LEGERDEMAIN - pppplease type me by asking me questions nad i make video

[lagerdemon]

Sounds like you were doing laundry in the background.

Yes.

Why do you not get along with your dad? Is it a long time thing, personality clash? Issues growing up?

We have differences in religious views. Due to his religious views just about everything I enjoy doing is a deadly sin(even though he does or has done just about all of those things). Also we had major problems until I was about 18. I won't go into it further, but ya, we had a lot of issues when I was young. As it stands now, we get along and I see him once every year or so. The huge gaps between visits helps keep conversations on a light track and it's easy to distract him from conversations in which a self-righteous lecture would form.

You work at a coffee shop? Is this what you want to be doing?

I no longer work at a coffee shop. I like working at coffee shops but it's not something one can make a living from, so no, I don't want to be a barista until I'm 50yo. If work is slow I'll pick up a second job(coffee shop, bar, etc). I'm a carpenter by trade and work is picking up. I have a semester of electives before I finish my associates degree, then I'll plant myself firmly into a sexy college and upgrade my degree to a BACH.

What do you want to be doing carreer wise?

A lot of things, which has always been my problem. I feel like I'm running out of time.

Where you ever in a long term relationship? How did you feel about her? What did you love about her? Why, do you think, it ended?

Yes, in one that I consider long-term. I felt comfortable with her. I loved her compassion and thoughtfulness, disliked her willful ignorance. It ended because she wanted to get married and have kids and I thought I was too young. She got married to and had kids shortly thereafter, then got a messy divorce.

Have you ever been in trouble with the law? In your videos you used derisive words to describe police, does your feelings come from a past encounter with them? What happened?

I dislike the police because of their immunity to responsibility. I'll get into more detail with this if necessary.

Why did you first look into socionics? What is interesting about this theory? Do you ever try to type people you meet IRL?

I took the MBTI im high school and have since been interested in typologies and other models(not just personality related).

Do you have friends that you have kept since childhood? How often do you visit them if you do?

Yes, and not often. I didn't like many of the people I knew from childhood. Most of the good ones moved far away, died or got married(kinda like dying).

What do you beleive your sociotype to be?

I don't believe in sociotype, but I find myself spread out between several types(if we're talking about descriptions) and I don't see myself favoring functions, rather favoring one over another when I see it as necessary("situation dictates" blah blah) So far I doubt the value of typology in the way it's used on typology forums.

What do you think about me?

undecided.

color.

[lagerdemon]

So socionics is to models of human psyche what flying spaghetti mo.ster is to religion. Got it.

[Beautiful sky]

yeah, no more LSE typing for you

SLI is closer

[Suz]

yeah, no more LSE typing for you

SLI is closer

Maritsa, I agree with you on a type, for once!

[lagerdemon]

oih, well, i h8 it when u poop on floor instead of litter box, or when u scrtach deh sofa, or when you sit on my face when i'm asleep just b/c ur hungry(how selfish is dat??) also when you beg for food, is so oooo annoying.

[InvisibleJim]

omg, this thread. My sides.

[lagerdemon]

Idk many ppl who lack fe or fi enough 2 be considered one or de oder, but o well. In my readin's I see fi is like internal values, in sum cases forced onto oders like ******, in some cases held inside secretely like strong, silent cowboy man from movies? n maybe fe is like "starfall i want 2 give u babies, ur perfect fur me" but could be more like, "omg, jim, ur sidehuurts lemme make it bedder wit my caring n such", idk if maybe got rong idea bout dis, plz help?

Also, I don't actually talk like this irl, it's just that I met a man once who wrote really good poetry and ever since then I've been obsessed: http://reallygoodpoetry.tumblr.com/p...fe-is-vry-pain

[Satan]

Idk many ppl who lack fe or fi enough 2 be considered one or de oder, but o well. In my readin's I see fi is like internal values, in sum cases forced onto oders like ******, in some cases held inside secretely like strong, silent cowboy man from movies? n maybe fe is like "starfall i want 2 give u babies, ur perfect fur me" but could be more like, "omg, jim, ur sidehuurts lemme make it bedder wit my caring n such", idk if maybe got rong idea bout dis, plz help?

Also, I don't actually talk like this irl, it's just that I met a man once who wrote really good poetry and ever since then I've been obsessed: http://reallygoodpoetry.tumblr.com/p...fe-is-vry-pain

I think you probably have some kind of mental deficit. Have you smoked pot since before your teenage years?

[BlackholeRoad]

Idk many ppl who lack fe or fi enough 2 be considered one or de oder, but o well. In my readin's I see fi is like internal values, in sum cases forced onto oders like ******, in some cases held inside secretely like strong, silent cowboy man from movies? n maybe fe is like "starfall i want 2 give u babies, ur perfect fur me" but could be more like, "omg, jim, ur sidehuurts lemme make it bedder wit my caring n such", idk if maybe got rong idea bout dis, plz help?

Also, I don't actually talk like this irl, it's just that I met a man once who wrote really good poetry and ever since then I've been obsessed: http://reallygoodpoetry.tumblr.com/p...fe-is-vry-pain

Bolg is vry impres, much lerning abot b man, will folowng

Also, is that guy doge of shibe's original owner?

[lagerdemon]

Bolg is vry impres, much lerning abot b man, will folowng

Also, is that guy doge of shibe's original owner?

Good question, I wish I knew answer.

[lagerdemon]

Jim wat makes ur side hurt? did u eat 2 much mexican food???

[InvisibleJim]

Jim wat makes ur side hurt? did u eat 2 much mexican food???

'Obv looks SLE'. LSI, *no explanation*

etc. Every thread just gets better and better c:

Oh and this chocolate im eating.

[Kim]

'Obv looks SLE'. LSI, *no explanation*

etc. Every thread just gets better and better c:

Oh and this chocolate im eating.

To quote leger's preferred poet, life is vry pain

[InvisibleJim]

To quote leger's preferred poet, life is vry pain

man is a hunk and pome legen.

[wacey]

Nice, I was just making guesses and I'm glad you corrected them.

Cool, not much I want to add.

(So you are not always being facetious at all times which is nice to see)

[blackburry]

Leger's straight up intro. ya'll crazy.

ISTx

[lagerdemon]

Me & leger may be dualz after all.


Let's have sex.

*takes off corset*
*bites lip sexily*

Leger's straight up intro. ya'll crazy.

ISTx

wats intro???

[lagerdemon]

OH, introvert, i thought it was some kinda gay slang, kewl. I wish it were dat simple.

[Suz]

OK well looks like the major opinions out there are:

SLE
LSI
SLI

Which is to be expected -- sometimes telling quasi's apart can be challengning from a distance. What is fairly clear is ST club, which would be beta/delta quadra. So at this point what needs to happen is Leger needs to figure out which quadra fits him best and break the tie for us. This doesn't mean which quadra you think has the most beautiful people (that would be beta obviously), but who you resonate with the most, which quadra values you relate to the most.

[lagerdemon]

OK well looks like the major opinions out there are:

SLE
LSI
SLI

Which is to be expected -- sometimes telling quasi's apart can be challengning from a distance. What is fairly clear is ST club, which would be beta/delta quadra. So at this point what needs to happen is Leger needs to figure out which quadra fits him best and break the tie for us. This doesn't mean which quadra you think has the most beautiful people (that would be beta obviously), but who you resonate with the most, which quadra values you relate to the most.

can we just do tritypes? Should I be deciding which one I like best based on some description or what? Descriptiosn are all lame and I agree with some parts of each description for all 16 types and disagree with other parts, so wat do i do???????????????? Idk, sometimes it feels like I'm all lost n shit, but then I remember god has a plan for all of us, even if plan seems real dumb.

[Suz]

can we just do tritypes? Should I be deciding which one I like best based on some description or what? Descriptiosn are all lame and I agree with some parts of each description for all 16 types and disagree with other parts, so wat do i do???????????????? Idk, sometimes it feels like I'm all lost n shit, but then I remember god has a plan for all of us, even if plan seems real dumb.

you're right the descriptions usually suck (best ones to refer to are the ones written by a person of the same type as the type you're reading about).

That's why i say try to figure out QUADRA. That will help you at least figure out if you're SLE/LSI or SLI. Try to get a gestalt sense, dont take everything literally. Also judge how well you fit in with people of the respective quadras on the forum. Who do you click with the best; where do you feel the most comfortable, the most welcomed.

[lagerdemon]

you're right the descriptions usually suck (best ones to refer to are the ones written by a person of the same type as the type you're reading about).

That's why i say try to figure out QUADRA. That will help you at least figure out if you're SLE/LSI or SLI. Try to get a gestalt sense, dont take everything literally. Also judge how well you fit in with people of the respective quadras on the forum. Who do you click with the best; where do you feel the most comfortable, the most welcomed.

I like ppl who aren't uptight and don't take stuff too seriously and don't have rigid views of world and get really aggressive and mean-spirited when challenged and don't take shit personally all the time, what types are those? It's a little too late for gestalt, I joined a socionics forum, lulz. neway.*deleted a few sentences about uselessness of intertype relationships when type is not known, but then I remembered algebra* Neway, trying to figure out quadras now, will report back later after things are done, have to do stuff first.

[blackburry]

I like ppl who aren't uptight and don't take stuff too seriously and don't have rigid views of world and get really aggressive and mean-spirited when challenged and don't take shit personally all the time, what types are those? It's a little too late for gestalt, I joined a socionics forum, lulz. neway.*deleted a few sentences about uselessness of intertype relationships when type is not known, but then I remembered algebra* Neway, trying to figure out quadras now, will report back later after things are done, have to do stuff first.

Oy. Now we've to rule out all of the quadras. Bc each is uptight about something, take something personal, mean spirited when challenged. Sorry bro.

[Kim]

I like ppl who aren't uptight and don't take stuff too seriously and don't have rigid views of world and get really aggressive and mean-spirited when challenged and don't take shit personally all the time, what types are those? It's a little too late for gestalt, I joined a socionics forum, lulz. neway.*deleted a few sentences about uselessness of intertype relationships when type is not known, but then I remembered algebra* Neway, trying to figure out quadras now, will report back later after things are done, have to do stuff first.

That would be Beta (rather than Delta).

Dude, I am working so hard on making you Starfall's dual, help me out here.

[Suz]

What is going on in this thread?



Is that clear just because he's self-typed as ST? What if he's wrong? I'm curious, has anyone ever considered EIE for him? He seems pretty dramatic, to say the least. And I've expressed before, I'm skeptical of his Ti.

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The answer is no, it's not just because he's self-typed as ST. I have a lot more critical thinking than that...cmon now...

THe reason why i think he is ST club is for a few reasons, some of which i'm able to verbalize:
--his interpretation of and answers to the questions were very direct and literal, to the point, without any sort of inclination towards a more intuitive/between the lines approach.
--he seems focused on the physical world around him, not really ideas or the existential realm or alternate reality.
--he just seems fairly devoid of emotional expression (and to be honest doesn't really recognize it either -- from InvisibleJim's failed attempt at sarcasm that went over Leger's head completely--which actually makes me think Fe-POLR for him)

but obviously, Leger shouldn't confine himself to the ST club -- it's just that i've sort of narrowed him down to that from what i've been able to gather, but obv i could be wrong.

[lagerdemon]

The answer is no, it's not just because he's self-typed as ST. I have a lot more critical thinking than that...cmon now...

THe reason why i think he is ST club is for a few reasons, some of which i'm able to verbalize:
--his interpretation of and answers to the questions were very direct and literal, to the point, without any sort of inclination towards a more intuitive/between the lines approach.
--he seems focused on the physical world around him, not really ideas or the existential realm or alternate reality.
--he just seems fairly devoid of emotional expression (and to be honest doesn't really recognize it either -- from InvisibleJim's failed attempt at sarcasm that went over Leger's head completely--which actually makes me think Fe-POLR for him)

but obviously, Leger shouldn't confine himself to the ST club -- it's just that i've sort of narrowed him down to that from what i've been able to gather, but obv i could be wrong.

lol. wow, it's like you actually live inside my head. Are you psychic or sumthin?

Dis is wut I think Leger should be doing wif his life:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0416f236d...pp3mo1_500.jpg


wah hooooooooooooooooo!!!

Been there, done that.

Leger, I am going to go with an SLE typing for you.

I was thinking after I posted earlier - the way in which you try to get others to laugh actually reminds me of the same style Jim Carrey uses. And he is commonly typed SLE.

I can see how others find you in the ST club. And quite frankly you don't seem firmly logical - I can't see you being LSI or LSE. That leaves two types, really - SLE & SLI, which seem to be, at a glance, what most people are typing you. I'm glad they see the Sensing side of you first, because that's what is most readily apparent.

The question is, are you exhibiting Se or Si? This seems to be where some people may be having disagreement. You seem to be responding to every person's post in a typical back-and-forth discussion, if not to just say you 'don't know', or maneuvering the topic into something that you know about. 1. The fact that you're responding to most everything seems much more Se than Si. 2. SLIs typically are so focused on relaxing, that they ignore a lot of people and nonsense. I'm having trouble picturing you as an SLI like Rob or Park, or other SLIs I know irl. 3. You seem to disregard the rules of grammar and capitalization - I'm sure Director Abbie would agree with me on this. You don't seem very Te-valuing.

You seem to be 'more willing to do crazy shit' lol, as a nice way of putting it, like I see from Se-leading Egos. You actually remind me of woof a bit in a way, as SEE. But your posts are more structured than the typical SEE. I can see the Ti in you finally - it was just hidden as Ti-creative. You use your logic loosely to serve your impulsive, fun-seeking needs, not an end in and of itself. But there's a desire in you, searching for structure, trying to piece out together a logical framework and understanding.

@Starfall - you both have my blessings of socionics duality. Now go forth and have Beta babies you lovebirds.

And Leger - one last note. As a warning - a lot of women on this forum find you attractive, congrats, but be careful that they don't type you as their dual just because they want you in the same quadra. 3 years ago, I've had an IEI type me as SLE and an EIE type me as LSI. Be careful what women type you.

So I'll go with SLE for now.

I do ignore the rules of grammar, captilizaton and spelling in informal environments. When writing a paper for classes or writing fiction I am totl *itler. i only wish 2 b as strng n brve as *itler sumdai. Idk y ne womin wood fine me attracve, I try so hrd 2 reple dem, wsh i was gay.

[blackburry]

Everyone likes you more when you're their dual.


Twisted fucks.

[lagerdemon]

Everyone likes you more when you're their dual.


Twisted fucks.

damn, that sucks. this is only forum in world where discrimination is encouraged ): wat about ghandi n mlk, n such?? it's almost as if they died

[nigh]

Now I vote LSI. It's just.. so much familiar LSI-ish feeeeelz alllll overrrrrrr ur beta sensing introoooooooooo

[SyrupDeGem]

Haha, typing threads can be hilarious.

Leger is introverted. I have never been privvy to seeing him be extroverted behaviourly in vent or tinychat, he takes excessive recharge time, all the clues are there. He's my dual, but I can share.

[wacey]

Independent. Proud, even haughty, needs a sensitive approach, praise and attention. Inclined towards skepticism. Poorly sees the future evolution of events. Concerned about making timely choices in life, yet feels dependent on the vicissitudes of fate.

Doesn't know how to express his feelings openly. Life's hardships make him resort to "black" humor

Shows a contrast in expression of his emotions: at times he is cool and self-absorbed, like "iceberg in the ocean", at other times – excited and energetic. Evaluates human relations by degree of emotional displays. Turbulent emotions for him are an indicator of instability and potentially poor relations. During a conflict does not get involved too deeply in the dispute, but if he feels that his values have been trespassed upon he responds harshly. Won't be frank with outsiders. Doesn't like it when someone tries to "peer into his soul" and penetrate into his inner feelings. He must be understood without words.

SLI likes it when his abilities and achievements are appreciated. If his achievements are not noticed, he may lose all desire to try, or even fall sick if his abilities are not needed or requested for a long time. Needs new, challenging situations and unusual problems that can distract him from the monotony of everyday life. If he feels uninterested in something, he will simply detach and go about his business. Needs to be inspired and encouraged to take up a task, otherwise he will demobilize and fall into inertia and melancholy. Without new and exciting goals, his mood drops. He responds well to a language of compliments and praises that promises timely success. His state is optimal when the success is just out of reach, yet nearby.

SLI's mood depends on how he is treated by others. He trusts only deep affections – steady feelings that have been tested by time. In dealing with others, he sets his own psychological distance and grows very anxious if someone transgresses it. Intolerant of intrusive and imposing people. Smoothness of relations to him is an indispensable condition for living a fulfilling life. Despite the scruples and distance in communication, he is quite tolerant of human weaknesses, gentle and forgiving of people.

Inclined to skepticism. Likes to analyze and ridicule. In public usually doesn't show his emotions and feelings, although he is very impressionable. Very dependent on his internal state and moods; stagnant and productive periods alternate in his life. Reserved, doesn't like excessive familiarity.

He is only effective in doing that which brings him satisfaction, due to which may make an impression of a lazy person

Does not like languid manner of speaking - instead prefers well-defined, clear, punctual self-expression.

Establishment of personal contact is characterized by well-wishing coldness. In conversation he is usually dispassionate, although on his face there might be a subtle smile of politeness.

At such moments he needs well-wishing compassion, active questioning, optimistic and inspiring advice such as: "Why are you feeling down? Really, nothing bad has happened, and everything will be fine tomorrow!" And although he does not attach much importance to this, he is in need of composite information about other people, their potential and the relationships between them. If you communicate with him on a friendly and personal basis, frequently compliment to his abilities, provide him with the opportunity to work following his own methods, your success in interacting with him is guaranteed.

Since displaying emotional nuances is hard for you, you prefer to talk in a joking manner to sentimentality, due to this you can sometimes be misunderstood. Failures you prefer to endure in silence and solitude. To avoid any misunderstanding of situations, try to trust your partner and talk to him in a serious tone.

You may be recommended to travel more often, seek changes even in details of habitual way of life.

GABIN is reserved (because he is easily wounded), and does not like to put his feelings on display for strangers. Fact is that he is not so confident in himself, as it may seem. Learn to give praise and support to your partner, then he will more easily manage his life, and will feel somewhat better about himself

Just a guess.

[lagerdemon]

I thought SLI, but the video seems SLE ...I don't know. Maybe every forum needs an untypable caste...

Everyone is typable if type is just a generalization of a group of people, I personally don't think any one type suits me better than another, but my typology forum persona has been recorded in my posts, tinychat and shoutbox communications. I'd like to reiterrate like 17 times that you all are typing my typology persona, not me. I am not my posts on the internet, and certainly not asinine banter. or am i?????

no i think it's just that we can only go so far in typing someone with limited info, before the individual must figure one which one he is, himself.

fwiw, i didn't find anything that went against SLI in the video (though i know some ppl disagree with me). in fact, i didn't see any signs of Fe-HA which is usually a big clue i use in typing someone SLE/ILE..how that manifests to me is ridiculous/lame ways they try to act the clown to get laughs and if they dont get the laughs, they get all butthurt.

but again, the video is only one snippet of legerdemain's being, so hard to judge conclusively.

I would post more videos if I thought it would help, but most of my videos are self-shot and involve me sitting alone someplace and staring at my webcam or on other people's phones and mostly nude, so I doubt it'd be appropriate. ): ridiculous/lame like eating raw fish and licking someone's forehead? JUST CURIOUS.

What is going on in this thread?

Is that clear just because he's self-typed as ST? What if he's wrong? I'm curious, has anyone ever considered EIE for him? He seems pretty dramatic, to say the least. And I've expressed before, I'm skeptical of his Ti.

He makes me think of a weird mix between Jadae & Absurd. Beta NF & Delta ST, which leaves me a bit confused about his type.

I can't really commit to Beta ST for him either. LSIs don't seem as 'ACTIVE' as him - look at someone like squark. And Leger has responded to my posts before in generalizations, in a way that made me doubt that he was a Sensor. And SLEs generally seem more composed than him too - not going for a hyuk hyuk every 2 seconds.

I don't recall responding to your posts in generalizations only. I've used generalizations....just like everyone else on this forum, but I prefer the concrete and specific to generalizations in conversations about concrete and specific topics.

Haha, typing threads can be hilarious.

Leger is introverted. I have never been privvy to seeing him be extroverted behaviourly in vent or tinychat, he takes excessive recharge time, all the clues are there. He's my dual, but I can share.

Idk.

[Kim]

@Legerdemain

Say you hang out with people you are very comfortable with. Does socializing with them energize you or drain you? It is understood that you enjoy the time spent with these people, but what does it do to your energy level?

Would you prefer emo DEEP poetresses or fluttery chattery airheads for a life partner?

[lagerdemon]

@Legerdemain

Say you hang out with people you are very comfortable with. Does socializing with them energize you or drain you? It is understood that you enjoy the time spent with these people, but what does it do to your energy level?

Would you prefer emo DEEP poetresses or fluttery chattery airheads for a life partner?

1) There aren't many of those left. B) Energized physically and psychically at first. My physical stamina gives out before my psychic stamina. I think, depending on what kind of hanging out it is. I could drink beer and chat with people all night about many different topics, less true when physical activity is required. I don't talk much when surfing with other people, for example. When I have I tend to get blind-sided by massive waves mid-sentence ):

Damn are those my only choices? I've probably been with more of the latter type. (btw I don't think those choices are mutually exclusive, and I hate you for that) I don't know which I would prefer. I don't think I can answer this question. I like intelligence if it's this kind: "A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do."

[Kim]

Damn are those my only choices? I've probably been with more of the latter type. (btw I don't think those choices are mutually exclusive, and I hate you for that) I don't know which I would prefer. I don't think I can answer this question. I like intelligence if it's this kind: "A very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings—"catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do."

They are not your only choices, just your choices in terms of comfort level between SLI and SLE.

If you imagine yourself living with your life partner, are you looking for a very calm and drama-free relationship or do you like to be with someone who likes a bit of drama, push/pull tension, hate sex, that sort of thing?

[Suz]

They are not your only choices, just your choices in terms of comfort level between SLI and SLE.

If you imagine yourself living with your life partner, are you looking for a very calm and drama-free relationship or do you like to be with someone who likes a bit of drama, push/pull tension, hate sex, that sort of thing?

oh beta NFs hate sex? i didn't realize that...

[lagerdemon]

If you imagine yourself living with your life partner, are you looking for a very calm and drama-free relationship or do you like to be with someone who likes a bit of drama, push/pull tension, hate sex, that sort of thing?

Assuming I'm with a "life"(already halfway through) partner. I'd prefer a no-to-low-drama relationship with some push/pull and hate sex(but not real hate) but not too much too often because then I'll get desensitized and stop caring.

[Kim]

Assuming I'm with a "life"(already halfway through) partner. I'd prefer a no-to-low-drama relationship with some push/pull and hate sex(but not real hate) but not too much too often because then I'll get desensitized and stop caring.

My best guess then is SLI after all.

[Kim]

OH COME ON LOL! Kim!!!!

What? Those are perfectly fine descriptions of IEI and IEE....

[SyrupDeGem]

What? Those are perfectly fine descriptions of IEI and IEE....

I'm only a moron an airhead some of the time, the rest I am sparticus genuis.