Getting out of the Ne PoLR rut

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How does this play out in the long run? What must the LSI do in order to stay under the SLE's radar? Assuming that the boss is SLE and the subordinate LSI.


I've been thinking about this, and apologizing in a laughing tone won't work- it's hard enough to get a laugh out of me on a typical day. Apologizing to the SLE has to be done very carefully too - no chinks in the armor (minor, one-off ones are still acceptable) or else.


As I am for your pitiable Fi PoLR. I hope it didn't ruin too many of your relationships.

No one escapes the SLE's radar, they are equaly testy and suspicious of everyone; that is associated with the Se valuing function; look it up in Jung's book; something to do with paranoia; LSE are also paranoid for different reasons, probably that they are not liked and going to be accepted. To stay under the radar is to do the job and be honest about the mistakes you made. If you're not the type to laugh it off, just say it in a fast tone, something that does not draw further emphasis on the issue; and SLE want to help; they like subservience and to feel like they are in control. Give them that by going to them and asking if things that you are doing is ok and say "Ok I just wanted to check with you and make sure that's fine."

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You make fine observations.


Again, this has to be done very carefully - my SLE boss blows up if you were to ask him a question that isn't well thought through which may imply your incompetence in an area where you should have known better.

Sometimes, I wonder if he intentionally gives impossible tasks in order to watch them fall into a mess so that he can be the hero saving the world.

wow you're really dealing with something strange here; most Se, base being experience seekers, just want to be the one in charge, liked, put on a pedestal, revert to light hearted, nonchalant sense of humor. I suppose it's possible to get a really stick in the butt SLE who isn't about the surface of things as he likes them, who is so domineering that they feel they must be in other's face, but it usually has not been my experience; maybe it's the work that they are doing; does this person own the company or do they have a supervisor as well?


The world's hard line and cruel, tyrannic, bosses tend to be the Te bases ENTj and ESTj

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wow you're really dealing with something strange here; most Se, base being experience seekers, just want to be the one in charge, liked, put on a pedestal, revert to light hearted, nonchalant sense of humor. I suppose it's possible to get a really stick in the butt SLE who isn't about the surface of things as he likes them, who is so domineering that they feel they must be in other's face, but it usually has not been my experience; maybe it's the work that they are doing; does this person own the company or do they have a supervisor as well?


The world's hard line and cruel, tyrannic, bosses tend to be the Te bases ENTj and ESTj

I actually agree with this, but then it's always possible someone can be SLE and behave in some sort of other way or w/e.

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How so?

Lack of empathy for others creates a type that only focuses on the goal/the objective and instead represses the human element to such a degree that they don't see the nature of a human, can't sense the weakness, frailty, the vulnerability, the softness of individual human essence. They don't care how you feel, what you feel, in fact, when you feel, they don't see it, when you cry, they don't see that, they just see the immediate objective which is the job at hand; you can stop an SLE and cry and they will feel bad for you, you can cry in front of an LSE and they'll just tell you to leave.

An LSE who gives up the control of the dictatorship like, un-empathetic like element will listen to me and will not cross certain lines of interaction between themselves and others; I'm there to say, "enough" you're hurting someone, you need to please stop. An immature LSE is one who will ride their horse over people, or the person, whoever they don't care about. Even me. I've had my share of the nastiest, meanest LSE God ever made; I have hope though that one day someone will be mature enough.