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    Huh. What he says about repression is actually rather true. This is very insightful and useful.

    Also, he described my own childhood 100% perfectly. I never thought the world was all good, though. I actually thought it was all bad and I had to learn that there is good in the world.

    I also am not attracted to aggressive people (I'm bisexual), but what he said about how "you need someone around who is a little monstrous to keep the real monsters away." That deeply resonates with me--I became a little monstrous myself exactly for that reason. So, I did not seek out protection from a partner. (Protectiveness actually seems condescending to me almost, in fact.) It makes sense because when I was a child, all I could depend on was myself. I was being abused by everyone around me: mother, father, brother, bullied at school, no real friends, disconnected from extended family because of my dad's power struggle (narcissist vs narcissist competition with one another for dominance). My mother manipulates her side of the family and uses them as pawns, so my dad was extremely abusively controlling about us all interacting with them. As for my dad's side of the family, they are also abusive, it is generational. The abused became abusers. My point is, because I was surrounded by nothing but abusive people, I learned to stand alone at an incredibly young age. Instead of seeking an aggressive partner...I myself have a monstrous and aggressive side to myself.

    I'm listening to this multiple times just so I can thoroughly process the contents of this video. There's a lot to unpack when you really think about what he says here.

    I don't care what others think of him, I have a lot of respect for Jordan Peterson. Sometimes he is wrong, but who isn't?
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    Jeez...dude legit almost died...

    God...with the lady on the radio talking, and all of them talking at once, and just all the noise...it's too much noise and commotion for me, I get sensory overload...


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    Doesn't represent my personal stance on things. Just curious about what peoples' different arguments and views are. Honestly, I think this video is pretty ridiculous. "We shouldn't use pronouns coz English/language traditions!" That's a pretty lame point, especially when you consider linguistics and the way language is ever-evolving.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Maverick;[URL="tel:1560875"
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    Doesn't represent my personal stance on things. Just curious about what peoples' different arguments and views are. Honestly, I think this video is pretty ridiculous. "We shouldn't use pronouns coz English/language traditions!" That's a pretty lame point, especially when you consider linguistics and the way language is ever-evolving.
    Same. It’s actually a little depressing that with way more important issues in the world, that something trivial like wanting to adjust language to match more nuanced meaning is something to get riled up about.

    I only expect vitriol from people nowadays. Intellectualism is dead.

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    Shapiro is very similar to Brett Cooper. They actively engage with their audiences, give speeches, so I find Fe PolR unlikely. I do know that IEI seems like an unusual typing for Ben, but I think in the video you posted, 2 identical types have a conversation. As much as Shapiro claims about focusing mainly on facts, I think he is also ideologically motivated, and his emotions show more through his intense way of debating other people.

    I also think he showcases emotions and Ni through artistic pursuits.

    https://youtu.be/GUoi-JCkG5Y
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    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    Shapiro is very similar to Brett Cooper. They actively engage with their audiences, give speeches, so I find Fe PolR unlikely. I do know that IEI seems like an unusual typing for Ben, but I think in the video you posted, 2 identical types have a conversation. As much as Shapiro claims about focusing mainly on facts, I think he is also ideologically motivated, and his emotions show more through his intense way of debating other people.

    I also think he showcases emotions and Ni through artistic pursuits.



    https://youtu.be/GUoi-JCkG5Y
    Brand is IEI and from my perspective Ben is Te-ing the shit out of him....and they're both Ni

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscorey View Post
    Brand is IEI and from my perspective Ben is Te-ing the shit out of him....and they're both Ni
    what's your definition of Te? outside of "facts"? I think they get along pretty well. two people exchanging ideas, no arguments or conflicts, Ben agrees with many points that Russel makes, outside of their view on spirituality. they have a different set of characteristics for sure and maybe follow different ideologies, and Russel is obviously more openly emotional, but that's their personal idea of the world. Both are also patiently listening to the other person without interrupting them. I find Shapiro very introspective, even if I do not relate with the way he sees the world. I also think Shapiro is very similar to Jordan Peterson, who I would also type as IEI.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    what's your definition of Te? outside of "facts"? I think they get along pretty well. two people exchanging ideas, no arguments or conflicts, Ben agrees with many points that Russel makes, outside of their view on spirituality. they have a different set of characteristics for sure and maybe follow different ideologies, and Russel is obviously more openly emotional, but that's their personal idea of the world. Both are also patiently listening to the other person without interrupting them. I find Shapiro very introspective, even if I do not relate with the way he sees the world. I also think Shapiro is very similar to Jordan Peterson, who I would also type as IEI.
    As extroverted logic. The external activity of logic, the how what and where of events. He also kept his conversation serious and to the point.
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    this reminds me of the LSE from the military. He beat me for platoon guide. He had a layover in San Francisco and called me drunk. I was too far away... He then made this his myspace page song


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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscorey View Post
    As extroverted logic. The external activity of logic, the how what and where of events. He also kept his conversation serious and to the point.
    But in socionics, Ti is about reducing the primary from the secondary. Reducing a myriad of options to the essentials. Wouldn't you say that this applies to your statement that both kept the discussion on point?
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    But in socionics, Ti is about reducing the primary from the secondary. Reducing a myriad of options to the essentials. Wouldn't you say that this applies to your statement that both kept the discussion on point?
    Yeah but Brand seemed more like he was just keeping the atmosphere agreeable. Ben knowing that his religion view wasn't going to fly with Brand said it anyway. Ben didn't care about the emotional atmosphere. He said what he thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    But in socionics, Ti is about reducing the primary from the secondary. Reducing a myriad of options to the essentials. Wouldn't you say that this applies to your statement that both kept the discussion on point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscorey View Post
    the test is pretty awful to be honest. it's interesting that Shapiro, Matt Walsh and Brett Cooper report on the same things with identical opinions, though. Almost like they have the same sub-category of the same type.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    I think Mulvaney is an IEI, which is ironically the same type that I would give Shapiro, Cooper, Walsh and Grande. The vice president of marketing at Bud Light, Alissa Heinerscheid, was known as a teen harpist, and mentioning that the focus of the company needs to shift more towards inclusivity, which makes me suspect that she is an IEI as well, and that different ideologies are clashing against each other here, despite the identical types.
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    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    ni ni ni

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    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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