Originally Posted by
Lady Lotus
Avril is notoriously a self-loathing emo wreck, to the point of it being the downfall of her career.
You don't value healthiness as much as being interesting, IIRC, so it's no wonder if you don't see the red flags in her music that suggest she's irrational.
Well, she does seem unhealthy. I have a (male) cousin she reminds me a lot of. I just don't think healthiness = rationality. What type do you think she is?
Regarding emo stuff, women are usually more expressive than men regardless of type. My guess is that a woman is necessarily more "emotional" than a man of the same type internally. You just see more of it, which is why there's a bias toward typing women as F and men as T. But she really doesn't look like an F type to me. I don't know much about her aside from VI which is hard to explain, but the way she looks at people is not the way F types look at people. IMO. And if what you say about her being self-loathing and spiraling downward is true, I'd think that would also support T > F. F types have greater ability to handle their feelings; T types can't control them so well. The main exception I can think of is when drugs/other addictions are involved.
Rational types I also think can be more destructive, at least in the long term. Irrational functions seem to be less conscious, so irrationals are better at quickly adapting to different situations at the expense of less focus. Rational types have to make what they do accord with a relatively much more conscious understanding of things, which allows more focus even when parts of them are screaming that something is a bad decision, while irrationals' trouble is more from slipping into bad habits than intentionally setting their minds at something destructive. So you have stereotypes of SEEs being con artists and SLEs committing crimes and whatnot, but you're more likely to get really horrific stories about an EIE. Obviously this is a big generalization. And again drugs change things. But I don't think "self-loathing emo wreck" points necessarily at irrationality.
Anyway, what I'm saying is that she looks like a rational T + Se-ego (I'd guess that one's obvious?) so that should only leave LSI.
Edit:
Emotional obliviousness equates to being more controlled by your emotions, thus being more irrational. People who are highly attuned to what they feel have the capacity to regulate their emotions better. Keyword is capacity
Ok, I didn't see this. Just to be clear, are we on the same page about what "rationality" means? I don't know that being N or S base makes you more "controlled by" your emotions than T or F bases. I agree F bases can regulate their emotions better than other types, but I don't know that F-creatives are worse at it than T-base are.