Then maybe IEI, if it seems likely VS cognition. Pretty sure he wasn't LIE, not only due to VI but the overall demenanor he gives.
Addendum: Yeah. I see it now. He was IEI-Fe. Thanks @godslave
Interesting that he collaborated with his conflictor (Von Neumann) to create the Atomic Bomb.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
Then maybe, Von Neumann maybe was LSI-Ti (Thinking now).
So they were activity, and I take some issue about these guys being typed LIE because it is kind of an unethical thing to create an atomic bomb, and it's more fitting for Betas than Gammas to be involved in this sort of thing.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
More evidence:
-LIE-Ni's are not usually into math (in the case of supposed type for Feynman)
-LIE's would be willing to create a destruction device such as an atomic bomb, but only if in the grand scheme of things, it would be justified of it would have some use that would trump the bad act (Like Ozymandias in the movie Watchmen, although this guy was pretty evil, but that's how a LIE-Ni would probably go about it)
-LIE-Te (in the case of Von Neumann) wouldn't be very into physics either because Physics is a Beta thing mostly (Due to it's correlation with beta -Se). My physics professor at university was LSI-Se.
-LIE-Te are not likely to say this : "If you say why not bomb them tomorrow, I say why not today? If you say today at five o' clock, I say why not one o' clock?" Due to them being defensive gammas types and not "trigger happy".
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
He seems a 7w6. A LIE-Ni 7w6 is this:
Compare:
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
they look kind of similar to meOriginally Posted by lavos
He seems a 7w6. A LIE-Ni 7w6 is this:
Compare:
This all applies to me as well. ...Am I LIE now?Maybe this is NT type characteristic in general.
The only exception, I don't talk that much... and when it comes to work... it's a matter how somebody defines what can considered to be work.
Really? Where is the point that Te is his PoLR function?
Why not? Math is not Te.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
But physics is Te, yes? I would think you'd need both Te and Ti to understand physics, but maybe you have a different idea about this.
Umm.. Maybe for LIE. I'm just referring to things that can be observed. The Ej temperament; For instance he had depressive episodes that were not natural up and downs. Steady work kept him functional. So there's nothing NT about that.This all applies to me as well. ...Am I LIE now?
The only exception, I don't talk that much... and when it comes to work... it's a matter how somebody defines what can considered to be work.
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My understanding (could be wrong thought) is that physics is beta se (-Se). I used to think math was alpha Ti, but if Feynman was IEI, I guess it can be beta Ti too (reason I thought he was EIE-Ni at first, since with his role function EIE-Ni can be a good mathematician--I had a math teacher that was EIE-Ni). But LSI(even LSI-Se) often is good with calculus.
Perhaps to calculate is more beta Ti, and actual theorems and dichotomous logic is alpha Ti.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
Very different vibe/energy.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
@lavos they come from different eras so of course the vibe is different
Interesting ! I think that any form of depression can touch any type, regardless of whether that type is rational or irrational (Shizothyme/Cyclothyme). Bipolar disorder for instance (which as we know includes depressive episodes) can touch any type despite ( and until proven) what the socionics rational/irrational seems to imply. There are a lot of NTs who suffered from depression esp in research field. I bet that a lot of the folks who worked on the Manhattan project have had an encounter with depression and/or burnout because of the pression and stress. Note that mental health diseases often comes with one or several comorbid mental health issues.
I read that people with IQ>130 ( I'm not a fan of IQ !!) are prone to mental health issues. A lot of famous scientists and so called geniuses of history have been diagnosed (post mortem !!) with mental issues. I didn't find a serious study about that only speculations and array of presemptions.
Here is one of those articles about geniuses and mental illness (it's interesting and yet meh) I think there are some NTs in the list :
https://historycollection.com/these-...-the-world/14/
This article is meh because it is based on Mensa members (I'm not a fan of Mensa because I'm not a fan of IQ)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-intelligent/
Anyway sorry for the digression !
Feynman was one of the atom bomb designers and lost his wife . That's something. He was nearly forced to be on a plane that dropped a bomb. So...Interesting ! I think that any form of depression can touch any type, regardless of whether that type is rational or irrational (Shizothyme/Cyclothyme). Bipolar disorder for instance (which as we know include depressive episodes) can touch any type despite ( and until proven) what the socionics rational/irrational seems to imply. There are a lot of NTs who suffered from depression esp in research field. I bet that a lot of the folks who worked on the Manhattan project have had an encounter with depression and/or burnout because of the pression and stress. Note mental health diseases often comes with one or several comorbid mental health issues.
I read that people with IQ>130 ( I'm not a fan of IQ !!) are prone to mental health issues. A lot of famous scientists and so called geniuses of history have been diagnosed (post mortem !!) with mental issues. I didn't find a serious study about that only speculations and array of presemptions.
This article is meh because it is based on Mensa members (I'm not a fan of Mensa because I'm not a fan of IQ
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-intelligent/
Here is one of those articles about geniuses and mental illness (it's interesting and yet meh) I think there are some NTs in the list :
https://historycollection.com/these-...-the-world/14/
Anyway sorry for the digression !
In any case the thing that I point is that steady types are probably clearly affected by their ups and downs. So called distinct episodes.
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I mean, people also just like diagnosing smart, successful, etc. people with mental health issues when they can't object to it. "Sure, I'm stupid and miserable and poor, but at least I'm not crrrrrrrazy!" No, you're just jealous of people who are better than you.
IEI? What? A world-renowned theoretical physicist has Te PoLr and Ti HA of the Fe (!) subtype because he smiles? Vultology is arbitrary.
As for OP: obvious ILE is obvious.
His IQ is actually famously known for being quite low for a physicist (especially given his intellectual acumen), scoring around 125, the average for a PhD being around 130.Interesting ! I think that any form of depression can touch any type, regardless of whether that type is rational or irrational (Shizothyme/Cyclothyme). Bipolar disorder for instance (which as we know includes depressive episodes) can touch any type despite ( and until proven) what the socionics rational/irrational seems to imply. There are a lot of NTs who suffered from depression esp in research field. I bet that a lot of the folks who worked on the Manhattan project have had an encounter with depression and/or burnout because of the pression and stress. Note that mental health diseases often comes with one or several comorbid mental health issues.
I read that people with IQ>130 ( I'm not a fan of IQ !!) are prone to mental health issues. A lot of famous scientists and so called geniuses of history have been diagnosed (post mortem !!) with mental issues. I didn't find a serious study about that only speculations and array of presemptions.
Here is one of those articles about geniuses and mental illness (it's interesting and yet meh) I think there are some NTs in the list :
https://historycollection.com/these-...-the-world/14/
This article is meh because it is based on Mensa members (I'm not a fan of Mensa because I'm not a fan of IQ
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-intelligent/
Anyway sorry for the digression !
Well I guess everything is relative...
" 2 x 1 = ? "
My VI skills are not very sharp right now. I should have seen it, but I kinda see it now that he was ILE-Ti. I was just pretty sure he wasn't LIE.
BTW, VI =/= Vultology. VI is just seeing the underlying pattern that is unequivocal and tells the person's type (and a single picture sometimes suffices).
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
Relax guys
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Disclaimer: the original user of "my typing skills are not very sharp" is Godslave. Wanted to mention it but I guess everyone knows already. I hesitated whether to use it it not, but apparently it has copyright so, I'll just come up with my own and say "my VI ability is rusty". How'd you like that Godslave?
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
So anyway; my VI ability is rusty. It used to be better (it comes and goes due some reason) but right now I'm not in my prime.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
I was joking ! Please don't take my jokes seriously ahahah ! There is no copyright ! It's cool ahahaha !
That's good to know.. I for a moment thought you were being serious and/or strangely confrontational for an EII who is also E9.
No problem, man.
Then, the angel asked her what her name was. She said: "I have none"
Thanks for the Typing btw !
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@lavos he V.I-s more like an SLE now to me..lol
If we're using Model A function signs, ILEs are more.. I guess intense in their Fe-expression (due to Fe+)? Beta STs are more mellow* (the way they come off) in my experience (Fe-) / *that's my impression of him from watching his talks on youtube
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Ah, you've never typed anyone that before! How could I ever have expected this? I also love your extensive reasoning provided! Every last point of your argument is well-thought-out and supported with plentiful details!
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