“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Sure.
Sp/sx 7w8 is literally give-no-fucks. Which I totally see in her. Sp/sx is in their own world. An sx/so would be much lighter and 'fun' because of lack of SP. Sx/so's have a sense of unity and community (soc). She has none.
This is a sx/so 7w8. Probably 1 fixed though:
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1. Sx/so is contra flow which you never seem to get. Therefore, they do participate in the community but the way they do it is often highly provocative (and she does both - look at her insta).
2. She is wayyyyyy too reactive for 7. Sx/so 8w7 seems to fit her very well: she is guarding/struggles with her inner innocence and is always attacking authority (7w8 does attack authority but not so often as she does because after some point the amount of negative energy is exhausting and they’d rather just do what they want than argue about it).
3. What kind of sp first goes around stealing cars and doing reckless things without a second thought all the time? (There’s even a video of her getting beaten up - sp/sx can be intense but they would never go as far as she does into real danger impulsively. It would be more calculated on purpose than that.)
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
Contraflow doesnt mean aggressive like you seem to think. She is reactive but with an 8 wing plus an 8 fix it is so. Her being sp/sx also makes her less careful about asserting herself.
She is 14, 14 can year olds do stuff like that. And the reckless things is because core 7. She's a problem child, she does reckless things to entertain her (7) and she dont feel that bad about things bcause all the 8 influence + sp/sx. I know an sp/sx who have broken into cars. It's not really an sp first thing or not. 6s would be hesitant because of the risks, maybe. And its more a matter of morality. Sp firsts do drugs, Sp firsts kill themselves, Sp firsts commit crimes, etc. Actually I think most addicts and alcoholics are sp firsts, because part of self-pres is their own personal experience of things, so they put that ahead of everything.
Risk-taking is 7.
And she still has no sense of unity like i said - an sx/so would have this alot.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
thats more seen with socials.. maybe a soc last 6 could post something like that though
@Olimpia I think Dita could be sx/sp. I'm not really feeling sp/sx. I hate to use the word synflow but I feel it fits in this one. She doesn't have that creepy/evil/edgy thing that sp/sx has.
From 5:47 she goes on about SX and how compares partners to a drug. Seems sx first.
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Hugh Hefner - sp/sx (the "decadent" sx-subtype)
Dita is one of the most "synflow" Sp/Sx people I have come across, that is probably why I tend to like her. I am guessing it is mainly her strong 9 fix (I'd type her as 496) that makes her seem more "synflow" than she truly is. I don't see her main fixation being SX, however. She's got a natural ease about SX matters, she does not seem to stress out about them. With Sx first people, a strong connection to someone else is their main concern, and it strongly impacts how they act in the world... I don't see Dita being so Sx first focused. She's got that self-contained attitude of Sp/Sx. She uses her Sx "creatively", recreationally, especially when she does her burlesque shows (which are rather contraflow; that is also where she met Marilyn Manson back in the day, an Sx/So fellow contraflow guy).
Going into Socionics, I have noticed that +Fe people will generally seem more "synflow", whereas -Fe people will generally seem more "contraflow" on an energetic basis. Dita has +Fe. And I used to initially mistype certain -Fe individuals as Contraflow, because of the -Fe... like @Number 9 large for example, who I initially typed as Sp/Sx, but now I am rather sure he is actually Sx/Sp. His Social blindspot and -Fe just make him seem more "contraflow" than he truly is.
Dude no -_- doesnt fit sx/so at all. He's infusing everyones weekday with porn, and everyone thinks he's creepy (sp/sx). People get angry at him at his radio show because he has no social awareness about what is okay/not okay to talk about.
He has no neuroticism around sx and is mainly concerned with himself (SP).
sp/sx: pirate, sex trader, voodoo fetishist
sx/so: comet, flamenco dancer, shooting star
sx/so's are likeable for the most part, and I've never heard anyone call an sx/so creepy (though I'm sure there are some exceptions). They care about being likeable because of social. Sp/sx on the other hand don't, and especially not 7(w8)s
@maniac
What does he have in common with Danielle Bregoli who you also type as 7w8 sp/sx, other than they’re both “edgy”? Danielle has never been called creepy and it’s pretty obvious they aren’t the same type by comparing their behavior and attitudes. Danielle is 7 wing and I would agree that Howard is a core 7 but he’s clearly not sp first. sp/sx is more than just edgy. He seems more sx/so and stereotypically sp last to me as well - there’s a difference between “not knowing” and exploiting or ignoring. No true sp/sx is purposely focused on getting that much attention by exploiting the social environment.
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
She might be 9 core (maybe 926). But i still think sx/sp. To me, i dont see an sx "ease". But i dont really get a strong impression of her instincts, which could be because of core 9.
Her doing burlesque I dont see as sp/sx either.. it might be shes so into sx that she needs to have sex in everything that she does. I know sp/sx's who are in more explicitly sex work like cam girling and posting nude pictures for money etc and that thing i see as sp/sx (though not all of those people are sp/sx obviously) but burlesque is a different thing. It's more classy and seems to value sex more highly rather than something you can just throw around here and there. It's not exposing everything and its more a work of art, in my eyes. Part of her doing burlesque seems to be a prioritized need to be attractive and wanted, which is also sx.
If she's not sx/sp, then sx/so imo.
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Howard Stern is definitely SX/SO. That man has no breaks.
There is really none of that hooded, shrouded social isolate vibe about him. He has plenty of social confidence to go around, that much is evident.
Even he himself is giving thumbs up to his own soc-valuing typing lol
Soc last 7s are the least introverted of the soc lasts because theyre looking for something to fulfill them and escape to constantly to avoid pain.
He has 0 social awareness which is extremely obvious and is why he keeps pissing people off and then being like "wait what did I do?"