AM.
@Amber i see schiller/'i feel you' as more sp/so because i think it's more about feeling connected to everything and everyone around him. sort of like in this way:
I love this.all the art of this dude's is sp/sx (Juan Gatti)
All this sex + plants stuff has gotten impossibly old
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I saw this on fb today and it reminded me of your post.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Mary Lambert - Secrets
not sure why this image made me think of sp/sx stacking
She may be a 9 and Fi valuer too. She reminds me of someone I know.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I would die for you
This scene/song/Michele Reis(IEI) kind of reminds me of @Starfall
And also Sp/Sx instinct
This song doesn't sound very self-preserving first to me. Lyrics seem very sx first.
I will burn for you
Feel pain for you
I will twist the knife and bleed my aching heart
And tear it apart
I will lie for you
Beg and steal for you
I will crawl on hands and knees until you see
You're just like me
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Sp first has sp as a neurotic thing, sp 1st with sx 2nd can often express itself in death imagery and self-destruction.
Where as sx first have obsessive thoughts their SP often lead them to run away from relations, the sp blocks the sx eventually and they flee into isolation. This song really don't contain that sp 2nd instinct checking the sx first impulses, rather it's deepening obsessive commitment full of death imagery.
The two video I've posted all flow from a position of isolation into a deepening obsessive connection, which i think is the direction of Sp into Sx.
For Sx/Sp the direction is from obsessive connection into a flight to isolation, which is why the imagery of the hungry ghost exist for Sx/Sp as these are pitiful creatures who can never satisfy their needs.
I hope I have expressed my perspective on this clearly.
good bye
It's kind of hard to explain the movie, it's Fallen Angels by Wong Kar Wai, and it's kind of a few dark stores. One of the stories is about this girl's obsessive infatuation with her assassin co-worker(who she arranges hits for) and she like goes thru his trash and masturbates on his bed(in a sort of temporary box motel room, the kind tha't spretty common in asian) when she goes to wipe it after a job.
I kind of don't want to spoil it but it's pretty dark.
I guess what reminds her of you is that the actress/character is IEI and in the movie she's always flipping thru fashion magazines. This is more just her playing out her instincts which I think is similar to yours.
Maybe you can get some context from the trailer
First part of movie
Something on the 7|8 line and sp/sx
good film. everyone in it is somewhere high on a personality disorder spectrumthe film's atmosphere is also very much so-last instinct: the environments are always dark, cloistered, cramped, cave-like (the characters are never anywhere light, airy, open) and normal social interactions are basically non-existent (the characters are all very self-absorbed).
The hitman: Antisocial, Fi polr sx/sp
The hitman's partner: Avoidant, IEI sp/sx
The mute: Schizotypal
The blonde girl: Histrionic, EIE sx/so
The mute's "girlfriend": Paranoid
Vine Sensation Brandon Calvillo - Si-SEI sp/sx
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