My typing of forum members

[Absurd]

Bwahaha, why so Ti Jim?

[Korpsy Knievel]

I would like to see these other instances. This thread is pretty similar to how he goes about typing in other cases I've seen him in - primarily relying on conjecture (assumptions of peoples motivations, plans, etc), half-assed attempts at IE correlations, and strained comparisons to other forum members (I.E. ESC and InvisibleJim). There's nothing in this thread for instance that he has pointed out that cements Jim as LII, he marks behaviors and responses as 'stereotypically blah blah' and uses that as evidence for someone's type which is a fundamentally flawed way of typing. He places little to no emphasis on ascertaining where someone's cognitive focus lies, just on what IE's he see's as being expressed which (going hand in hand with his emotional instability and sensitivity) make it so that he's highly prone to make justifications for people's types based on a whim.

Wholly bogus. And you're just sore because I won't agree to your SEE self-typing, though you certainly wasted no chance to butter me up in PMs on tinychat back when you still held some hope of that happening. Also this dumb response of yours shows that you really haven't been reading along.

People agreeing with him comes from the simple fact that this forum has become incestuous as far as opinions go, people will discuss with each other their opinions in chats and form consensus based on little examination and 'similar impressions' which don't actually mean jack shit since, like this thread is an example of, usually does not follow logically or substantially. he isn't the only one doing this, but I'm rather surprised you regard him in particular with any sort of respect in this matter.

What's interesting about this particular bit of scurrilous trash is that it neatly describes the near totality of your own behavior. The only thing missing is your odd penchant for branding everyone around you as "******s". Between that pervasive malfunction in your psyche to locate fault with everyone but yourself, and because of your strange reference to incest when you yourself are snugly ensconced in your own little clique and thus should have your entire posse's judgments dismissed by this standard you've just proclaimed, you and IJ's mommy phobia ought to have a flop on a psychiatrist's couch.

For the record, I think both invisible jim and korpsey are little bitches. I agree that jim is more likely Fe/Ti than Fi/Te but for different reasons, and regard korpsy's 'examination' in this thread as a template of what this forum should strive to avoid - not only in terms of typing people, but in terms of generally understanding another person.

So then produce your superior method for the world to follow instead of simply hoping people will accept your finger-pointing as something other than a vain twit's fever dream.

[Absurd]

Bump.

[InvisibleJim]

You're the one asking for fucking flowcharts, dude. You can't be serious. If you want to undertake all that crap, more power to you, but this is a hobby and a social outlet for most, including me, and I wouldn't derive much enjoyment from that.

Then you don't need to take part.

Like I said, I'm not going to play errand boy, I really don't care enough. But I do think k0rpsy's judgment is pretty good, and I actually trust yours less, you and discojoe and jenna seem to have devised your own standards, so...not sure what you want from me.

Oh wait, you are explicitly against standards you disagree with. How interesting!

wank wank wank

lol

[Gilly]

Then you don't need to take part.

Like you're actually going to do it

Oh wait, you are explicitly against standards you disagree with. How interesting!

What mediocre trolling...

[InvisibleJim]

Like you're actually going to do it

What mediocre trolling...

The thread has been up all day... :/

[Gilly]

The thread has been up all day... :/

...and is a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of something that has never yet succeeded in yielding what you are looking for, and you have not contributed, posting in this thread despite "not having time." Stop being a tool; you're obviously not stupid, so stop acting like it.

[InvisibleJim]

...and is a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of something that has never yet succeeded in yielding what you are looking for, and you have not contributed, posting in this thread despite "not having time." Stop being a tool; you're obviously not stupid, so stop acting like it.

Why so much rage gilly boy It'll happen when it happens.

[Gilly]

Why so much rage gilly boy It'll happen when it happens.

[thePirate]

Wholly bogus. And you're just sore because I won't agree to your SEE self-typing, though you certainly wasted no chance to butter me up in PMs on tinychat back when you still held some hope of that happening. Also this dumb response of yours shows that you really haven't been reading along.

No, there's a couple of people who disagree with my self-typing who have made interesting points and observations that actually have the ability to remain observant and impartial. I don't even think that the people who agree with me here as being SEE know what they are talking about (for the most part) and have accepted it purely because I have changed and stuck with it. What you agree or disagree with means nothing to me, and even if it did, I can acknowledge someone when they bring up good points, correlations, etc without having them need to agree with me as a necessity. The way you go about it is fundamentally impression based with justification riddled on top of it, which I fail to see how that would produce an accurate typing. As far as buttering you up goes, I PM'd alot of people to get more information about types. I was tentatively testing out SEE, the idea that I wanted your approval on a typing I was still in the process of working out is narcissism at it's best.

What's interesting about this particular bit of scurrilous trash is that it neatly describes the near totality of your own behavior. The only thing missing is your odd penchant for branding everyone around you as "******s". Between that pervasive malfunction in your psyche to locate fault with everyone but yourself, and because of your strange reference to incest when you yourself are snugly ensconced in your own little clique and thus should have your entire posse's judgments dismissed by this standard you've just proclaimed, you and IJ's mommy phobia ought to have a flop on a psychiatrist's couch.
.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about, where you rely on these phantoms you have conjured up as basis for typing and analysis. I have no idea what clique you are talking about. I don't type using an 'impression based method', I highly doubt you know how I type since I don't do any serious typing out in public chat and don't bother to talk about it in depth on the forums anymore - for the same reason, neither would you know who I talk to about those ideas. Saying that I have a penchant for blaming everyone but myself shows you know nothing at all about me. As far as methods goes, I mentioned where to focus your attention on an individual. Stop doing everything I mentioned above and make more of an effort to see the individual for who they are and where they are coming from (instead of completely relying on your own, many times faulty, judgement) - backed with a knowledge of IE's which I'm sure you can find the information for, you should be fine. I would also look up articles on the differences between Jung and Augusta's theories (there's a couple in russian) since some ideas are fundamentally incompatible which you don't seem to understand. You also need a revision on merry quadras since you habitually harp bullshit about them that go no deeper than superficial correlations like the one above.(bronyism is superficically Fe/Ti lolz). You've been brushing up on enneagram, so focusing on the stackings and triads would probably give you better perspective as to what traits are not related to IE's. Other then that, go fuck yourself.

[717495]

Bump.

Ti types are Ti.

[Absurd]

Ti types are Ti.

Sure they are. Bump. Anyway, can you name some Ti types straight off your head, polikujm?

[717495]

Sure they are. Bump. Anyway, can you name some Ti types straight off your head, polikujm?

Apparently not if I don't want to BS my way into it.

Anyway, we should all remember the official symbol if we want any advantage:

[Absurd]

Apparently not if I don't want to BS my way into it.

Anyway, we should all remember the official symbol if we want any advantage:

Without you socionics isn't complete, polikujm. Model A crumbles. Without me, there is no Socionics.

[Scapegrace]

Jim, sincere question: why do you care so much?

I think the lady doth protest too much.

[Korpsy Knievel]

What you agree or disagree with means nothing to me

Yet you're still squawking away about something you say doesn't matter. So you're some combination of lying and confused.

and even if it did, I can acknowledge someone when they bring up good points, correlations, etc without having them need to agree with me as a necessity. The way you go about it is fundamentally impression based with justification riddled on top of it, which I fail to see how that would produce an accurate typing. As far as buttering you up goes, I PM'd alot of people to get more information about types. I was tentatively testing out SEE, the idea that I wanted your approval on a typing I was still in the process of working out is narcissism at it's best.

And you were definitely testing my reaction to your "tentative" typing by glomming onto me in tinychat every time I entered and pestering me for insights into the ILI perspective, not to mention asking whether I agreed with your self-appraisal as SEE. And when I got tired of you breathing on me and didn't support your attempt at quadra-hopping you turned hostile and pretended my opinion didn't matter any more.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about, where you rely on these phantoms you have conjured up as basis for typing and analysis. I have no idea what clique you are talking about.

Beep beep beep, tinychat, the place where you're frequently active, making your usual dumb accusations and never-followed-through provocations.

I don't type using an 'impression based method', I highly doubt you know how I type since I don't do any serious typing out in public chat and don't bother to talk about it in depth on the forums anymore - for the same reason, neither would you know who I talk to about those ideas. Saying that I have a penchant for blaming everyone but myself shows you know nothing at all about me. As far as methods goes, I mentioned where to focus your attention on an individual. Stop doing everything I mentioned above and make more of an effort to see the individual for who they are and where they are coming from (instead of completely relying on your own, many times faulty, judgement) - backed with a knowledge of IE's which I'm sure you can find the information for, you should be fine. I would also look up articles on the differences between Jung and Augusta's theories (there's a couple in russian) since some ideas are fundamentally incompatible which you don't seem to understand.

Yet this is more or less how I go about typings, by contextualizing people's posting and chat history against a background of information from Jung, wikisocion, socionics.us, various Russian/Ukrainian sites, and so on. So again it's you making the stupidly presumptuous comments based on faulty impressions.

You also need a revision on merry quadras since you habitually harp bullshit about them that go no deeper than superficial correlations like the one above.(bronyism is superficically Fe/Ti lolz).

Take note of who authored these threads and who responded to them positively. Alphas, some betas, and a few deltas. Gammas who responded were generally appalled and repulsed by such puerile shit. Even woof, who I like to tease as loving everything, only went so far as to note that alphas feel toward these sparkly-assed ponies the way he does toward Daria:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...p/37179-Ponies
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...My-Little-Pony
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...dship-Is-Magic

And any other observations I've made about Merry quadras comes from dealing with you dick-knockers on this forum. See if you can count the number of posts referring to Fe as being fake, or alphas being giant babies who need coddling. You'll be at it for days.

[Scapegrace]

I happen to like ponies.

However, that show is for 6 year old little girls. There is no getting around it. I do not see the appeal.

[Ryan]

Take note of who authored these threads and who responded to them positively. Alphas, some betas, and a few deltas. Gammas who responded were generally appalled and repulsed by such puerile shit. Even woof, who I like to tease as loving everything, only went so far as to note that alphas feel toward these sparkly-assed ponies the way he does toward Daria:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...p/37179-Ponies
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...My-Little-Pony
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...dship-Is-Magic

And any other observations I've made about Merry quadras comes from dealing with you dick-knockers on this forum. See if you can count the number of posts referring to Fe as being fake, or alphas being giant babies who need coddling. You'll be at it for days.

How does that actually help you in your typings? Gammas can't be Ponies now? I know lots of Gammas who are into it. ILIs and LIEs to be exact.

I don't follow the show. What does that makes me?

[Ryan]

And I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people. At least none of them were dumb enough to post their own nudes on a public forum. Attention seeking ******.

[Creepy-pikachu]

And I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people. At least none of them were dumb enough to post their own nudes on a public forum. Attention seeking ******.

Who What When Where How and ... WUT WUT WUT?

[Scapegrace]

Everyone, say hello to our visiting psychologist, Ryan.

[Ryan]

Who What When Where How and ... WUT WUT WUT?

I'm not sure if the post/picture is still there, but woof graced us with a picture of his repulsive body not so long ago.

[Radio]

why are you so bitter ryan? woof's peen is awesome

[InvisibleJim]

why are you so bitter ryan? woof's peen is awesome

If Woofl learned to wear clothes regularly he would do the straight men a service.

How does that actually help you in your typings? Gammas can't be Ponies now? I know lots of Gammas who are into it. ILIs and LIEs to be exact.

I don't follow the show. What does that makes me?

I almost choked on my toast and beans: Typology via. cartoons.



I don't understand why k0rpsy keeps talking about socionics if he can't actually refer to model A and instead types using looser and looser and looser correlations upon correlations that do not causation make.

It's the height of unethical incompetence to post this drivel without discussing the contradictions and limitations in addition to the ever increasing deviation from the core model.

However, it does offer one explanation of why his 'typing of forum members' has such poor convergence versus self-typionics (statistically worse than maritsa).

[Birdie]

And I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people. At least none of them were dumb enough to post their own nudes on a public forum. Attention seeking ******.

I hope you see the irony in this post Ryan.

"I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people".

"Attention seeking ******."

Wait-- is that not making fun of someone? Can we not infer from your post that this now puts you in the group
of the mentally unstable? I truly hope you're not this big of a dickhead in person and that this is just your
internet persona trying to be a badass. I'd hate to think of you angering the wrong man.

If you do have this bad of an attitude when someone opposes you or differs in beliefs and morals from you,
I suggest from the heart that you take some time to work on responding more civilly and tactfully. I think it
could be of use to you.

[Ryan]

I hope you see the irony in this post Ryan.

"I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people".

"Attention seeking ******."

Wait-- is that not making fun of someone? Can we not infer from your post that this now puts you in the group
of the mentally unstable? I truly hope you're not this big of a dickhead in person and that this is just your
internet persona trying to be a badass. I'd hate to think of you angering the wrong man.

If you do have this bad of an attitude when someone opposes you or differs in beliefs and morals from you,
I suggest from the heart that you take some time to work on responding more civilly and tactfully. I think it
could be of use to you.

Instead of beating around the bush you could have copied me and tried to use that same logic in your post. In fact, I want you to do it. Go for it. See if you can make it work. Maybe then you would have realized how fucking wrong you are. Dumb bitch.

I leave the civility and tactfulness to your kind. You need it more than I do.

[Birdie]

Instead of beating around the bush you could have copied me and tried to use that same logic in your post. In fact, I want you to do it. Go for it. See if you can make it work. Maybe then you would have realized how fucking wrong you are. Dumb bitch.

I leave the civility and tactfulness to your kind. You need it more than I do.

Why don't you just amuse us all and go ahead and go for it. (:

[Ryan]

[thePirate]

Yet you're still squawking away about something you say doesn't matter. So you're some combination of lying and confused.

And you were definitely testing my reaction to your "tentative" typing by glomming onto me in tinychat every time I entered and pestering me for insights into the ILI perspective, not to mention asking whether I agreed with your self-appraisal as SEE. And when I got tired of you breathing on me and didn't support your attempt at quadra-hopping you turned hostile and pretended my opinion didn't matter any more.

Your opinion on my type means nothing to me, that isn't what we're discussing. I asked a number of people their opinions on types I was considering as I was going through different ones- which ranged from Beta NF to SEE. I asked you both those things for the same reason, I was curious about your input. You are making it more than what it was, as well as distorting events. You never supported my attempt at 'quadra-hopping', you shameless liar. Since the first time I private messaged you, you expressed to me that you didn't think I was SEE. At best, you were skeptical but open to the idea that you could be wrong which doesn't constitute as 'being supportive' - I wouldn't have gone past 1 private message conversing with you if that's what I was after. Also, I'm not pretending. I have no interest in your opinions on socionics any more, because after having pressed you for rationale, the foundation of your opinion rested on intuitive impressions you couldn't substantiate with anything tangible. You also have this extremely warped impression of what I do here and why I do them which remains consistently off the mark.


As far as turning hostile towards you goes, I treat you as I do any other person on here with a pompous attitude and sub-par rationale. What you are experiencing from me has to do with the understanding I have gained in terms of who I perceive you to be as a person and how you conduct yourself towards other people. As I said above, there are people on here who don't agree with my opinion who make respectable points type-wise, and overall are respectable people who I don't display hostility towards. You don't fit those categories to me. My hostility ranges in its reasons, but not agreeing on my type isn't one of them. I'm sure your petty ego would like to think it is for socionics reasons, so please don't allow what I said to stop you from thinking that.

Beep beep beep, tinychat, the place where you're frequently active, making your usual dumb accusations and never-followed-through provocations.

Tinychat isn't a clique dumbass.

Yet this is more or less how I go about typings, by contextualizing people's posting and chat history against a background of information from Jung, wikisocion, socionics.us, various Russian/Ukrainian sites, and so on. So again it's you making the stupidly presumptuous comments based on faulty impressions.

Yes, you use those sources but you make the same mistakes I mentioned in http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post919751 which makes your process faulty. If your perception is skewed it doesn't matter how may tools (sources) you have at your disposal, the result will be fundamentally unreliable as evidenced by that shoddy analysis in the OP.

Take note of who authored these threads and who responded to them positively. Alphas, some betas, and a few deltas. Gammas who responded were generally appalled and repulsed by such puerile shit. Even woof, who I like to tease as loving everything, only went so far as to note that alphas feel toward these sparkly-assed ponies the way he does toward Daria:

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...p/37179-Ponies
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...My-Little-Pony
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...dship-Is-Magic

And any other observations I've made about Merry quadras comes from dealing with you dick-knockers on this forum. See if you can count the number of posts referring to Fe as being fake, or alphas being giant babies who need coddling. You'll be at it for days.

This isn't substantial. People like and dislike things for different reasons, the fact that you managed to find a pattern on this forum means little to nothing - especially considering the small sample size. Quickly pinning a pattern like this to quadras is only useful for giving misleading impressions. Personally I would only associate shows with elements purely for fun and mostly in jest. Some shows can be a interesting showcase for IE's but I would never attempt to use someone enjoying/liking that show as a point towards a typing, that's beyond ridiculous. That pattern means literally nothing applied person to person - the 'why and how' are the cruxes, the former which you have an uncanny ability of assuming wrongly. A presumptuous mentality is what pervasively surrounds all your typings and what needs to be rectified if you hope to gain any form of competency.

[Korpsy Knievel]

It's the height of unethical incompetence to post this drivel without discussing the contradictions and limitations in addition to the ever increasing deviation from the core model.

However, it does offer one explanation of why his 'typing of forum members' has such poor convergence versus self-typionics (statistically worse than maritsa).

Nice pose but you've yet to cough up the spreadsheet this repeated but un-adduced smear is supposedly based upon.

Your opinion on my type means nothing to me

Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me. Period.

[strangeling]

At least none of them were dumb enough to post their own nudes on a public forum.

I posted my butt. Did you see that?
Nobody liked it.
You can be the first to like it.
I think I have a nice butt.

[woofwoofl]

No, there's a couple of people who disagree with my self-typing who have made interesting points and observations that actually have the ability to remain observant and impartial. I don't even think that the people who agree with me here as being SEE know what they are talking about (for the most part) and have accepted it purely because I have changed and stuck with it. What you agree or disagree with means nothing to me

woohoo Ti/Fe mind gamez

and even if it did

bwaaahahaha

I was tentatively testing out SEE, the idea that I wanted your approval on a typing I was still in the process of working out is narcissism at it's best.

Why must you bullshit?

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about, where you rely on these phantoms you have conjured up as basis for typing and analysis.

and here @InvisibleJim, this ain't a flowchart but it's something, more or less my process from the very start:

1) lay down decent-enough foundational knowledge of Socionics
2) get some solid types down that have solid consensus
3) look for commonalities and contrasts between those types that fall on differing sides of dichotomies or quadrants (quadras, temperaments, cog styles, etc.)
4) use those revelations to help nail down types I've been previously undecided on
5) go to step 3

So wow, Pirate, you've gotten no newfound insight that you apply to your typings; you're just at square one, doing little more than eating black squiggles off a white background and vomitting and shitting them out in paraphrase?

I have no idea what clique you are talking about.

Why must you bullshit?

I don't type using an 'impression based method'

k

I highly doubt you know how I type since I don't do any serious typing out in public chat and don't bother to talk about it in depth on the forums anymore

So k0rp shows his work, you shit on him for it, while you not only abstain from putting in any work of your own, but actively muddle things up by dicking around with your self-typing. Okay.

As far as methods goes, I mentioned where to focus your attention on an individual. Stop doing everything I mentioned above and make more of an effort to see the individual for who they are and where they are coming from (instead of completely relying on your own, many times faulty, judgement) - backed with a knowledge of IE's which I'm sure you can find the information for, you should be fine. I would also look up articles on the differences between Jung and Augusta's theories (there's a couple in russian) since some ideas are fundamentally incompatible which you don't seem to understand. You also need a revision on merry quadras since you habitually harp bullshit about them that go no deeper than superficial correlations like the one above.(bronyism is superficically Fe/Ti lolz). You've been brushing up on enneagram, so focusing on the stackings and triads would probably give you better perspective as to what traits are not related to IE's. Other then that, go fuck yourself.

Show your work. Get some more typings down. Feed the spreadsheet. Do something constructive instead of just blowing smoke.

And I like how the mentally unstable are quick to make fun of people. At least none of them were dumb enough to post their own nudes on a public forum. Attention seeking ******.

With no pic, no backstory, nothing really of yourself you've offered us here, there's not even a "you" to piss on. Thankfully, you've handled that yourself when aiming up at my leg to tinkle against the wind.

I'm not sure if the post/picture is still there, but woof graced us with a picture of his repulsive body not so long ago.

@ u

 

[Birdie]

@woofwoofl, you should probably mark that nsfw.

Was not expecting to see you completely.
My virgin eyes.

[woofwoofl]

@woofwoofl, you should probably mark that nsfw.

Was not expecting to see you completely.
My virgin eyes.

[Ryan]

welp

[strangeling]

 

There it is, still shining like a champion for all its glory to see.

[Absurd]

Hmm, you want to have sex with Ryan and Tackk, while watching my little pony, woofwoofl?

[Creepy-pikachu]

I would like to see these other instances. This thread is pretty similar to how he goes about typing in other cases I've seen him in - primarily relying on conjecture (assumptions of peoples motivations, plans, etc), half-assed attempts at IE correlations, and strained comparisons to other forum members (I.E. ESC and InvisibleJim). There's nothing in this thread for instance that he has pointed out that cements Jim as LII, he marks behaviors and responses as 'stereotypically blah blah' and uses that as evidence for someone's type which is a fundamentally flawed way of typing. He places little to no emphasis on ascertaining where someone's cognitive focus lies, just on what IE's he see's as being expressed which (going hand in hand with his emotional instability and sensitivity) make it so that he's highly prone to make justifications for people's types based on a whim.

People agreeing with him comes from the simple fact that this forum has become incestuous as far as opinions go, people will discuss with each other their opinions in chats and form consensus based on little examination and 'similar impressions' which don't actually mean jack shit since, like this thread is an example of, usually does not follow logically or substantially. he isn't the only one doing this, but I'm rather surprised you regard him in particular with any sort of respect in this matter.

For the record, I think both invisible jim and korpsey are little bitches. I agree that jim is more likely Fe/Ti than Fi/Te but for different reasons, and regard korpsy's 'examination' in this thread as a template of what this forum should strive to avoid - not only in terms of typing people, but in terms of generally understanding another person.

Overarching point, I assume, is that the forum is littered with persuasions of either what someone wants or their own distorted self-image based on externals that have little to do with information metabolism itself. Check!

...now, back to socionics gangs.

[Olduvai]

The fundamental difference between rational and irrational information elements is not built into the Reinin model.

Also, it has no concept of functional ordering.

It doesn't matter that Reinin lacks these concepts, because that's what Model A is for; the two are all complementary and shit.

If you use Renin without referring back to Model A you can get into a pickle.

The point is, you seem to be a positivist.

But either way, you can't properly differentiate LII/ILI/SLI/LSI without considering the ethics of the situation

Or you can just use positivism/negativism.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

lol I can't believe my soul had to stomach re-reading an old k0rpsey drama thread. but lol @ him actually thinking his critiques are 'external' and not colored with his own subjective feelings and impressions.

I've noticed that this forum had a bad habit of that, but maybe it's in the past now (this thread IS two years old) I remember people seriously thinking other posters were 'more factual' and 'objective' or something just because their personalities weren't as outwardly nice and victimy or something. That's so lame. Truth is truth, it doesn't matter how you say it - whether in a harsh sadistic k0rpsey way or a sugarcoated victimy maritsa way or a neutral try to be fair to all parties bg way.

No wonder so many people here had low self-esteem issues just because somebody told them lies with bite.