Don't be a cosmic idiot

[mu4]

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I don't feel like I was making a personal attack; I'm sorry you're taking it that way, I felt I was being pretty neutral. Also I hardly see how I could be seen as "defensive" when I've openly stated I don't even use this technique.

You called me paranoid. That's a personal attack.

[mu4]

Look dude, I don't like being told what to do either, but it doesn't mean that people who lay out guidelines are trying to put an iron grip on your mind.



BUT HES JUST TELLING YOU TO BE OPEN AND ADAPTIVE SO HE CAN BRAINWASH YOU

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

He's just using the word "be" quite a bit. So "be" chill..

[ashlesha]

believing in E-prime

i'm curious why you worded it this way. whats to believe or not believe?

[mu4]

I didn't think my first post would get such a rabid response.

My experiences with NLP/E-Prime and linguistic manipulation with people that have undergone cult indoctrination gives me a distinct experience on how people have used this technique. I'm just putting it out there. Without a doubt cults have been attracted to it and techniques like it for various reasons. What surprises me is how how aggressive some individuals have become in the conversation due to the different views.

"I tend to find this sort of stuff like prohibition on using certain words thing as exercises like yoga/meditation."

I mean I said this at the beginning and it's how I think of this, there's nothing wrong with it, yet people keep reading it like that.

You're not a cosmic idiot for using "be" or whatever it is people are talking about.

[Animal]

One can say that different forms of communication orients to different forms of information. I'm a visual thinker not a linguistic thinker, and I translate to Chinese or English depending on what I do and who I'm talking to. I'm also a software engineer who knows a large number of programming languages which I have to use daily, all of which I use to model reality for public consumption. I don't use language to organize reality, since I think in pictures, I'm using language to translate my pictures which are very personal and hard to transmit.

Well, even deaf people who rely on a visual language system like ASL organize their experience through language. Languaging is subtler and deeper than words. Images can be as much of a language as words. Unless you’ve been completely deprived of language (like Victor of Aveyron or Genie), your experience is definitely affected by the language you use. Heck, studies of children with incomplete language and also aphasics suggest that we need language to think certain thoughts and execute certain acts of logic. By your very ability to think of such a thing as a “visual thinker”, you’re using semantic and symbolic constructions particular to certain languages.

I totally agree with you about writing technique and such.

Okay then.

[Ryan]

i'm curious why you worded it this way. whats to believe or not believe?

It's validity and the principles it promotes/based upon.

[ashlesha]

Ryan that says nothing, you really must not know what you're talking about.

[Ryan]

Ryan that says nothing, you really must not know what you're talking about.

Then refrain from asking me. These are not the answer you are looking for.

@Ashton, I don't think I will ever get back to you, so don't raise your hopes. There is lots to discuss, and like I said, I only posted here to talk about a certain part of the theory (?). I'm not interested in desputing it, really. For all I know, it could be true. But the path that it takes to get there is not for me. It's too loose, for a lack of a better word. I'm against many of the underlying principles that allow for E-prime to exist and as such I cannot take it seriously.

[ashlesha]

finding out if someone is worth listening to regarding a certain topic is one of the reasons i ask questions so i got what i was looking for.

[Ryan]

finding out if someone is worth listening to regarding a certain topic is one of the reasons i ask questions so i got what i was looking for.

Not really. You made that point on the first page. Keep repeating yourself and I will eventually ignore you.

[Gilly]

He's just using the word "be" quite a bit. So "be" chill..

Oh, he's using "to be," this means he's not brainwashing.

GOD IT WAS RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF ME ALL ALONG

Seriously though, do you not see how your line of shoddy reasoning you use to critique E' can equally be used to find Bruce Lee's teachings suspect? Just, please, be objective, is all I'm asking.

[Gilly]

You called me paranoid. That's a personal attack.

No, its an observation. I actually do believe that your irrational suspicion is affecting your judgment. That may feel insulting to you, but from me, its just an observation.

[Gilly]

Not really. You made that point on the first page. Keep repeating yourself and I will eventually ignore you.

Your ability to have an argument without having a stance of any substance is truly fascinating to me.

[Ryan]

Your ability to have an argument without having a stance of any substance is truly fascinating to me.

That speaks of your level of intelligence. Watch and learn.

[Gilly]

That speaks of your level of intelligence. Watch and learn.

omg lol I want to throw up so badly right now

[ashlesha]

lmao

[Ryan]

omg lol I want to throw up so badly right now

Explicate.

[Absurd]

[Absurd]

Are you Roman, Ryan?

[Gilly]

Explicate.

Its just...your avatar, the way you worded that post, your whole attitude...I'm sorry but

LOL

[Korpsy Knievel]

I've changed my typing of Ryan to XEI, Dunning-Kruger subtype.

[Ryan]

Are you Roman, Ryan?

Somewhat.

Its just...your avatar, the way you worded that post, your whole attitude...I'm sorry but

LOL

I see. And your previous post, "Your ability to have an argument without having a stance of any substance is truly fascinating to me." What are you talking about? Where is that coming from?

I've changed my typing of Ryan to XEI, Dunning-Kruger subtype.

Holy shit, this is the first time someone disputed my typing. I guess, I wasn't controversial enough.

[Absurd]

Somewhat.

What kind of an answer is that?

[Gilly]

Somewhat.

I see. And your previous post, "Your ability to have an argument without having a stance of any substance is truly fascinating to me." What are you talking about? Where is that coming from?

Your posts in this thread.

[Absurd]

I've changed my typings as well. I'm doing socionics.

Funny how such a harmless thread like this evolved into battle-typing, once again.

Heil Socionics, Heil Caesar.

I would like to know whether or not some of you people think about socionics when relieving yourself. Hkkmr, there 'be' a cult

[Ryan]

Your posts in this thread.

I was hoping that you were referring to my last reply to lungs as well, were you?

[Absurd]

Lungs knows what's going on. I hope.

[Gilly]

I was hoping that you were referring to my last reply to lungs as well, were you?

I'm referring to your attitude throughout the thread towards Wilson's ideas. You just make yourself out to be irrationally resistant to these concepts.

[Ryan]

I've changed my typings as well. I'm doing socionics.

Funny how such a harmless thread like this evolved into battle-typing, once again.

Heil Socionics, Heil Caesar.

I would like to know whether or not some of you people think about socionics when relieving yourself. Hkkmr, there 'be' a cult

I didn't think I'd enjoy this thread that much. I had no idea k0rpsy even typed me to begin with, and apparently now he is changing his typing of me, lol.

I'm referring to your attitude throughout the thread towards Wilson's ideas. You just make yourself out to be irrationally resistant to these concepts.

I'll keep that in mind. On an unrelated note, you're very gullible, aren't you?

[ashlesha]

my post on the first page was referencing aqua saying you either get it or you don't. are you seriously nitpicking that?

[Absurd]

I didn't think I'd enjoy this thread that much. I had no idea k0rpsy even typed me to begin with, and apparently now he is changing his typing of me, lol.

Looks like it was his intention from the beginning, not to change your type, but you to enjoy it, wasn't it?

[Creepy-pokeball]

Jesus what crawled up your ass dude

Christ :[

[Absurd]

Christ :[

God commands us not to use His name in vain, infidel.

[Gilly]

I'll keep that in mind. On an unrelated note, you're very gullible, aren't you?

No, but I am well aware that you're trying your darnedest to troll me, and are failing miserably

[Creepy-pokeball]

God commands us not to use His name in vain, infidel.

[Ryan]

No, but I am well aware that you're trying your darnedest to troll me, and are failing miserably

Really? I've already changed your tone and made the subject of our conversation about you. It doesn't take much for me to trick you. Keep that in mind next time you talk about such trivial matters such as E-prime when you fail to even account for a small amount of what it teaches.

[Absurd]

Pic

You're so ddd dd umm b, I just can't obtain any satisfaction from replying to you. Excuse me for having high standards.

Oh shit. I used 'you're' again in my sentence.

[Creepy-pokeball]

You're so ddd dd umm b, I just can't obtain any satisfaction from replying to you. Excuse me for having high standards.

Oh shit. I used 'you're' again in my sentence.

Do you want a spanking for your errorz?

[Absurd]

Do you want a spanking for your errorz?

I do. God is on my side...

[Gilly]

Really? I've already changed your tone and made the subject of our conversation about you. It doesn't take much for me to trick you. Keep that in mind next time you talk about such trivial matters such as E-prime when you fail to even account for a small amount of what it teaches.

Sigh...

Its sad to see you take pride in such small victories, when you clearly only felt the need to make such attempts as a result of feeling inadequate.

Wash, rinse, repeat...