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    Foki

    Her boyfriend 1:21 LSE? o.o

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    Foki - S type is more possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Foki - S type is more possible
    Shes the same type as Mira but Mira is probably SEI after further inspection. I relate to her so much and she's not like Nazanin boniadi and other IEIs posted + she's dating an ILE and they're very happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    stop spamming this thread
    I don't as spam is commercial advertising. If you meant flood, - it's not such too, as my messages are in borders of the theme. Unlike your senseless message above.

    You're not even giving explanations as to why these women are "IEI".
    It's not necessary for this information to be useful. If someone doubts, he may type them himself by data existing in Internet, like I did. As I said befor, any other typer has no significantly higher real match with your opinion.
    While all today typing explanations are doubtfull speculations and demagogy, as have no objective experimental basis and use diverse data. So such useless explanations would be close to flood, which you say don't want.

    I almost feel like you're just pulling these types out your ass.
    Unlike you, I think by other way.

    If you don't agree with correct examples of the type which you (very probably) mistakenly fantasy as own, the only useful you may do - study the typology and begin thinking by more usual parts. Your hysterical lie change nothing. As I need to repeat almost same on your hysterics (even in this thread), the next time you'll feel discomfort (in place usual for your thinking processes) induced by disagreement with my typings, I recommend you to reread our previous discussion. There is not sense to show your inadequacy again and again.

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    Sol's greatest IEI hits and misses.

    I don't watch youtube enough to know why most of these people are considered famous and I don't speak Russian so I don't bother to watch those. I did like the Eva Green discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Lady Gaga - no, EII is lol
    Ariana Grande - mb
    Selena Gomez - ESFP(?)
    Lady Gaga as EII?

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    Alison Sudol - IEI so/sx


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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    Alison Sudol - IEI so/sx

    *PUKE*

    Does she have to be? There's something so overbearingly twee about her persona... it doesn't come off as genuine. She reminds me more of SEI-Si. I dunno. Or not.


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    Lol at what has become of this thread.

    I used to date a IEi girl whos now a quasi reknown poet, does that make her famous?
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    *PUKE*

    Does she have to be? There's something so overbearingly twee about her persona... it doesn't come off as genuine. She reminds me more of SEI-Si. I dunno. Or not.
    i think that's due to enneagram type. she could be e9? something else? SEI is also a possibility, but she seems intuitive to me. (and she reminds me of other IEIs like natalie imbruglia and lotte verbeek)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    i think that's due to enneagram type. she could be e9? something else? SEI is also a possibility, but she seems intuitive to me. (and she reminds me of other IEIs like natalie imbruglia and lotte verbeek)
    yeah she is likely a social 9 ... she reminds me of nash leigh in her presentation but still there are striking notable differences from SEI 9s

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    Talulah Riley - IEI-Fe 9w8 (sp/sx?) English actress and model, was in a relationship with Elon Musk (LSI) for ~8 years





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    Not many would probably agree, but I think Taylor Swift is IEI. At least very much an E4. She is actually kind of weird and awkward in interviews and such.

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    Paula Jones looks like a stereotypical IEI-Fe @3:10




    Lauren Rose - another IEI-Fe



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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    *PUKE*

    Does she have to be? There's something so overbearingly twee about her persona... it doesn't come off as genuine. She reminds me more of SEI-Si. I dunno. Or not.
    Ommmmggg she talks way too slowly! She could be IEI but I hate when people talk like that

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    When I saw Paula Jones, she immediately reminded me of Kate Bush...

    Oh and about Taylor Swift's awkwardness.... here's a good example:



    At 00:30 mark, she's like, "What...?" like she was completely unfocused. That's the kind of detached awkwardness that I would have... (which could be kind of rude actually)

    She's also pretty hesitant to say something, which is fairly typical of IEIs I think.

    Maybe the guy on right is SEE, the guy on left (John Cleese) is LSI. John Cleese seems to be enjoying the Fe atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Kate Bush (Fe subtype?)

    Maybe...?


    This video really makes me think IEI or EIE and I think Emily Bronte the writer of Wuthering Heights is also IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    idk, something about Taylor Swift just comes off as rational to me (I'm thinking xxFj).
    Well I think the only other type that I would consider is EIE... or some other Fe type. The reason is because in her music, they usually show some extreme emotions like happiness (euphoria), anger (resentment) and sadness (dejection) which are typical of Fe. I would think Beta NF.

    She is pretty much ALWAYS singing about love... which seems appropriate for the IEI - "The romantic" title, but that could just be because she's a woman and that's her expected role.

    So she could be EIE, but I don't really see Gamma... And I just don't get the impression that she's this typical tough EJ type, she's more frail. She's also a bit more self-absorbed than the average EIE and mostly sings about herself from her own POV, but that could be an E4 thing.

    I think she was a bit more typical dreamy IEI-ish, full of vibrant positivity (Positivist) in her earlier songs, like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearless
    'Cause I don't know how it gets better than this
    You take my hand and drag me head first
    And I don't know why but with you I'd dance in a storm in my best dress

    Well, you stood there with me in the doorway
    My hands shake
    I'm not usually this way
    But you pull me in and I'm a little more brave
    It's the first kiss,
    It's flawless,
    Really something,
    It's fearless.
    "Fearless" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSjNWnzpjg

    Then she actually experienced love and turned out that it sucks, and it's fully of tragedy (she had to make it tragic) so she turned more Victim-y:

    Quote Originally Posted by White Horses
    You had to fight to have the upper hand
    I had so many dreams
    About you and me
    Happy endings
    Now I know

    I'm not a princess, this ain't a fairy tale
    I'm not the one you'll sweep off her feet,
    Lead her up the stairwell
    This ain't Hollywood, this is a small town,
    I was a dreamer before you went and let me down
    Now it's too late for you
    And your white horse, to come around
    "White Horses" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Xr-JFLxik

    And this song is very Beta, actually:

    Quote Originally Posted by Change
    You know it's all the same, another time and place
    Repeating history and you're getting sick of it
    But I believe in whatever you do
    And I'll do anything to see it through

    So we've been outnumbered
    Raided and now cornered
    It's hard to fight when the fight ain't fair
    We're getting stronger now
    Find things they never found
    They might be bigger
    But we're faster and never scared
    You can walk away, say we don't need this
    But there's something in your eyes
    Says we can beat this

    Tonight we'll stand, get off our knees
    Fight for what we've worked for all these years
    And the battle was long, it's the fight of our lives
    But we'll stand up champions tonight

    It was the night things changed
    Can you see it now?
    These walls that they put up to hold us back fell down
    It's a revolution, throw your hands up
    'Cause we never gave in
    And we'll sing hallelujah, we sang hallelujah
    Hallelujah
    "Change" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1jYllE0T-k

    Seems Ni - finding the right moment to act, and seeking Se. Maybe it actually sounds slightly EIE.

    She comes off like too much of a perfectionist. It's the same perfectionist impression that I get from Ivanka Trump.
    Well I would think Gamma for Ivanka, because she has that "Women Who Work" thing and apparently for Gamma, working and professionalism is really important, according to Stratiyevskaya's description of Gammas.
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    Actually, I think Ivanka Trump could be an IEI, or some Ni type.

    Here's a pertinent interview:



    What is your greatest strength?

    "I think I have a pretty specific vision in terms of design... envisioning a project and what has potential.

    I think I am sincere... I think I am loyal and I think I'm a really good best friend."

    How do you deal with regret?

    "I tend to focus towards the future, and ensure that regrets that I've had in the past influence me so that they don't happen again." (Very Ni)

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    Kalel Kitten/Cullen. She describes herself as a "perfectionist", and she's into design and home decorating and things, so I don't think that IEIs aren't necessarily into these things:




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    Ellie Goulding kind of reminds me of Delta Goodrem. I kind of don't think that she's IEE/ENFp, but maybe she is... (this is not an opinion on Ellie Goulding).



    I haven't read the Shock Doctrine yet... is it any good? I guess some IEIs aren't interested in politics, but I like politics...

    I just don't know any cool Betas right now.

    @MaviTilki Are you a Dutch by any chance...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    When I saw Paula Jones, she immediately reminded me of Kate Bush...

    Oh and about Taylor Swift's awkwardness.... here's a good example:



    At 00:30 mark, she's like, "What...?" like she was completely unfocused. That's the kind of detached awkwardness that I would have... (which could be kind of rude actually)

    She's also pretty hesitant to say something, which is fairly typical of IEIs I think.

    Maybe the guy on right is SEE, the guy on left (John Cleese) is LSI. John Cleese seems to be enjoying the Fe atmosphere.
    Guy with the orange socks is ESFj.

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    Ellen Foley, kind of an obscure-ish singer but with a fantastic voice, kind of like Lady Gaga:









    Could also be an EIE actually, but I think she looks more like an IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaviTilki View Post


    Amelie Poulain (fictional character, though I believe Audrey Tautou might be an IEI as well.. actors often play roles similar to their real self):

    This one seems SEI somehow...

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    I think these lyrics are kind of Ni/IEI... idk:

    "Predictable"

    You're just so predictable
    In every way
    I want you to know I know your game
    It's so unbelievable
    how you never change
    you won't get away
    with loving me
    you're just so predictable
    "Believe Again"

    Have you ever stared into the rain
    Thought the clouds would never disappear
    Have you ever screamed out into the dark
    Thinking no one else could hear

    I was leaving footprints tainted by my past
    On this winding road to you

    I'd lost my faith in love
    Tonight I believe again
    My Heart was a broken place
    Now I feel whole again
    You bring me honesty
    And that's worth believing in
    and I believe
    I believe again

    I believe the impossible is possible to overcome
    I believe in miracles
    Born from love in everyone
    This is Ti HA lol?:
    "The Analyst"

    Prepare yourself to meet a girl who can not sleep
    Dividing every question 'til the questions are complete
    Every twisted tongue she studies everyone
    She won't leave any stone unturned the night is oh so young

    Oh oh she's traveling back in time
    Questioning every line that someone said
    Oh oh she's trying to understand

    Free her mind she's always the analyst
    Silent space the culprit the catalyst
    Trying to make sense of her life
    Digging around in the dirt she's a slave to the work
    She's always the analyst

    Re-living the mistake she's made not a moment for the curious girl
    "In This Life"

    I was nurtured I was sheltered
    I was curious and young
    I was searching for that something
    Trying to find it on the run
    Oh and just when I stopped looking
    I saw just how far I'd come
    In this life
    In this life

    [Chorus:]
    You give me love
    You give me light
    Show me everything that's been happening
    I've opened up my eyes
    I'm following
    Three steps fight and honest fight
    Two hearts that can start a fire
    One love is all I need
    In this life

    I have faltered I have stumbled
    I have found my feet again
    I've been angry and I've been shaken
    Found a new place to begin
    My persistence to make a difference
    Has led me safe into your hands
    In this life
    In this life

    [Chorus]

    I was put here for a reason
    I was born into this world
    And I'm living and I'm believing
    A lot of "believing" in something... which is Ni. Saying someone is predictable and how they don't change... would probably bug Ni PoLR.

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    Not agreeing with everything she says in her videos/on her channel, but pretty sure she is IEI.. can relate to her way of arguing/talking so much (and her facial expressions):


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaviTilki View Post
    Not agreeing with everything she says in her videos/on her channel, but pretty sure she is IEI.. can relate to her way of arguing/talking so much (and her facial expressions):

    Holy crap, that's exactly how I talk about something I care about too. With the rising and falling intonations and "if this then this, if that then that, if that then what's next but THESE?" and everything.

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    IU, Korean singer-songwriter & actress:





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    Nope, she definitely is... I almost have complete proof now. Well if not an IEI then maybe EIE, but I kind of doubt it...

    Anyway, I'm kind of surprised that people don't think so, because I definitely know that some female IEIs can be like her, although there are none on this forum at this moment. They're kind of like me, but a bit different. They try to come across as both cool and lame, where they have this dorky self-deprecating sense of humor.

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    likely a Ni-IEI sp/so, she's so gentle - Carmen Turner-Schott




    Barbara Spectre is probably Ni-IEI so/sx







    Elisa Kreisinger - IEI 9w1 - http://www.popculturepirate.com/

    https://www.facebook.com/StrongOpini...44803/?fref=nf
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    I love Kate Bush. Even better than Marvin Gaye in this song. Babe, you are so great I can't wait for you to operate

    "And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Michelle Phan. She self types as a INFJ in MBTI, but I think she's a socionics IEI. She basically pioneered the whole beauty guru trend on youtube/social media.



    She struggles so much with the Te based questions... It's personally hard for me to watch, haha.
    I typed as INFJ in MBTI too, I think the system is directly convertible one just has to switch the j/p letters at the end. INFJ in MBTI (function wise) -> IEI, especially since many officially typed INFJs on websites are IEIs in socionics too (if people didn't fuck the typign up.. e.g. Mandela, Gandhi)
    Obviously the online tests mess up sometimes so some people mistype there a lot.

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    Taylor Swift is Beta rational for sure. I lean EIE > LSI purely due to how well she's constructed her cult of personality, her more than superficial talent at social graces and image-crafting. I can't see IEI at all, frankly. There's nothing about her that isn't carefully constructed artifice, and she never breaks poise. Also contra Singularity's argument, EIE females often come off as somewhat soft, they're described as often carrying on a forlorn poet image and with their weak Se they aren't usually nakedly forceful "grrr" types (that's more Se-base and only typical of E8 or cp6 EIEs). It'll be soft with a firm bearing given their EJ temperament though, and I think that fits Taylor perfectly. She's the living stereotype of a rational, definitely in no way IP.

    Same with Ivanka, I absolutely can't see IEI. She seems very logical and rational, and more than anything else a browse through her quotes bleeds Te. Talking about "vision" is far from necessarily Ni, it can just as easily be Ne and is standard for any business type. Not letting the past control you is referencing time, but I again think it's far from a specifically Ni-ego thing, since we all have regrets and we all don't want them to have an excess hold on us. I think she's LIE or LSE. Her strong interest in fashion and the fact that she's like permanently well-dressed very tentatively leans me towards the latter, but it's only a minor point against LIE.

    Singularity, between this and your list of musician typings where everyone and their cousin is IEI, you gotta diversify them typings. "X thing someone does is vaguely similar to some IEIs" does not mean they are an IEI.

    One agreement: Kate Bush, yeah, super IEI in my opinion.
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