Johammadeezus on Information Elements (thread split)

[Absurd]

that's why I said "I think" and "might be" instead of "I know" and "must be"

Weren't feelers supposed to feel and not think?

Why do you get up in the morning?

[Olduvai]

Weren't feelers supposed to feel and not think?

Why do you get up in the morning?

in your view, what is meant by "feel" and what is meant by "think"?

answer to your second question: because I'm not tired anymore, duh

[Absurd]

in your view, what is meant by "feel" and what is meant by "think"?

Chase, seriously, this is some fine construct you constructed here/are still constructing. I don't know whether this is my morbid curiosity that tells me to focus on you more closely or the fact that I've seen it somewhere before.

Either way feeling is and has always been an subjective experience of emotion, at least psychology wise.

Your turn.

(And why can't I supervise woof instead of Jim? Am I inferior in your eyes?)

Aww, everybody feels...everybody thinks.

What do you think about Arturo Giovannitti?

What do you feel towards Arturo Giovannitti?

[Aylen]

What do you think about Arturo Giovannitti?

What do you feel towards Arturo Giovannitti?

I think he looks like Oscar Wilde. I feel nothing.

[Absurd]

I think he looks like Oscar Wilde. I feel nothing.

Where do you think you see the resemblance and you have stated that everybody feels and thinks, yet it is a bit disappointing that you do not feel anything.

[Olduvai]

Chase,

It's "Charlie", not "Chase". Sheesh.

seriously, this is some fine construct you constructed here/are still constructing.

Thanks, I thought so too. After all, I define "Ne" as "Explicit Field/Condition/Construct Statics".

I don't know whether this is my morbid curiosity that tells me to focus on you more closely or the fact that I've seen it somewhere before.

Auditor seems like a significant person; how he acts deserves attention.

Yes/no?

Either way feeling is and has always been an subjective experience of emotion, at least psychology wise.

So "to feel" would mean "to subjectively experience emotion"? What would "to think" mean?

(And why can't I supervise woof instead of Jim? Am I inferior in your eyes?)

Assuming I'm right (which I'm probably not), you can do me one better: you can conflict with him. I'm starting to wonder if you're ESI; if so, I urge you to antagonize woof as much as possible.

[Absurd]

It's "Charlie", not "Chase". Sheesh.

Fair enough.

Thanks, I thought so too. After all, I define "Ne" as "Explicit Field/Condition/Construct Statics".

What does it have to do with anything I have wrote so far? Nothing?

[/COLOR]Yes/no?

Yes.

(Problem is, you're giving me attention now and you get me oh so confused now, that is, I am starting to think I am supervising you now. Help out a brother here, who doesn't read Morning Start and can't stand being called a brother).

What would "to think" mean?

It is the act of producing thoughts, which in your case means you have a problem and I am here to profit from your problems.

Assuming I'm right (which I'm probably not), you can do me one better: you can conflict with him. I'm starting to wonder if you're ESI; if so, I urge you to antagonize woof as much as possible.

The act of assumption again, eh?

Come on, Charlie Sheen, it is time you castaway your hypotheses, you're starting to sound liek a hypothetical person already.

Let me summarise: first EII, then EIE, now ESI. God damn, Sheen, I mean Charlie, purchase yourself a nice lightning conductor and whenever you have a thought, let it strike it. As for conflicting woofl, hell yes I will do, after I am finished with you. Rhyming with Absurd made easy, you just need to pull the trigger and squeezy.

[Olduvai]

What does it have to do with anything I have wrote so far? Nothing?

You said that I said that feelers only feel and never think (which isn't even what I said), and somehow that was supposed to invalidate something else I said. I thought the appropriate response would be to ask for clarification as to the meaning of "to feel" and "to think".

(Problem is, you're giving me attention now and you get me oh so confused now, that is, I am starting to think I am supervising you now. Help out a brother here, who doesn't read Morning Start and can't stand being called a brother).

Maybe I just like attention?

It is the act of producing thoughts, which in your case means you have a problem and I am here to profit from your problems.

But what is a "thought" as opposed to a "feeling"? Aren't they both "thoughts" insofar as they are both "products of cognition"?

The act of assumption again, eh?

It was purely for hypothetical purposes.

Come on, Charlie Sheen, it is time you castaway your hypotheses, you're starting to sound liek a hypothetical person already.

Hypotheses about what? Your type?

Let me summarise: first EII, then EIE, now ESI. God damn, Sheen, I mean Charlie, purchase yourself a nice lightning conductor and whenever you have a thought, let it strike it. As for conflicting woofl, hell yes I will do, after I am finished with you. Rhyming with Absurd made easy, you just need to pull the trigger and squeezy.

Don't fuck with K. Chesney; you're just a gay lesbi

[Absurd]

You said that I said that feelers only feel and never think (which isn't even what I said), and somehow that was supposed to invalidate something else I said. I thought the appropriate response would be to ask for clarification as to the meaning of "to feel" and "to think".

Yes sir, I wrote that. I'm going to write it again: feelers feel, thinkers think.

Maybe I just like attention?

"Maybe" is another assumption.

But what is a "thought" as opposed to a "feeling"? Aren't they both "thoughts" insofar as they are both "products of cognition"?

No, they're not. Two distinct things, two different animals. Besides, I already scribbled what thoughts are and what feelings are and I am inclined to say you're totally irrational, based on your inability to differentiate between those two.

It was purely for hypothetical purposes.

You don't say.

Hypotheses about what? Your type?

Hablas españo? No, about this bottle of water that rests at my desk now.

Don't fuck with K. Chesney; you're just a gay lesbi

Post your pic and I will decide that to do.

[woofwoofl]

Maybe I just like attention?

Now that you've got some, I sure as hell hope for the both of us that you know what to do with it. That which you got right more certainly than anything else is that which you've shown the least certainty towards. Which segues smoothly into the next issue:

I'm going to continue posting videos and providing modest commentary

You can't continue "providing modest commentary" because you never began. You've compared yourself to Mozart, Jesus, and Einstein, you've said you came to retype everyone who was supposedly mistyped as if you were some sort of savior of Socionics, and then you said your ultimate motivation was to make money. As I said before, Pod'Lair beat you there. And as far as the ridiculous messiah persecution mania on your end goes, you haven't been persecuted like Mozart as much as you've been pelted with rocks like Chad Kroeger, you haven't been crucified like Jesus as much as you've been beseiged like David Koresh, and you haven't been... hell, I don't even know what type of supposed victimization you're going for with the "Einstein" thing...

the reason why I provide such little evidence to support my claims is because it is difficult for me to put in words why I think someone is a particular type.

You'd save your ass a lot if you at least made an attempt. You've been gallivanting around the boards, retyping everyone without any consideration for the system itself, let alone the members. If you don't actively attempt to clear the opacity of the black box operation you're running, someone's gonna try to smash the whole damned thing open for you.

There's a lot of people on here whose conclusions I disagree with, but I've seen, in one way or another, a certain methodology of theirs that differs from mine in such a way that their entire operations slice across mine perpendicularly, and I have particular things I check for in regards to my own typings based on what they end up with. Without going into further details, this is one thing that has been a thorn in my side in regards to me using the SEE configuration in regards to self-type for years, and there's a reason I phrased my sentence in that manner. I don't "think" of anyone as a "type", I find whatever type configuration I find to fit best for a person, and I use it. The difference is large, and it's fucking important. Finding the difference out for yourself, if you're currently unaware that there is one, can be the first of hopefully many steps in the journey of you learning to cool it with the wild speculative long-jumps to nowhere or worse.

Having said that, and due to multiple events in my world that, in part, comprise this crazy assed thing called life, I'm gonna publicly relax my Se-SEE typing just in time for you to constructively and proactively make a case for something. You've got one week. Rock me, Amadeus.

[Aylen]

Weren't feelers supposed to feel and not think?

Why do you get up in the morning?

Aww, everybody feels...everybody thinks. I think a group hug is called for...

I just feel the love here... <3

I know my socionics

*giggles*