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challenge accepted!Originally Posted by rat1
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Lilith describes you so well. ...you are Lilith.
I read a bit about Lilith. She is supposed be brided with Samael after Eve rejected her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael
According to Zoharistic cabala, Samael was also mated with Eisheth Zenunim, Na'amah, and Agrat Bat Mahlat—all angels of sacred prostitution.
You say you know who I am.
Do you really know me?
I am always questioning... who am I really? Can I really be who I really am?
I'm trying to find a poem on him as beautiful as the one you found for Lilith. Where did you find that poem?
In the Talmud:
The Talmud states that Satan and Samael the Angel of Death, are the same, and Samael is also there made equivalent to the Biblical serpent of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.... In conjunction with Lilith, who was one of his wives (see Lilith’s blog), he is represented as the Evil Beast.
I found it here.. don't judge me...
http://succubuspoetry.weebly.com/
"Wildcats shall meet with hyenas;
goat-demons shall call to each other.
There too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest."
Isaiah 34:14
I will pm you some sites.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Actually that isn't true at all. In the Tanakh Satan is a part of God's creation and there is nothing within the Jewish tradition that stands counter power to God. Satan is only a reference to an angel which accommodates death and not evil
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
"You are pure awareness disguised as a person.”
I read that somewhere recently.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Why would I?
I am wondering how far off topic this is going. Since it's all about going to hell, I guess not very.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Eckhart Tolle I think stole that from somebody.
I am wondering how far off topic this is going. Since it's all about going to hell, I guess not very.
I saw it while reading your chart. I didn't know he said that. I have one of his books but never read it. I am actually trying to read "a course in miracles" again, at the suggestion of someone who is reading it right now. She wants me to do the 365 day thing from the book.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
^ that's goddess energy. smfh
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
What Goddess?
^I know Maritsa.
I would say, Lilith, Aphrodite/Venus and others but we will go with Lilith.
http://www.lilithinstitute.com/creations/liturgy.html
Edit: we need a mythology thread
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Yeah and I need to buy a comprehensive book on mythology.
And my 'pure awareness' is suppressed. I can't express myself to my full potential. I just want to bring this society down. Become a drug dealer. Live or die, who cares?
do you have a reader? i have some stuff for kindle and some epub files.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Ah.
I'm gona write something in my blog about astrology before I sleep.
No but they aren't expensive if you've got good stuff.
I will create an ftp account for you so you can look through what I have. I will do it when my family leaves. They should be here tomorrow.
Edit: I have a stuff on Atlantis and Lemuria, as well
Edit again: I should really wait and put this in another thread I am planning but, anyway. grain of salt.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/at..._lemuria_8.htm
Last edited by Aylen; 02-15-2014 at 07:19 AM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@rat1, believe it or not Wikipedia is not a source which is worthy to be referred to. It has some good articles, but is also full of mistakes and half-knowledge.
So, as long as you don't provide a primary source for your hypothesis for the parallels between the New Testament and astrology, some ancient text about what people knew about the stars and so on, you're statement is completely irrelevant.
Anyone who is a little bit interested in esoteric stuff and the occult and has issues with the christian faith could fake something like that. I'm just being realistic here.
I mean, how come I find the stuff only on pages with a clear esoteric background and the pages I googled didn't provide any references to primary sources either?
Just to make it clear, what I mean, something from Wiki for you: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source
Yeah.... I knew you'd say as much @kadda1212. I wrote this earlier for you, and saved it in a notepad file.
I cited probably.... 10 or so wiki pages referencing mostly stars & constellations in my astrotheology bit, wouldn't you say?
The first point I made was about Aries the lamb. Let's have a look at how much evidence exists for Aries being symbolized by fire, the Ram & Lamb, & being the first sign.
I assure you I can compile just as much evidence for everything else I cited, but we will focus on this for now.
...I don't know if you're aware that a lamb, a sheep, and a ram are all the same animal.
Definition of Lamb:
lamb
noun
1. a young sheep.
Definition of Ram:
ram
noun
1. an uncastrated male sheep.
Definition of sheep: ... sheep.
(Jesus is the sheep, God is the shepherd)
the Rig-Veda mentioning Aries as a Ram (~2000 BC)
https://www.google.com/#q=aries+ram+rig+veda
"The ram (avi, also called mesha in the Vedas) is Aries."
Here is the first google result for 'aries', a western astrology site talking about aries the ram, and being the 1st zodiac sign:
http://www.astrology.com/aries-sun-s...ns/2-d-d-66918
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/2924.htm
In Hebrew, Aries is called "Taleh" and means "the Lamb".
http://biblenumbers.files.wordpress....-the-heart.pdf Great link. I recommend reading the whole thing
"The Hebrew name for the sign is ‘Taleh’: “the lamb”.
The bright star in the head is ‘El Natik’: “slain” which
the Arabs called ‘Hamal’: “sheep”."
Jesus, the lamb, is slain.
http://www.livekabbalah.org/index.ph...h/nisan-aries/
"The Torah says, on the tenth of Nisan (month when sun is in Aries), as a symbolic act of control, the Hebrews took a lamb (Aries) and tied it to their homes. Then, on the twilight of the 15th day they slautered it and roasted it on the fire."
Another great link worth the full read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aries_(constellation)
"Aries has three prominent stars forming an asterism, designated Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Arietis by Johann Bayer. All three are commonly used for navigation.[27] There is also one other star above the fourth magnitude, 41 Arietis. α Arietis, called Hamal, is the brightest star in Aries. Its traditional name is derived from the Arabic word for "lamb" or "head of the ram" (ras al-hamal), which references Aries's mythological background.[18] With a spectral class of K2[13] and a luminosity class of III, it is an orange giant with an apparent visual magnitude of 2.00, which lies 66 light-years from Earth.[12][28] Hamal has a luminosity of 96 L☉ and its absolute magnitude is −0.1.[29]"
More evidence Aries is known as the most firey sign symbolized by Rams:
http://www.tarot.com/astrology/zodiac/aries
http://www.mazzaroth.com/InsertFive/AriesStarChart.htm
"Others call Aries ‘The Lamb,' although it is a Ram-like creature comparable to the Capricornus Goat-like creature giving rise to a fish. In the New Testament the Greek word for Lamb is very similar to the word Aries, look at them for yourself.
1) Aren, ar-ane’, a noun the nominative case of which is found only in early times, occurs in Luke 10:3. It is perhaps the same as Arrhen, ar’-hrane, or Arsen, ar’-sane probably from airo, male (as stronger for lifting); a lamb (as a male).
I'm really just citing bits and pieces of the links. Flip through them yourself if you want evidence. There's a sea of evidence for it.
Last edited by rat1; 02-15-2014 at 06:35 AM.
I like this site for a different perspective and it does reference ancient sources.
http://www.thedyinggod.com/
I suppose the term ancient is relative though.Though astrology has often been regarded as representing an ancient form of knowledge devised by the Babylonians, scholars have now determined that its development was impossible, before the eighth century BC, due to the absence of a reliable system of chronology, and that, more properly, astrology was a product of the sixth century BC. This transformation, according to Bartel van der Waerden, was the result of the influence of Zoroastrianism, with its doctrine that the human soul originated in the stars.
In addition, the sixth century BC is also known in Jewish history as the Exile, when their entire population was located in the city, having been removed to there by Nebuchadnezzar, at the beginning of the century, after he had destroyed Jerusalem. Having become substantial citizens, with some achieving minor administrative posts, it is possible the Jews also contributed to this development. In fact, in the Book of Daniel, Chapter 2:48, Daniel is made chief of the "wise men" of Babylon, that is of the Magi or Chaldeans. In any case, scholars have certainly recognized that the later teachings referred to collectively as the esoteric Kabbalah, seem to have been a combination of Magian and Chaldean lore.
Astrology was not a component of mainstream Zoroastrianism, and those who incorporated its concepts into their version of the faith seem to have been regarded as heretical. As Edwin Yamauchi describes, "the relationship of the Magi to Zoroaster and his teachings is a complex and controversial issue." Ever since the early days of the Persian Empire, there had existed an antagonism with the proponents of true Zoroastrianism and the Magi. And, according the French Assyriologist Lenormant, "to their influence are to be ascribed nearly all the changes which, towards the end of the Achaemenid dynasty, corrupted deeply the Zoroastrian faith, so that it passed into idolatry."
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Astrology and Religion Among the Greeks and Romans Paperback – Facsimile, September 17, 1994
by Franz Cumont (Author)
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Some others belief in the civilization Atlantis. There is are some strange structures buried in the ocean suggesting a sunken civilization around its alleged area...
The most ancient astrology I know of came from Egypt and migrated into India. If you know of an earlier version I'd love to read about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_astrology
Among Indo-European peoples, astrology has been dated to the 3rd millennium BC, with roots in calendrical systems used to predict seasonal shifts and to interpret celestial cycles as signs of divine communications.[1]
Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for human meaning in the sky. It has been argued that astrology began as a study as soon as human beings made conscious attempts to measure, record, and predict seasonal changes by reference to astronomical cycles.[4]
Early evidence of such practices appears as markings on bones and cave walls, which show that lunar cycles were being noted as early as 25,000 years ago; the first step towards recording the Moon’s influence upon tides and rivers, and towards organizing a communal calendar.
Indian astrology:
The ancient science of astrology can be traced to the Vedas around 5000 BCE. The Vedas are among the world’s most ancient and sacred scriptures. The word Veda means knowledge coming from the root vid, to know. The Vedas are books of knowledge said to be the fundamental doctrine of Hinduism. The Vedas were received by the great sages through divine revelation, referred to as sruti and recorded for the benefit of humanity.
The Vedas are divided into four books: the Rig-Veda, the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda and the Atharva-Veda. According to Vedic astrologer and historian David Frawley, one of the first references to astrology dates back to the Rig Veda, the oldest of the scriptures. It records a description of the chakra or wheel of 360 degrees placed in the sky by Rishi Dirghatamas, pandit to one of the greatest kings of India, Bharata, the original name of India.
The Christians burned almost every ancient Egyptian document they could find and I'm not sure how far back their astrology dates, but parallels seems to suggest it migrated to india from egypt.
Last edited by rat1; 02-15-2014 at 06:21 AM.
Meh fuck m y blog. I'm slipping away into sleep
Here are some pics I took of the moon tonight. It looked very strange and the pics are not filtered that is pretty much how it looked except it was much clearer and the light you see around it was orange. I don't know why it looks like this tonight but maybe someone will.
I wasn't going to post them but whatever.
http://s318.photobucket.com/user/joy...moon%20goddess
It is making me act strange.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
tonight is a full moon. ; )
Full moons are supposed to cause confusion, chaos, emotionally expressive, manipulative, fulfillment of wants and needs..
you were born on full moon ; D
Guess that's why I've been howling today. heh
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
it feels unstable and impulsive. The emotions just flow out. Not much limitation
It turns me into a lunachick!
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
yeah it's fun
instigator (the moon)
Last edited by Aylen; 02-15-2014 at 08:01 AM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I dreamt of independent, talking cats and snakes. An orange snake wrapped around my arm, tightly. When I pulled it off, it turned into a multicolored hydra and yelled, "wake up!". I woke up.
Edit: I love how my subconscious stores information that I forgot. Then it gives me symbolism to follow. Dream artist...
Last edited by Aylen; 02-15-2014 at 09:05 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Revelation 13:3
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
http://www.biblestudytools.com/revel...3-compare.html
Last edited by Aylen; 02-15-2014 at 08:53 PM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Heathens...
What I have learned on this site is, it is whatever you want it to be.
I like the word
Edit: I definitely vibe with some heathens.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Heretic! off with your head!
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
but, but, the devil made me do it! I am innocent.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
just about to watch this, which is relevant....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...r_Bible_Truth/
not sure what will crop up but will research anything exciting
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
@rat1: Once again, those weren't primary sources. And I'm
not sure what you meant to show me by that. I know there's a lot of symbology behind the term "lamb", but what's the deal with astrology?
A primary source about what people believed about the star signs would be e.g. the Phainomena by Aratos. There it says about Aries basically only that he's pretty fast and runs through the sky.
THe Rig Veda I quoted you, written in 2000 BC, is a primary source. The attributes of Aries are talked about extensively in the links. Aries has many attributes. It's fiery, it's the exaltation point of the sun (jesus is the sun king), it's the first sign, it's associated with new undertakings, new beginnings, pioneering, holy war, innocence, righteousness, spring... Many attributes.
There are multiple Hebrew words for lamb.
Aries is the ram and the lamb.
If you don't believe it then... that's all. There's nothing left to say.
Last edited by rat1; 02-16-2014 at 01:29 PM.
By the way, @rat1, not only the Christians burned books. Yes, they destroyed the library of Alexandria. But others enjoyed destroying books, too. Alexander the Great already destroyed a lot. Later Emperor Augustus burned all the magical books in Rome. Those that still remain today are thanks to Christians who copied them.
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