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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Man grows used to everything, the scoundrel!
-Raskolnikov
Books by EIIs "the author" are usually good. Like Dostojevsky, Mika Waltari...
Perhaps you could be more specific.
Are the books official, is the thread official, are the reviews official and who decides/ what are the criteria for what is official?
Some people on here are like books with plot twists and suspense, some have their covers too far apart and it is impossible to read them, though.
"The Jungle"- Upton Sinclair
"Roadside Picnic" -Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
"Jurassic Park"- Micheal Crichton
"Les Miserables"- Victor Hugo
"Lost Illusions"- Honore De Balzac
"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.".
finished love in the time of cholera. started and abandoned thus spoke zarathustra. i got fed up with trying to understand it. like the chapter about women (you know, don't forget the whip), theres a part in the footnotes about how its not really about women but he uses women as a metaphor for mind or some shit and i just couldn't buy it. and its like how am i supposed to read any of this if something so obviously about one thing is actually about something else.. i mean i don't think i really suck that bad at understanding metaphors in general, but wtf? i think its vague enough that its like an abstract painting and people make up whatever they want about it. so i tried reading it without trying to interpret it, just to enjoy the flavor of the words. which i could do for awhile but after so many pages of exclamation points it just starts to come across like a bunch of grandiose bellowing. maybe i'll try it again later.
i just started the metamorphosis tonight. maybe some short fiction will kickstart my reading habit back into gear.
I AM STILL WORKING ON THIS BITCH! 300 pages to go. Life got in the way. The writing is so dense I have to work up the motivation to pick it up, but when I do I love it.
I found that a really unsatisfying read. But Kafka is generally like that. I guess that's the point, lol. I like Amerika -- it's about a guy who is banished by his family to America for his debauchery. Except Kafka's version of America is this bureaucratic acid trip.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I am reading "What a Wonderful World" Bio of Louis Armstrong's later years; it's a compelling read, deep sea diving into the many layers of change and history and how the music world evolved; I especially enjoy how the different musician view each other throughout big cultural changes spanning the music career of Armstrong and how Jazz faired and evolved throughout these changes.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Finished reading Bukowski's Women. I could see parts of myself in the main character, the writer's alter ego, Henry Chinaski.
Henry Chinaski is a writer, a drunk, womanizer and very depressed. He is very introverted and clumsy with women, though his women find him through his books. That's the only reason he gets lucky. He's into betting on horses and boxing. He's an old ugly man in his fifties and he likes younger women. He always checks out the women's legs. He's obsessed with them.
The style is minimalist, grim and yet somehow humanely hopeful and forgiving. Basic Bukowski material.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
Starting:
Finishing:
Not a huge crime/mystery fan and wouldn't have bothered if I wasn't told this guy had written Wallander. The prose annoyed me at first (probably just the translation) but the plot makes this a compelling read. Had never thought about the relationship between German Nazism and Sweden before - interesting stuff.
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
What I'm reading now:
The Veil of Isis by Pierre Hadot
The history of the concept of nature in western philosophy.
Divine Horsemen by Maya Deren
Standard text for understanding Haitian Vodoun.
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I finished The Beach by Alex Garland some time ago. I had reserved it from the library while drunk and couldn't remember where I'd heard about it or why I wanted to read it when it arrived, but I'm glad I did. I won't reveal too much, but the way the beach paradise is turned into a hell by changes so subtle you won't really even notice until it's too late was ingenious. I reminded me of how often people can establish amazing relationships with amazing people only to wake up to a nightmare one night without knowing what the hell really went wrong and when. It felt very real to me.
Godfather
I'm currently reading Gone Girl, by Gillian Flynn for a book club. It's messing with my head.
Favorite Books:
-The Little Prince, by Antoine de Saint-Exupery (also loved Wind, Sand and Stars)
-Anna Karenina, by Leo Tolstoy
-The Family that Couldn't Sleep: A Medical Mystery, by D.T. Max
Next on my reading list:
-Bossypants, by Tina Fey
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
It's true. It's not light reading by any stretch, but Hugo's writing is laced with humor and wit. The novel is also more "spacious" than the musical, which is basically three hours of nonstop misery which sort of desensitizes you to the tragic plot points. In the book, the tragic events are spread out and Hugo paces the action so that when you come across something horrific, it makes a tremendous impact. Also, the Thenardiers serve as comic relief in the musical, which isn't the case with the novel. In the novel, they may just be the most evil characters you meet.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
I remember as a child seeing Les Miserables on my mother's bookshelf and asking about it because it was so thick. She told me that's a story about a man who gets sent to prison for 20 years for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his family. That sounded so awful and the book looked so thick that I decided never to read it. I also skillfully avoided seeing the musical and even listening to the music. So I finally had to see it last January. I agree about the nonstop misery. It was worse than I expected. However, I loved the story about Valjean's redemption and the life of goodness and mercy that he lived because of the one act of mercy that was shown to him. That made the movie worthwhile to me. I am debating with myself about reading the book.
You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq_XJmM-k
Yeah, the movie is actually even more condensed than the musical, which made the problem worse. Definitely give the book a try. Everyone I know who has read it has enjoyed it. Hugo eases you into the story gently. You begin with a long section describing the saintly bishop who changes Valjean's life. This section is pretty enjoyable and not miserable. Meeting Valjean through the bishop softens the blow considerably. There are also whole chapters and even sections that have nothing at all to do with the plot, including an interminable series of chapters on French convents, a long section on the battle of Waterloo and description of the Paris sewer system. A lot of people skip these sections, but they help with the pacing of the story.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Just reread The Black Sun: The Alchemy and Art of Darkness by a Jungian dude called Stanton Marlan - really decent exploration of the sol niger symbolism using many references - case studies, psychologists, art, literature, etc. There's a free pdf version floating around online and I recommend it if you're that way inclined.
"Eye of Cat"
Roger Zelazny
Think I was 11 the last time I read it.
Man grows used to everything, the scoundrel!
-Raskolnikov
I met an LSE who reads sci-fi today =.-
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ILEs, this book is going to drive you mad:
We carnt makes da cake cos you got to have s adult. Ovens ar hot. *pours flour over head and cries*
shouldn't you all reading instead of posting to this thread? i call bs
Reading a battered copy of the Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson, not true, just reading all of the highlighted and underlined text and the handwritten notes. I'll finish great gatsby today. I get tired of reading ebooks so I need a real book break sometimes.
Deceit, Desire, and the Novel by René Girard.
Also, not really a book, but I'm half way through The Sandman series.
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