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    No.

    You are affectionate, adorable and playful. Just like an alpha. You are also cute and ambivalent.

    A Gamma is inherently more serious and biting. Even the esfps, who I get along on great with.

    Not an ILE though cuz you lack the Fi polr sort of assholeness. Though you can be ass-y at times. just not in the fi polr way, bah.

    I'm curious what caused this identity crisis of sorts?

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    They actually do "match up" fine. Depending on what fine means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    The fact you phrase it this way proves you're LII. Or at least Alpha NT, as opposed to Gamma NT.
    a gamma NT would ask like this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post

    Theoretically there's a 'CHANCE' I could be ILI also.
    oh fuck you
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Socionics and its toll, Pirate and, and, and.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    I'm curious what caused this identity crisis of sorts?
    Big 5's Conscientiousness dichotomy + my perception of ESI as High conscientiousness + obsessive compulsive need to combine all the type theories + major confusion over socionics judging/perceiving

    Pretty much just discarded socionics descriptions, functions, and inter-type relations in favor of dichotomy match-ups, only because I find them simpler to work with. But the big picture descriptions seem to work better in the long term.
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    Sadly I don't think this stuff could ever be simple. Our own identities are these unique deep wells of snowflake uniqueness and complexity with many intricate paths woven together with both the viciousness and the grace of a spider.

    I see you as intj, because overall you are good hearted in the way intjs are. I'm not saying that other types can't be 'good-hearted' it's just less pure or something. I mean I know it's crude, and I don't want to morally judge intps too harshly or anything but you just come across less as a 'dick' than them. You are ambivalent though but it does seem to genuinely annoy you when people get too hateful.

    It's hard to know how you are objectively beaming so maybe you don't know this about yourself. You radiate the aura of a smart but playful alpha dude that wants Fe. And clearly introverted. yeah yeah blah blah I know classical intro/extro doesn't always relate to socionics version but suck my cock. He isn't entp lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    You radiate the aura of a smart but playful alpha dude that wants Fe. And clearly introverted. yeah yeah blah blah I know classical intro/extro doesn't always relate to socionics version but suck my cock. He isn't entp lol.
    yeah, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Sadly I don't think this stuff could ever be simple. Our own identities are these unique deep wells of snowflake uniqueness and complexity with many intricate paths woven together with both the viciousness and the grace of a spider.

    I see you as intj, because overall you are good hearted in the way intjs are. I'm not saying that other types can't be 'good-hearted' it's just less pure or something. I mean I know it's crude, and I don't want to morally judge intps too harshly or anything but you just come across less as a 'dick' than them. You are ambivalent though but it does seem to genuinely annoy you when people get too hateful.

    It's hard to know how you are objectively beaming so maybe you don't know this about yourself. You radiate the aura of a smart but playful alpha dude that wants Fe. And clearly introverted. yeah yeah blah blah I know classical intro/extro doesn't always relate to socionics version but suck my cock. He isn't entp lol.
    awwwwwwww, thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    a gamma NT would ask like this:

    I love that movie, I would be sort of inclined to think walter is some not Fi valuing type though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    I love that movie, I would be sort of inclined to think walter is some not Fi valuing type though.
    played by an ISTp. the character probably doesn't value either ethical function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    played by an ISTp. the character probably doesn't value either ethical function.
    You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me.
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    i have plenty, thanks. you can hang on to your toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    i have plenty, thanks. you can hang on to your toes.
    Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These fucking amateurs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    played by an ISTp. the character probably doesn't value either ethical function.
    You mean doesn't have either ethical function in their ego? Because you have to value either Fi or Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    You mean doesn't have either ethical function in their ego? Because you have to value either Fi or Fe.
    Well it can sometimes be the case that fictional characters are so far removed from reality that they no longer fit into systems designed to interact with reality, like socionics. You could say these characters are poorly written, which might be true in some cases, in other cases they are purposely removed from actual observable behavior to make a point. This often happens in comedy where the point is generally a joke, which could perhaps have it's own point. In this case I think Walter is exaggerated for the sake of humor. That being said I also think that he isn't removed enough from reality to have a complete non-interaction with socionics. Labster might disagree with me on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    You mean doesn't have either ethical function in their ego? Because you have to value either Fi or Fe.
    Walter Schobak is the exception to that rule. believe me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ausPKEMVk0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
    Please, PROVE ME WRONG
    Are you teasing the LIE's again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    Walter Schobak is the exception to that rule. believe me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ausPKEMVk0
    Thank you for that educational, insightful 90 seconds of Youtube material. My life is now more fulfilled.

    BTW I can see him being Fe-valuing, how expressive he is, and annoyed that others didn't follow objective norms, so he's lashing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulletsAndDoves View Post
    Sadly I don't think this stuff could ever be simple. Our own identities are these unique deep wells of snowflake uniqueness and complexity with many intricate paths woven together with both the viciousness and the grace of a spider.

    I see you as intj, because overall you are good hearted in the way intjs are. I'm not saying that other types can't be 'good-hearted' it's just less pure or something. I mean I know it's crude, and I don't want to morally judge intps too harshly or anything but you just come across less as a 'dick' than them. You are ambivalent though but it does seem to genuinely annoy you when people get too hateful.

    It's hard to know how you are objectively beaming so maybe you don't know this about yourself. You radiate the aura of a smart but playful alpha dude that wants Fe. And clearly introverted. yeah yeah blah blah I know classical intro/extro doesn't always relate to socionics version but suck my cock. He isn't entp lol.
    Come on, honey. You're supposed to "prove him wrong"
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    There's something to it actually. I just realised I'm posting on a socionics forum. Hmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    Thank you for that educational, insightful 90 seconds of Youtube material. My life is now more fulfilled.

    BTW I can see him being Fe-valuing, how expressive he is, and annoyed that others didn't follow objective norms, so he's lashing out.
    the most sensible typing is to say he's the same type has his actor, which is ISTp. so not just not Fe valuing, but Fe PoLR.

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    Perhaps a better typing for John Goodman would be ILE.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Perhaps a better typing for John Goodman would be ILE.
    disastrously wrong. typings don't get more fucked up than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Perhaps a better typing for John Goodman would be ILE.
    disastrously wrong. typings don't get more fucked up than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labster View Post
    the most sensible typing is to say he's the same type has his actor, which is ISTp. so not just not Fe valuing, but Fe PoLR.
    Meh, not really worth it to debate fictional characters from movies/novels, because their personality isn't strict.

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