Foki
Her boyfriend 1:21 LSE? o.o
Foki
Her boyfriend 1:21 LSE? o.o
Foki - S type is more possible
Sabrina Hunter
I don't as spam is commercial advertising. If you meant flood, - it's not such too, as my messages are in borders of the theme. Unlike your senseless message above.
It's not necessary for this information to be useful. If someone doubts, he may type them himself by data existing in Internet, like I did. As I said befor, any other typer has no significantly higher real match with your opinion.You're not even giving explanations as to why these women are "IEI".
While all today typing explanations are doubtfull speculations and demagogy, as have no objective experimental basis and use diverse data. So such useless explanations would be close to flood, which you say don't want.
Unlike you, I think by other way.I almost feel like you're just pulling these types out your ass.
If you don't agree with correct examples of the type which you (very probably) mistakenly fantasy as own, the only useful you may do - study the typology and begin thinking by more usual parts. Your hysterical lie change nothing. As I need to repeat almost same on your hysterics (even in this thread), the next time you'll feel discomfort (in place usual for your thinking processes) induced by disagreement with my typings, I recommend you to reread our previous discussion. There is not sense to show your inadequacy again and again.
Sol's greatest IEI hits and misses.
I don't watch youtube enough to know why most of these people are considered famous and I don't speak Russian so I don't bother to watch those. I did like the Eva Green discussion.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Alison Sudol - IEI so/sx
Lol at what has become of this thread.
I used to date a IEi girl whos now a quasi reknown poet, does that make her famous?
Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.
Talulah Riley - IEI-Fe 9w8 (sp/sx?) English actress and model, was in a relationship with Elon Musk (LSI) for ~8 years
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Not many would probably agree, but I think Taylor Swift is IEI. At least very much an E4. She is actually kind of weird and awkward in interviews and such.
Paula Jones looks like a stereotypical IEI-Fe @3:10
Lauren Rose - another IEI-Fe
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When I saw Paula Jones, she immediately reminded me of Kate Bush...
Oh and about Taylor Swift's awkwardness.... here's a good example:
At 00:30 mark, she's like, "What...?" like she was completely unfocused. That's the kind of detached awkwardness that I would have... (which could be kind of rude actually)
She's also pretty hesitant to say something, which is fairly typical of IEIs I think.
Maybe the guy on right is SEE, the guy on left (John Cleese) is LSI. John Cleese seems to be enjoying the Fe atmosphere.
Well I think the only other type that I would consider is EIE... or some other Fe type. The reason is because in her music, they usually show some extreme emotions like happiness (euphoria), anger (resentment) and sadness (dejection) which are typical of Fe. I would think Beta NF.
She is pretty much ALWAYS singing about love... which seems appropriate for the IEI - "The romantic" title, but that could just be because she's a woman and that's her expected role.
So she could be EIE, but I don't really see Gamma... And I just don't get the impression that she's this typical tough EJ type, she's more frail. She's also a bit more self-absorbed than the average EIE and mostly sings about herself from her own POV, but that could be an E4 thing.
I think she was a bit more typical dreamy IEI-ish, full of vibrant positivity (Positivist) in her earlier songs, like this:
"Fearless" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSjNWnzpjgOriginally Posted by Fearless
Then she actually experienced love and turned out that it sucks, and it's fully of tragedy (she had to make it tragic) so she turned more Victim-y:
"White Horses" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Xr-JFLxikOriginally Posted by White Horses
And this song is very Beta, actually:
"Change" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1jYllE0T-kOriginally Posted by Change
Seems Ni - finding the right moment to act, and seeking Se. Maybe it actually sounds slightly EIE.
Well I would think Gamma for Ivanka, because she has that "Women Who Work" thing and apparently for Gamma, working and professionalism is really important, according to Stratiyevskaya's description of Gammas.She comes off like too much of a perfectionist. It's the same perfectionist impression that I get from Ivanka Trump.
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Actually, I think Ivanka Trump could be an IEI, or some Ni type.
Here's a pertinent interview:
What is your greatest strength?
"I think I have a pretty specific vision in terms of design... envisioning a project and what has potential.
I think I am sincere... I think I am loyal and I think I'm a really good best friend."
How do you deal with regret?
"I tend to focus towards the future, and ensure that regrets that I've had in the past influence me so that they don't happen again." (Very Ni)
Kalel Kitten/Cullen. She describes herself as a "perfectionist", and she's into design and home decorating and things, so I don't think that IEIs aren't necessarily into these things:
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Ellie Goulding kind of reminds me of Delta Goodrem. I kind of don't think that she's IEE/ENFp, but maybe she is... (this is not an opinion on Ellie Goulding).
I haven't read the Shock Doctrine yet... is it any good? I guess some IEIs aren't interested in politics, but I like politics...
I just don't know any cool Betas right now.
@MaviTilki Are you a Dutch by any chance...?
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Ellen Foley, kind of an obscure-ish singer but with a fantastic voice, kind of like Lady Gaga:
Could also be an EIE actually, but I think she looks more like an IEI.
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I think these lyrics are kind of Ni/IEI... idk:
"Predictable"
You're just so predictable
In every way
I want you to know I know your game
It's so unbelievable
how you never change
you won't get away
with loving me
you're just so predictableThis is Ti HA lol?:"Believe Again"
Have you ever stared into the rain
Thought the clouds would never disappear
Have you ever screamed out into the dark
Thinking no one else could hear
I was leaving footprints tainted by my past
On this winding road to you
I'd lost my faith in love
Tonight I believe again
My Heart was a broken place
Now I feel whole again
You bring me honesty
And that's worth believing in
and I believe
I believe again
I believe the impossible is possible to overcome
I believe in miracles
Born from love in everyone
"The Analyst"
Prepare yourself to meet a girl who can not sleep
Dividing every question 'til the questions are complete
Every twisted tongue she studies everyone
She won't leave any stone unturned the night is oh so young
Oh oh she's traveling back in time
Questioning every line that someone said
Oh oh she's trying to understand
Free her mind she's always the analyst
Silent space the culprit the catalyst
Trying to make sense of her life
Digging around in the dirt she's a slave to the work
She's always the analyst
Re-living the mistake she's made not a moment for the curious girlA lot of "believing" in something... which is Ni. Saying someone is predictable and how they don't change... would probably bug Ni PoLR."In This Life"
I was nurtured I was sheltered
I was curious and young
I was searching for that something
Trying to find it on the run
Oh and just when I stopped looking
I saw just how far I'd come
In this life
In this life
[Chorus:]
You give me love
You give me light
Show me everything that's been happening
I've opened up my eyes
I'm following
Three steps fight and honest fight
Two hearts that can start a fire
One love is all I need
In this life
I have faltered I have stumbled
I have found my feet again
I've been angry and I've been shaken
Found a new place to begin
My persistence to make a difference
Has led me safe into your hands
In this life
In this life
[Chorus]
I was put here for a reason
I was born into this world
And I'm living and I'm believing
Not agreeing with everything she says in her videos/on her channel, but pretty sure she is IEI.. can relate to her way of arguing/talking so much (and her facial expressions):
IU, Korean singer-songwriter & actress:
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Nope, she definitely is... I almost have complete proof now. Well if not an IEI then maybe EIE, but I kind of doubt it...
Anyway, I'm kind of surprised that people don't think so, because I definitely know that some female IEIs can be like her, although there are none on this forum at this moment. They're kind of like me, but a bit different. They try to come across as both cool and lame, where they have this dorky self-deprecating sense of humor.
likely a Ni-IEI sp/so, she's so gentle - Carmen Turner-Schott
Barbara Spectre is probably Ni-IEI so/sx
Elisa Kreisinger - IEI 9w1 - http://www.popculturepirate.com/
https://www.facebook.com/StrongOpini...44803/?fref=nf
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I love Kate Bush. Even better than Marvin Gaye in this song. Babe, you are so great I can't wait for you to operate
"And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it, and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them."
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I typed as INFJ in MBTI too, I think the system is directly convertible one just has to switch the j/p letters at the end. INFJ in MBTI (function wise) -> IEI, especially since many officially typed INFJs on websites are IEIs in socionics too (if people didn't fuck the typign up.. e.g. Mandela, Gandhi)
Obviously the online tests mess up sometimes so some people mistype there a lot.
Taylor Swift is Beta rational for sure. I lean EIE > LSI purely due to how well she's constructed her cult of personality, her more than superficial talent at social graces and image-crafting. I can't see IEI at all, frankly. There's nothing about her that isn't carefully constructed artifice, and she never breaks poise. Also contra Singularity's argument, EIE females often come off as somewhat soft, they're described as often carrying on a forlorn poet image and with their weak Se they aren't usually nakedly forceful "grrr" types (that's more Se-base and only typical of E8 or cp6 EIEs). It'll be soft with a firm bearing given their EJ temperament though, and I think that fits Taylor perfectly. She's the living stereotype of a rational, definitely in no way IP.
Same with Ivanka, I absolutely can't see IEI. She seems very logical and rational, and more than anything else a browse through her quotes bleeds Te. Talking about "vision" is far from necessarily Ni, it can just as easily be Ne and is standard for any business type. Not letting the past control you is referencing time, but I again think it's far from a specifically Ni-ego thing, since we all have regrets and we all don't want them to have an excess hold on us. I think she's LIE or LSE. Her strong interest in fashion and the fact that she's like permanently well-dressed very tentatively leans me towards the latter, but it's only a minor point against LIE.
Singularity, between this and your list of musician typings where everyone and their cousin is IEI, you gotta diversify them typings. "X thing someone does is vaguely similar to some IEIs" does not mean they are an IEI.
One agreement: Kate Bush, yeah, super IEI in my opinion.
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