Philosophers by Quadra
@Ath might like this and/or have something to contribute.
and i'm sure @Ashton could make a list even though he probably might not feel like it.
alpha
immanuel kant
epicurus
Karl Marx
beta
friedrich nietzsche
ayn rand
gamma
hannah arendt
Diogenes of Sinope
delta
marcus aurelius
Pyotr Kropotkin
spinoza
Can Alpha take Epicurus too? He seemed chill.
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Diogenes of Sinope – Gamma?
Pyotr Kropotkin – Delta
Karl Marx - Alpha?
also: *Immanuel
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Delta: Spinoza, Hugo Grotius(maybe gamma)
Ayn Rand is as much a philosopher as socionics is a science
The only reason to be against medicaire is that Rand would have died earlier without it.
I think Spinoza is probably alpha.Originally Posted by Daft21
Foucault - Beta
Descartes - Alpha
Parmenides - Alpha
Democritus - Alpha
Plato - Beta
Zeno of Elea - Alpha
Schrodinger - Alpha
Popper - Gamma
Aristotle - Gamma
Archimedes - Alpha
Confucius - Gamma
Zhuang-Zi - Alpha or Delta
MoZi - Beta
Zeno of Citium - Delta
Han Fei - Beta
Hegel - Beta
Zizek - Beta
Schopenhauer - Gamma
Kierkegaard - Beta
Wittgenstein - Alpha
Thomas Paine - Alpha
Adam Smith - Alpha or Gamma
Hume - Alpha or Gamma
A J Ayer - Beta or Alpha
G E Moore - Alpha
John Stuart Mill - Delta
John Dewey - Delta
Hilary Putnam - Delta
Dennett - Alpha
Searle - Delta
He was so far ahead with his philosophy that it was absolutly inapplicable and he was the epitome of a humanitarian what makes me think he's Delta NF.
On which alpha type did you think NT or SF?
some others
Rousseau->IEI or EIE
Kant ->LII maybe even LSI?For sure Ti-Base
His entire philosophy is based in power(in the more naturalistic sense).
I wouldn't call him humanitarian as he isn't really concerned with humanity as much as nature and how humanity can grasp it.
Ethics is essentially a book which is a scathing criticism of the moral and ethics of his time, he did not commit many bad things in life but it was never a major concern of his.
His personal ethical/moral philosophy was very succinct and simple and non-idealistic.
I think he's LII.
This works starts also this way...
It's a fairly scathing critique on humanitarian ideals as he sees most of social life as vain and futile.
Also stuff like this...
He could really be LII
Spinoza was primary a naturalist but when you compare his philosophy with Hobbes or Puffendorf the human factor plays a bigger role (what doesn't make him an ethical) but what is more remarkebale in comparison to Hobbes or Puffendorfis that his philosophy was way less influenced by the Thirty-Years War. What is probably a sign for intuition over sensing.
@anyone what is rawls type?
Buddha - Delta
Ghandi - Beta
Plato - Beta
Confucious - Serious Quadras, Lean Gamma
Lao Tzu - Merry Quadras, Lean Beta NF
Jesus - EIE
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
oh oh oh that one guy whose type I fucked up on royally, Descartes? He's alpha. God that was a derp on my part lol
Easy Day
****** - Beta Quadra.
Hidden Agenda
montaigne - delta
diogene - alpha or delta
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
I always thought he is SLI because of the story with Alexander the Great(could also be SEI though but i think he's more delta than alpha)
Epictetus - Delta
Some of you need to stop posting in this topic. It's embarrassing me.
I think Heidegger is likely ILI. He and Arendt couldn't seem to stay away from one another despite the fact that he was a Nazi and she was a Jew.
I like how Ashton typed (most) of the worst philosophers INTj. haha
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Yes. I also like Philosophical Investigations. Wittgenstein got smart later in life. I don't know why people are so fixated on the Tractatus.
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Does Marcus Aurelius count as a philosopher? Wikipedia says yes. :3 Where does he go?
edit- I see @lungs says delta!
Yes. Delta makes sense.
I really liked Marcus Aurelius when I was a kid. He let me imagine that "the man" could be a decent human.
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Absurd Absurdicus - Delta.
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People who think their own thinking equals philosophy should try to read a few of the greats in the original language. I'm sick of people using "philosophy" as a synonym for vision, thought, strategy and other mental constructs.
Granted, philosophy itself has issues defining itself, and it might be a matter of scale/depth, but john doe's "philosophising about soccer" is an entirely different beast than let's take the forementioned Logischer Utersuchungen or Also sprach Zarathustra (or any of the other books from the "canon" of philosophy).
Also, equating it to literature is akin to equating literature to emails (yeah, both contain words) or a van gogh to painting by numbers (both use paint).
The interwebs have made people stupid
//rant
I am by no means a philosopher and I can read stuff in five languages. Nice try though.
I did not suggest that being able to read multiple languages made you a philosopher, I stated my believe that people speak too easily about philosophy without actually having enough experience to do so. Hence the reading philosophy. The original languages part was snobish of me, since I've not been able to read the french ones in the native language, instead resorting to english translations.
It's pretty cool however to understand 5 languages, props!
Neither did I and my second post in this thread says all.
Well, every one can talk about philosophy actually. It's not hard. That they know what they're talking about is another thing...I stated my believe that people speak too easily about philosophy without actually having enough experience to do so.
Spoken French makes my tongue bleed. Anyway, you could have it easier living in Belgium, it's closer to France and they speak funneh Dutch there.The original languages part was snobish of me, since I've not been able to read the french ones in the native language, instead resorting to english translations.
True that, to the above
Yeah, native dutch sucks, there is hardly any notable dutch philosopher (spinoza, but he wrote in latin).
Belgium is not a country though, its a genocide waiting to happen. They do speak dutch excellently though, they beat us at every annual language match. Also, their french is just as funny as their dutch, frankly, it should be split into provinces, one dutch, one french.
point taken...People who think their own thinking equals philosophy should try to read a few of the greats in the original language. I'm sick of people using "philosophy" as a synonym for vision, thought, strategy and other mental constructs.
Granted, philosophy itself has issues defining itself, and it might be a matter of scale/depth, but john doe's "philosophising about soccer" is an entirely different beast than let's take the forementioned Logischer Utersuchungen or Also sprach Zarathustra (or any of the other books from the "canon" of philosophy).
Also, equating it to literature is akin to equating literature to emails (yeah, both contain words) or a van gogh to painting by numbers (both use paint).
The interwebs have made people stupid
//rant
i mean of course i oversimplified the analogy but my point was that the practical utility of a college major in philosophy is not much different from a college major in literature. I personally dont see the appeal of dwelling on other peoples' thoughts/writings, but sure, I concede that some thinkers' ideas have shaped the world into what it is today...
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I was a philosophy major, and the purpose of a philosophy major isn't so much to learn what others have thought before you (though that's certainly an essential part of it of course because if you don't know what came before you you'll never fully understand what'd it mean to think originally.. and most people don't think original things), but to yourself know how to thinking logically, to apply logic to thought, and to understand what it means to create novel concepts (images of thought) applicable to the world around you. But at the undergraduate level though you are correct, your primary focus is on other people's thoughts/writing. Most people don't get into original thinking until graduate/phd level.
Thanks for clarifying!
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Sure, it's not really an issue for humankind, it IS somewhat of a personal issue for me though
Where is Rorty?
Most delicious stuff is in Delta, Scapegrace...
Kim, turn around and quietly step away...
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Aw Kim, i would think you would feel comfortable enough with me to share what's on your mind! it's ok to correct my misconceptions, i wont be upset or take offense, in fact i take offense if you dont!
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harry potter changed my life
Well, you are basically saying that there is no value in studying literature, which is what I happen to be teaching. So naturally I am a bit taken aback.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Kant was Beta (LSI)
Epicurus was Delta (IEE)
The others seem right.
Whoa, I don't even know some of those. But I see some errors:
Karl Marx was Ne-ILE
Erwin Schröedinger was Ne-IEE
Immanuel Kant was Ti-LSI
Friedrich Nietzsche was Ni-EIE
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People often mistakes famous IEEs for other types. Can you give me a list of IEE philosophers?
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