What makes this relation difficult at times in the work environment?
What makes this relation difficult at times in the work environment?
Not a great deal can make it difficult. It's been a very smooth relation in my experience, and I know quite a lot of ILEs.
Last edited by chriscorey; 02-05-2014 at 11:23 PM.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
According to Gulenko LIE as rationals, start making decisions hastily starting to form targets on how they want to solve their problem. Whereas ILE as irrationals, explore and try to look at the problem's many faces before finally fixiating on targets they feel are appropriate.
LIE don't really think about their actual solution intently since they focus on targets. ILE don't really think about the targets intently as they focus on the actual solutions.
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Last edited by Soupman; 02-06-2014 at 07:15 PM.
The relationship is not necessarily "difficult". If both types make regular use of their auxiliary functions, then both will be relatively adjusted and balanced psychologically. Generally with LIE's, I try to get out of their way and make myself a good intellectual resource. If they want my help, I'll let them come to me and entertain their sporadic desires for some Ne stimulus. It's all about letting them having control of whatever apparatuses exist in your shared environment, and then positioning yourself as a intellectual resource and generally keeping yourself neutral in social relationships. They will react poorly if you seem overly diplomatic, so make a few steady relationships with complementary types. That way they won't feel threatened by Fe positioning/conspiring/factionalization. Just be real and honest in your opinions and let them come to you on their terms. make yourself a useful resource; a point of open-minded project re-direction. You will find their intuitive side if you provide them with a steady, honest relationship. Both parties will advance from private, introverted discussion.
The end is nigh
I never had personal problems interacting with ILEs in a work or school-project environment - if anything, the relationship was fruitful. Yes, I rarely get along with people in their social circles and they rarely get along with people in mine, but thatīs besides the point.
Most kind of work interactions are about trying to find a way to execute a task or finish a project, so this problem is bypassed. I could imagine such conflict if a ILE and LIE were to start a business.According to Gulenko LIE as rationals, start making decisions hastily starting to form target on how they want to solve their problem. Whereas ILE as irrationals, explore and try to look at the problem's many faces before finally fixiating on targets they feel are appropriate.
@Maritsa: no, they are both extraverted positivist (democratic), so their role in a group is to be the "silly and joking" ones.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The problem there is simply that rationals and irrationals don't agree with each others course of action due to thinking in reverse.
For irrationals the finishing of the project is not really important but rather the process instead. You just care about the end results rather than the process so we rub each other badly. We ignore your targets when they don't align with our process whilst you ignore our process when it does not align with the targets you have in mind.