Read that old thread. I dunno your typing lungs *throws up hands* i dunno!!
Read that old thread. I dunno your typing lungs *throws up hands* i dunno!!
Originally Posted by siuntal
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol, i haven't gone back and read it because its too awkward reading shit i wrote three years ago
but i feel better about taking opinions from people that ive talked to on a regular basis in chat or have seen me on cam or irl over a period of time. than from information from when i was new to a personality forum and putting on my friendly stranger face and overidentifying with a type.
I see ur sei now.
That means you're SEI as well, just like jennifer. Not to mention dolphin.
Go for it.
Fi-ESI imo.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
You better type more words before she comes down on you with her angry whip
Absurd: You Ti dominants sure say things I don't really know where to put.
labtard: fml
Absurd: Hah.
Lol, if she wants to know why, she can just ask. Otherwise, I see no need.You better type more words before she comes down on you with her angry whip
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Refer to a couple of posts in "your tying of forum members" thread for explanation of differences between lungs and myself. LAST PAGE.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Better change your typing of me then of being an EII in the spreadsheet as Lungs is not the same type as myself.
Did you watch the video she posted some time back? From memory it was mostly about holding up objects to show and talk about.
Also when I have interacted with Lungs she seems direct and kind of pushy to me in writing style which on the web comes across as an interaction style that I don't much like dealing with and don't do myself. Maybe a better way to describe this is that it seems like she wants to dig things out of me in interactions or get me to open up which has made me suspect ESE as isn't this what the dual type the LII appreciates at times?
Last edited by Hays; 04-19-2013 at 04:50 AM.
"Identicals" aren't going to be identical. Other EIIs are not going to be all that similar to yourself (and same comment goes to Maritsa). Consider, for one, that your subtype, enneagram, and stackigns are very different from lungs' and every other EII on this forum. This has a significant influence on how your personality will come through, arguably more so than socionics, not to mention all the differences in your backgrounds, how you were brought up, your age, etc. So how can you consider such comparison to be valid?
Holding up objects isn't a sign of Se - anyone with functional motor skills can do it. Take a look at the video of this girl who types herself as Fi-Ne. Notice how she's actively interacting with all the objects in her vicinity, just like lungs did it in her video, how she is just as scattered and cannot easily focus. This is what a "contact" creative subtype of EII is like - it needs a lot of interaction, a lot of give-and-take with their environment, hence why it has been dubbed "contact". Maritsa and you are both "inert" Fi-subtypes, and your behavior is going to be very different from the hyperactive "contact" Ne-subs like lungs and the girl in this video.
As for "picking up objects" when things come to doing something meaningful with them, lungs seems to be lost and asks for advice and instructions. Now I was raised by SFs, so I have pretty good idea of how they are like. The kind of practical problems that lungs seem to struggle with and asks for advice on, like how to wash her cat, they manage to resolve quite easily. Things like that make disbelieve any sensing type suggestions for her, but IEE is a valid possibility seeing how she's got a good dose of irrationality.
Over the internet, in "safe" virtual environment, of course anyone can act pushy. If you read the thread that I linked about her old typing, lungs admits there that she is using the internet as an outlet from being unable to do the same things in real life.
By the way, this sort of "playful youngster"-"mature responsible adult" switch she describes of herself is very common among deltas & alphas.the bold and daring stuff, haha...well, to be honest part of the reason i'm attracted to the forum is because it's sort of a psychological outlet for me in a specific way. i had my son while i was still in high school. i was never a fun-loving young adult and i've never really had friends of that demographic. and this forum is a safe place for me to act like a Fun-Loving Young Adult without serious repurcussions, heh. but then there's that part of me that still is aware of the fact that i'm a mother and Mature, Responsible Grown Up and that back-and-forth within myself probably comes out in the way i interact.
This is why typing over the internet is so problematic. People like lungs act differently here than they do in real life, in a way using the safe virtual environment to do and say things they wouldn't dare or permit themselves to do in the real world, which of course will be misleading in their typings. What may appear as aggressiveness and pushy bluntness over the internet may be nothing more than pent-up exasperation and acting out of a rather meek individual.
May be she's just an EIE who wants to "devour your soul" lol. In any case, the way she goes "fishing" for information, especially of psychological nature, in a very vague and indirect manner is another thing that makes NF typing be more befitting.
except Lungs is a negativist type.
your post is so utterly frustrating. You don't seem to listen; pls read the few posts in my thread "your typing of forum members" where LUNGs clearly demonstrates her Se.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I know, someone needs to watch you in real life.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
And, I type you ESI
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@siuntal
Well written response, you of course make some valid points though at this stage my mind remains unconvinced.
You did however provide me with a great video of a type the same as my oldest daughter who self types as IEE:
Attachment 1916
I agree with Maritsa. Siuntal is retard, EII-Ne typing is so off
Lungs is EII-Fi
Oh my lord.
Please refer to this thread:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-forum-members
Please read the last couple of pages where I explain to another forum member why Lungs is ESI and I'm EII.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
That's very nice of you to say that.
don't engage siuntal. seeing her make false inference after false inference about my "real self" and knowing she's immune to being corrected about it is just irritating. thats why i've just been letting her run her course. she won't change her mind. and eii really isn't a bad typing for someone who only knows me from the forum, especially if they focus especially on my old posts when i overidentified as one.
@Shayley i don't remember ever interacting with you. you seem like a really nice person and i'm sorry if i made you uncomfortable.
Who types you SEI not from the forum, then? No one?
@InvisibleJim you are so fickle
Yes
Okay, I will 'give it time'. What after? No one from not the forum is going to type you SEI and you're going to declare here on the forum, no one did and that I was wrong? Sounds a bit not sound.
Nope.
Put it on your chicken breasts, I'll eat it then.
I could ask the same question.
No it is then.
Anyway, wonder though how many not over-identifying with some type scenarios is enough to not identify with a type at all/identify with a type? So far you're not identifying with a certain type to identify with another. Isn't that "over-identification" as well? I'm at loss here, seriously
To be honest lungs I see the Ne. my vote is for ILE.
Fi PoLr.
You can cease blaming it on ever-identification. That sounds as if you're not the Sociotype you are but have chosen it to represent you in dealing with broader public. For example, you were born in the U.S., live and reside there, which means you're American but you do not identify with culture, customs, language and so on, and chose Africa to represent you after finding(?) culture, etc., to your liking. Looks as if you're African now - that's quite the emotional laden change.
I'm not really sure here though, you could reference to identification in terms of psychology, which is, supposedly, unconscious. Problem is, you do it consciously.
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