Originally Posted by
Winterpark
Originally Posted by
Krig the Viking
I agree at least that he seems IP, but he's lacking a certain groundedness and "thereness" that comes with Si. You get the feeling that if the interviewer had suddenly slapped him in the face, Depp wouldn't notice until a few seconds later, as his mind is elsewhere.
Contrast that with interviews of Richard Dean Anderson, Viggo Mortensen, or Harrison Ford (all SLIs IMO), who are all very much "in the moment" and engaging with the things happening right around them.
I just don't see Si in Depp.
What you're describing sounds like Se, not Si. Si is inward focused.
I find your objection confusing. Si is external dynamics of fields, Ni is internal dynamics of fields. What that means is Si focuses on how the dynamics of the immediate physical surroundings affect the subject, whereas Ni focuses on how the dynamics of non-immediate, abstract things affect the subject. Johnny Depp does not seem focused on his immediate physical surroundings, to me; he's always focused on abstract ideas and intagible concepts.
Originally Posted by
songofsappho
Hearing things he's said makes me think he's Delta, and watching him makes me think Ip. I definitely see Ne/Si-valuing, and I think there's a preference for Fi>Fe as well. I hadn't previously considered SLI for his type, but it's definitely worth considering imo....
Some choice quotes:
I suppose it's all a matter of interpretation. I thought those quotes sounded quite IEI.
Here's my take on them (Depp's quotes in bold)
I think the thing to do is enjoy the ride while you're on it.
This sounds like Fe to me (you could rephrase it as: "the key to life is to have positive emotions").
I'm an old-fashioned guy... I want to be an old man with a beer belly sitting on a porch, looking at a lake or something.
I can see how this could be Si, but the rest of the evidence seems to point to NiFe.
If there's any message to my work, it is ultimately that it's OK to be different, that it's good to be different, that we should question ourselves before we pass judgment on someone who looks different, behaves different, talks different, is a different color.
I don't know, i think everyone in Hollywood has said something like this at one point or another.
People say I make strange choices, but they're not strange for me. My sickness is that I'm fascinated by human behavior, by what's underneath the surface, by the worlds inside people.
This is so Ni-Fe it hurts. Fe is internal dynamics of objects -- "worlds inside people." Applying that on a generalized, global scale ("human behaviour") rather than an individualized, personal scale links it to Ni > Si.
There are necessary evils. Money is an important thing in terms of representing freedom in our world. And now I have a daughter to think about. It's really the first time I've thought about the future and what it could be.
I can see how this could be interpreted to mean weak Ni (as strong Ni types stereotypically think about the future a lot), but in context he's talking about a certain practical sense of "thinking about the future", related to money and such. I'd say he's talking about starting to realize the need for Te.
Marlon Brando is maybe the greatest actor of the last two centuries. But his mind is much more important than the acting thing. The way that he looks at things, doesn't judge things, the way that he assesses things. He's as important as, uh... who's important today? Jesus, not many people... Stephen Hawking!
Once again, he's focused on internal things (Marlon Brando's mind). If he were Te, he would be focused on more practical, external concerns.
Who knows what goes on underneath the table, outside the frame? I may have a feather duster down my pants. It's not necessarily sexual, either. If I'm having a difficult time with a scene, getting too serious, I like to take a handheld duster or maybe a wrench, shove it down my pants and play the scene that way. Any object that doesn't belong--it takes your mind off the seriousness of the situation. Just when you're bursting into tears you realize there's a dust mop in your shorts.
Again, very Ni-Fe. He doesn't care about the physical sensation of the feather duster (which would be Si), he cares about the abstract absurdity of the situation, and how that affects his internal emotional state (how Ni affects Fe).
LA is too fast, too pacy. There is too much of everything, just too much. In France, I can have distance and sort of see the game for what it is, rather than trying to understand it from the inside. I'm not swimming in the soup bowl. I'm not getting overcooked in that big stewpot.
Fame, celebrity--it's not such a big deal in Europe. People seem to understand that you just have a weird job. They're not running after you, trying to carve chunks out of you. It's strange in the states. Most fans here are great, but there's a handful who have seen the movies and feel they know you. They think it's alright to touch you and ask personal questions.
I have a funny relationship with my body...Ah, it sounds so stupid, but for me there shouldn't be any half way.
In the first half of this, Depp is talking about taking a step back in order to see the big picture (N > S). The second part, where he seems uneasy about people touching him, sounds like weak Si/Se to me. Types strong in Si and Se may not want people touching them either, but they're too assertive about not letting that happen to complain about it much. Someone weak in Si/Se (like me) is almost helpless to prevent physical contact in an assertive way.
Originally Posted by
Gilly
Well the hard evidence is on my side. Look at this thread: 15 pages, probably in the top 5% or so of threads on this ENTIRE forum in terms of thing, and not a single person has budged or changed their rationale.
Well that's just because we're not done yet.