Don't be a cosmic idiot

[Creepy-pokeball]

I do. God is on my side...

Okay. Bend over, and I will show you what "no homo" feels like.

[Absurd]

Okay. Bend over, and I will show you what "no homo" feels like.

You're so straight and manly, Jadae. Mraow.

[Creepy-pokeball]

You're so straight and manly, Jadae. Mraow.

IKR. It turns me on when you say that.

[Absurd]

IKR. It turns me on when you say that.

You got a hard on, queer boy?

[Ryan]

Sigh...

Its sad to see you take pride in such small victories, when you clearly only felt the need to make such attempts as a result of feeling inadequate.

Wash, rinse, repeat...

Watch me do it over and over. You, in particular, can't win an argument with me, whatever it is. You really were setting yourself up for failure the moment you addressed me. And how come someone who apparently fails to apply these aspiring concepts, on his own admission, is speaking highly of it?

[Creepy-pokeball]

You got a hard on, queer boy?

Only for you. Otherwise, "no homo," unless we get in a little fight and we cheat on each other. Just dont hurt my feeling by telling me which forum member you cheated on with me, because I am tired of sitting in the hot shower eating cookies while I cry.

[Gilly]

Watch me do it over and over. You, in particular, can't win an argument with me, whatever it is. You really were setting yourself up for failure the moment you addressed me. And how come someone who apparently fails to apply these aspiring concepts, on his own admission, is speaking highly of it?

Lol this is fucking hilarious

I wish you could see you right now

[Fermi]

It's only gay if you make eye contact

[ashlesha]

r.i.p.

[Ryan]

Lol this is fucking hilarious

I wish you could see you right now

You're learning.

Now fuck off. I don't like manhandling small fries.

[Absurd]

Only for you. Otherwise, "no homo," unless we get in a little fight and we cheat on each other. Just dont hurt my feeling by telling me which forum member you cheated on with me, because I am tired of sitting in the hot shower eating cookies while I cry.

I noticed you say "only for you" when replying to anyone who might stuff you like a piniata, like if it were your last line of defence - defensive much? No, I'm not imagining things, both in chatbox and in threads. Anyhow, I bet korpsey is going to have work to do typing you.

[Creepy-pokeball]

I noticed you say "only for you" when replying to anyone who might stuff you like a piniata, like if it were your last line of defence - defensive much? No, I'm not imagining things, both in chatbox and in threads. Anyhow, I bet korpsey is going to have work to do typing you.

Did you just imply that Kassie is equipped like a man?

[Absurd]

Did you just imply that Kassie is equipped like a man?

Did you just implied I did imply that?

[ashlesha]

sigh

[Aivonaima]

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[Creepy-pokeball]

sigh

...but you'd likely have a very beautiful wang.

[InvisibleJim]

Watch me do it over and over. You, in particular,

*averts eyes*

[Gilly]

You're learning.

Now fuck off. I don't like manhandling small fries.

This is fucking priceless.

Do you really not feel or see how pathetic this sounds from the other end? Making all of these proclamations of your superiority that are completely baseless is not only failing to have any effect on me, given the amount of similar bullshit I've endured, but is making you out to be horribly insecure.

Add the geeky kid lifting weights in your avatar...seriously dude, take a step back, go do some non-internets for a while.

[Ryan]

Oh Gilly.

What is with this obsession with my avatar anyway? I swear I'm going to wear it everywhere if it has such an effect on people.

[Gilly]

Oh Gilly.

What is with this obsession with my avatar anyway? I swear I'm going to wear it everywhere if it has such an effect on people.

K I tried

[mu4]

Actually a lot of people familiar with e-prime use it all or most of the time – Robert Anton Wilson to be mentioned. Fuck me for not remembering where he stated that there was a time in his life when he punished himself every time he used the verb "be" in any of its forms.

I've found this very helpful in my life, especially when dealing with controversial ideas – people get less worked up and open up to new thoughts more easily when you do not seem to claim anything absolutely. After all, as long as we think in languages, the way we use the language shapes our thoughts and thus thinking. Dumb, you say? Well, guess what, saying that appears rather dumb to me.

Your quote fails the e-prime test.

this is not a rehearsal
This is the real me.

[mu4]

Now fuck off. I don't like manhandling small fries.

This is partially e-prime compliant. *golf claps

[Gilly]

Your quote fails the e-prime test.

this is not a rehearsal
This is the real me.

You keep saying this like it means anything at all. Do you not realize that it's not a fucking competition, or strict kind of thing?

I feel like you just don't have any real response, because your points have been proven to be shit, and you refuse to admit that you just don't like it.

[mu4]

You keep saying this like it means anything at all. I feel like you just don't have any real response.

I view the whole topic as kinda of pointless, like "the secret" and such, or yoga or meditation. Do it if you want, don't if you don't. It's a trival thing.

[Aivonaima]

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[mu4]

Yes, it does. And?

Just making observations of what people actually say.

[Aivonaima]

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[mu4]

Uh-oh, whatever rocks your boat, man. You've got a whole lot to unravel if that's the case. I wonder if theres a language that has no word for being...

A wise man once told me, talk less, observe more. Wait... was it drink more.... I don't remember, wasn't paying attention.

[Gilly]

I view the whole topic as kinda of pointless, like "the secret" and such, or yoga or meditation. Do it if you want, don't if you don't. It's a trival thing.

Ok.

[Korpsy Knievel]

I listened to Logic Maybe today and fell asleep almost immediately, so it worked like a charm.

[mu4]

Well, even deaf people who rely on a visual language system like ASL organize their experience through language. Languaging is subtler and deeper than words. Images can be as much of a language as words. Unless you’ve been completely deprived of language (like Victor of Aveyron or Genie), your experience is definitely affected by the language you use. Heck, studies of children with incomplete language and also aphasics suggest that we need language to think certain thoughts and execute certain acts of logic. By your very ability to think of such a thing as a “visual thinker”, you’re using semantic and symbolic constructions particular to certain languages.

I certainly use language a lot and am a specialist in certain types of languages but unfortunately for prose I have the common problems visual thinkers have, which is something that I have talked with quite a few individuals about in my life. Take a look at his journal publication by a professor of journalism.

http://www.newsroom101.com/longleaf/...iteVisual.html

Table 1.

The Writing Problems of Visual Thinkers

1. Naming imprecise or lacking "The doohickey bollusked up my thingamajig." Broad, vague nouns and adjectives.

2. Words as labels for unseen pictures, labels for complex but unexplained thoughts. Effort to label large visual wholes at once, without analyzing them into their parts. Each verbal element seems to refer to more than it says; words have multiple or cryptic, rather than specific, meanings.
3. General fuzziness of language Words imprecise. Connections unclear. Syntax slippery. Words don't seem real to the writer. Has a "You know what I mean" quality.

4. Words used in a a private and eccentric manner, like decor. When asked, writer might reply, "That's just what I use the word to mean."

5. Few active verbs Passive voice. Unexplained appearances ("there is").

6. Overuse of "To Be" Leading to imprecise verbs, passive voice. Nothing moves, changes, or acts; everything "is."

7. Non-linear language Effort to express thought as clustered, stacked, layered, enfolded, rather than linear.

8. Descriptions static Not arranged in dynamic sequence. Reader does not have enough information to piece together the visualization required and must guess what the author means by a few labels.

9. Weak transitions and connectives Parts juxtaposed without being related. Reads like haiku or film script. "Dissolve," "jump cut," and "fade to black" would be appropriate transitions.
10. Undefined references "He did it to them." Dangling modifiers. Vague use of "this," "it," "thing," and other vague terms.
11. Poor organization Digressive. Gets lost in detail. Thought jumps around. Topic has not been analyzed, broken into chunks, and sequenced in a purposive manner.

12. Weak narrative Little sense of plot, conflict, drama, structure, buildup, climax. Referred to, but not told. Stated, but not argued.

13. Contextless No introduction. It is what it is; it is not defined by comparison with anything. Attempts to move visual into verbal through description or proclamation. May include vivid statement of opinion in isolation from other views and supporting evidence, a thought floating in space.

14. Aesthetic indiscrimination All details are equally important. Everything is everything else. Author does not take a position. Everything hangs in a mesh of undefined relationships. Bland, even, one-level quality to prose. No main point. Reads like a list.

I'm not really talking about visual languages like ASL either, but rather visual mechanisms of thought and it's differences.

What I've bolded directly relates to this topic. I want to note that good writing requires learning how to communicate verbally, but fundamentally individuals who display strong visual thinking may have difficulties thinking in a verbal manner.

I spent a lot of time pursuing an more active voice in my writings but to only some success, the same thing that makes me a good software engineer able to visualize large amount of data and source code in my head can also make my writing seems static and passive.

There is also a book on the topic as well which deals with the positives and negatives of visual thinking.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/In-.../9781573921558

Regardless, I think there is a great deal of advantage in pursuing a way of thinking that would produces passive verbalization using a lot of "to be" verbalization. However, I recommend hiring a editor or a ghost writer or collaborating with a verbal thinker when seeking to inform others if there are problems with writing due to though process issues.

[Korpsy Knievel]

I think visually too but this list strikes me as nothing more than excuses, especially as it describes problems that can occur, not those that invariably do.

[mu4]

I think visually too but this list strikes me as nothing more than excuses, especially as it describes problems that can occur, not those that invariably do.

What if you're a visual thinker with these problems... Anyways, you can always hire a writer/editor to help you. It's what people do when they're successful at other things and not great at writing.

[Korpsy Knievel]

What if you're a visual thinker with these problems... Anyways, you can always hire a writer/editor to help you. It's what people do when they're successful at other things and not great at writing.

In that case one could utilize E-prime to ameliorate or eliminate those enumerated problems, or consult the list itself to address its enumerated issues directly. While I understand the opportunity cost saved by hiring an editor or other writing assistant, in the interest of personal development I also remain mindful of the motto "Adapt, evolve, and overcome".

[Aquagraph]

Ask yourself what are we actually getting out of debating with Ryan?

Are we going to change his mind? At least to Gilly he said something that he could never be won in an argument ergo he is never willing to admit that he is wrong about something that Gilly is right about. Even if someone did convince him, Gilly probably agrees with that person and Ryan won't turn to that camp.

Are we just so proud that we have to retaliate everytime he does? Fine, I'm no better but I might want to swallow that pride.

Do we want to embarass him further? Please do. I'll soon get a new signature.

[mu4]

In that case one could utilize E-prime to ameliorate or eliminate those enumerated problems, or consult the list itself to address its enumerated issues directly. While I understand the opportunity cost saved by hiring an editor or other writing assistant, in the interest of personal development I also remain mindful of the motto "Adapt, evolve, and overcome".

Why E-Prime...

http://eideneurolearningblog.blogspo...-thinkers.html

Is is only language that guides how we think, or perhaps how we think guides our expression as well.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Why E-Prime...

Because that's the central topic we're discussing here.

[Ryan]

Ask yourself what are we actually getting out of debating with Ryan?

Are we going to change his mind? At least to Gilly he said something that he could never be won in an argument ergo he is never willing to admit that he is wrong about something that Gilly is right about. Even if someone did convince him, Gilly probably agrees with that person and Ryan won't turn to that camp.

Are we just so proud that we have to retaliate everytime he does? Fine, I'm no better but I might want to swallow that pride.

Do we want to embarass him further? Please do. I'll soon get a new signature.

explicate

[Aquagraph]

explicate

There is no use debating you other than we getting to kick your sorry ass.

[Gilly]

There is no use debating you other than we getting to kick your sorry ass.

Lol