I don't remember exactly now, but it was either from analyzing the text you were saying, or your audial words. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful than that. If you want, drop me a line over PM, and we can have a chat. I'll ask you a few questions and will explain to you what I think your type is and why.Originally Posted by DaftPunk
I looked at some of my posts and get the feeling that I might be static and not dynamic. Can someone else see that?
static-dynamic is on a sliding scale, so there may be some static expressions in your posts but it's the relative proportion of static to dynamic constructions that is important
Te Fe Si and Ni are dynamic IEs, whereas Ti Fi Se and Ne are static IEs. There will be times when you're drawing insight from both categories, but the general idea is that you'll be better at one of the two because your ego block will either be two dynamic IEs or two static IEs, and your ego block contains your strongest conscious IEs.
I know. It's just that thoughts came up that I might be LSI but serious/judicious makes more sense than merry/decisive.
Have a gander of this to see what Fe seeking looks like. (From Amanda Peet.)I know
Hm I don't know how I would have act in the show but I was constantly smiling. At the begin I had to laugh pretty hard about the horse and als oat the end when he's dancing with the horse. Funny animals just fit my humour I also like movies like Madagascar etc.
While I have a good memory for physical characteristics I have a hard time to remember a drive on a sequential base e.g iamgine myself in the car and doing the drive in my head. But I am really good at recalling snapshots.
Another example: I used a few times the car of a friend and while I easy remember how everything looks in the garage and on the street outside the garage I still have some problems to take the right corner to bring back the car when I am driving.
I moved in a new room two months ago and bought racks and boxes that everything has its place. I also never changef something in my rooms. I had a girlfriend whom I lived together who was prone to rearrange all few weeks the furnitures, it drove me crazy.
The more I think about it the more I think that I might be LSI. The fact that Ti and Te descriptions are often overlaping when you compare the descriptions of different sources doesn't make it more easy.
According to PoLR maybe I am Ne-PoLR and not Ni-PoLR because I am normally critical to new Ideas.
SLI like trying new foods just to get an impression of new things
LSE don't really like trying new foods and they can be fussy eaters.
After all, when you try new foods, you can either experience the sensation as it comes to you
or you can turn away at it with uncertainty and unsureness because new experience of foods you have to figure out how to manage it once you like it, how to organize it and when and where to experience it. This takes some organization of the whole thing mentally
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Your speaking of LSE and not LSI right?SLI like trying new foods just to get an impression of new things
LSE don't really like trying new foods and they can be fussy eaters.
After all, when you try new foods, you can either experience the sensation as it comes to you
or you can turn away at it with uncertainty and unsureness because new experience of foods you have to figure out how to manage it once you like it, how to organize it and when and where to experience it. This takes some organization of the whole thing mentally
Some sources write that Si-creative is more prone to new foods than Si-base. I certainly fit more trying new things but IMO it's highly dependant on how you got raised.
Man, you should hear SLIs shooting down my ideas.SLIs and LSEs can both be very critical about new ideas. Also, Ne PoLR does not mean you are critical to new ideas. It is rather that you don't naturally look at things from multiple perspectives or make connections between ideas. The question is rather how you feel about new ideas, perspectives, and connections when they are presented to you? Do you enjoy being exposed to them and working through their applicability with the person presenting them or do you find them annoying and overwhelming?
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
When I try a more holistic view SLI is the only type that's fit anyway.Man, you should hear SLIs shooting down my ideas.
I am aware that I can act like a LSE and IRL maybe many people if familiar with socionics would mistake me for one.
It's said that Introverts try to make contact through their creative IE and I am just focused on Te to create a worthy product. Also in society Te is more valued than Si it's also something that Jung wrote.
Besides Ego-Block I relate the most to Fi and while I have strong moral judgement I fail to judge people attidute to me. Fi HA
I settled for LII
Forget that!!!I settled for LII
How strict are you?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Stricter than the average person and stricter than most of my friendsForget that!!!
How strict are you?
in what areas?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
wha..I don't see you as LII from how you write. I leaned towards delta for you.
I was only trying to joke around
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Several normally I like when things are done proper concerning my standards. But it tunes on and off.
I think I finally came to a conclusionI was only trying to joke around
By looking into temparaments I can clearly rule out Ej and Ep what leaves Ip and Ij.
Looking into quadra descriptions I relate to Gamma and Delta but I am pretty sure I don't value Se/Ni
So INFj and ISTp are left while I could relate to a certain point to Fi-Base I think Ne suggestive makes way more sense than Ne creative. Ne really seems to be the IE with which I am most suggestable. The relating to Fi could also be trough Fi HA
So in the end ISTp is the only type that makes sense.
P.S.: If I am not ISTp I am either INFj or ISFj
lol Ok
P.S.: If I am not ISTp I am either INFj or ISFj
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Fine you can live with itlol Ok
My advice would be to not go by the temperament articles. They're not exactly comprehensive or super reliable.Several normally I like when things are done proper concerning my standards. But it tunes on and off.
I think I finally came to a conclusion
By looking into temparaments I can clearly rule out Ej and Ep what leaves Ip and Ij.
Looking into quadra descriptions I relate to Gamma and Delta but I am pretty sure I don't value Se/Ni
So INFj and ISTp are left while I could relate to a certain point to Fi-Base I think Ne suggestive makes way more sense than Ne creative. Ne really seems to be the IE with which I am most suggestable. The relating to Fi could also be trough Fi HA
So in the end ISTp is the only type that makes sense.
P.S.: If I am not ISTp I am either INFj or ISFj
You still thinky I am LSE? Is it mainly due to VI or in general?
Yourself are Ej can you relate a bit to the Temperament description? Because I can't at all besides that I like Transports.
It might be that I appear LSE because of my e-type. I think 6 is more common for LSE than SLI
I'd take DaftPunk as dual.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I think you're rational and sensing at the very least. Even if you didn't get that from VI, you could glean it from the fact that you get genuinely frustrated when people don't explain things properly and press them for more information. Like you did just now. You do VI as rational, though. I wouldn't ignore that fact.
I relate to the EJ description only when I'm busy with something that either needs to be done or is captivating my attention. I imagine this would be whenis taking the reigns, because it's what I use to reign in and organise data, situations and people to make sense. If I'm sitting around not doing anything, more likely I'll be using
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to keep myself entertained (introspection or looking around for amusing distractions) and that's the time that I'm going to be more in line with an IP or EP description. IJ is the only one I don't completely relate to. Given that that means I spend time in three out of the four temperament styles, I don't think it's that handy. What I relate to more is base
Is there something in particular that's making you not stick with LSE? Seems like it's the type you've spent the least time with, preferring LII and SLI.
I'd consider these three as your options: LSI, ESI and LSE. The latter two seem more likely. Note that all three have access to strong
heheFine you can live with it
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Very good observation I am really genuinly frustrated with that. Nothing frustrates me more than conspiracy theories(LOL I even get angry writing this). E.g The girlfriend of my flatmate printed something in my room and she told me that Adolf ****** was actually a woman. I asked her after source she said somewhere in the internet I told her that there are many sources also in the internet who say he was a man. She insisted that she was sure, I gave her the prints and left my own room. I was also very angry when she claimed that she has an IQ of 151
I related most to the IP trait actually being hurt but don't show it outwardly. I am also really not a fidget. The temparament I relate the least is clearly EP. But your right temparament description sucks. There's a normal distribution of Extraversion and Introversion and the descriptions describe clearly introverted and extroverted types (in a non socionics way) So most people can't really relate to it. Thanks for opening my eyes there.I relate to the EJ description only when I'm busy with something that either needs to be done or is captivating my attention. I imagine this would be when
Actually it's only the hard working part in most LSE descriptions that makes me doubt because I am a rather lazy student. But before going to university I worked and noone would say there that I am lazy. Actually since opening this thread I spent the most time with some Delta ST.
Due to @silkes post http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...038#post989038 #34 I read Filatovas description who really lacks steriotypes and I could sign almost everything she wrote about LSE but not really with SLI. Especially the Super-Ego-Block fits me really perfect.
I thinkI'd consider these three as your options: LSI, ESI and LSE. The latter two seem more likely. Note that all three have access to strong
Thanks a lot for your post!
I like Beskova's description. I should say, though, for clarity's sake, that I remember liking it.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I do, too. I've learned not to press too hard for more information when the act clearly irritates the person and causes nothing but conflict. Trading frustration for not caring.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I can identify somehow. In general I prefer description were one IE after the other is handled and where aren't to much to specific stuff like becoming the favorite of everyone etc.
One becomes softer with the age but that's something I still can't handle. Especially when it's directed towards me.I do, too. I've learned not to press too hard for more information when the act clearly irritates the person and causes nothing but conflict. Trading frustration for not caring.
@Narc I still don't think Se is valued but even if unsure it's very obvious that I don't value Ni
Does anyone have something against Normalizing LSE?
Yeah, I'm bad at it, too. It's just that with family members and colleagues it's sometimes easier (and more efficient) to just accept certain things and try to work around certain issues without causing conflict.
It might seem counterintuitive or contradicting, but I've always been confrontational and conflict-avoidant at the same time.
[Edit:] Over time you come to realize that any attempts to establish a clear, mud-free communication and mutual understanding with certain people is always going to be futile, at which point you decide it isn't worth the effort.
Last edited by Park; 12-22-2013 at 04:16 AM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Has anyone gotten to know you well enough to have a relevant opinion? Rhetorical question.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Static Visual Identification? Crikey.
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