DJ Arendee's Type me Bonanza Blowout

[blackburry]

I'm also unaware of my gut IN THE MOMENT. So if something shady is going on, I won't realize it until I sit down and my gut feelings start to surface. I have a habit of ignoring my gut intuitions, even though they're very frequently correct. Personally I would attribute this to the fact that my INTp brother and mother are completely full of shit in almost everything they say and I absolutely don't want to be like them. (Ni doms) So I ignore my Ni a lot.
I'm gonna start being a judgemental prick like they are and voice my first intuition for now on, and see where that leads me.

dude, being an instinct E precisely means you follow your gut. you feel it, can't ignore it. it drives you for better or worse.

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[Absurd]

Oh yeah those are easy. Likes and dislikes are easy. I like cheese, I like ice cream, I hate peas.

That falls under "i can tell you what I do, and have done, and plan to do."

However the things i cannot tell you are internal things, "I react this way when someone does this to me because it makes me feel X." or "I view the world through a lense that I shape according to X." I can't tell you things like that because I don't know what's going on inside.

Are you shitting me? Anyway, was a great read.

[ashlesha]

However the things i cannot tell you are internal things, "I react this way when someone does this to me because it makes me feel X." or "I view the world through a lense that I shape according to X." I can't tell you things like that because I don't know what's going on inside.

fwiw i get frustrated when i'm expected to come up with stuff like that and ive thought of it as weak ne.

honestly the only things that keep me entertaining entj are your demeanor on cam and other peoples typings of you. estp isn't perfect either but i'm feeling that more.

i can't really be bothered to pick that apart into reasons. you seem kind of immature, like you feel sorry for yourself a lot and blame other people for your problems. it rubs me the wrong way. so i'm biased. i kind of feel for your mom, she wants you to take care of yourself with a job and you make her out to be the enemy. stereotypically her response wouldn't be so unusual for an isfj.

[Roro]

you seem kind of immature, like you feel sorry for yourself a lot and blame other people for your problems. it rubs me the wrong way. so i'm biased. i kind of feel for your mom, she wants you to take care of yourself with a job and you make her out to be the enemy. stereotypically her response wouldn't be so unusual for an isfj.

I kind of agree with this. If I remember correctly, you're recently out of the military, DJ, yes? I think you're still trying to find your "place" and this is causing you to have kind of distorted self-awareness in a way.

That's another reason I previously mentioned your post regarding your family. I don't think that they are trying to bring you down, I think that they're trying to help you see things from a more realistic perspective. You met a billionaire at a nightclub and instantly exploded with enthusiasm. That's great. It could make for a great opportunity. But if I were your mom, I would say the same thing: proceed with caution. Have a backup plan. Meeting a billionaire doesn't necessarily mean anything, so it would be wise to have something going just in case.

I like to voice my thoughts with people. I'm an extrovert, its what I do. I tell them "I think I might be an ENTJ and here's why, what do you think?" And then I'll get some tirade on why I'm constantly seeking validation or whatever. I talk about how I found a method to make 20k per month and ask my brother, "what do you think of this idea?" and he'll tell me something else like, "figure it out for yourself" or whatever.

I'm a middle child, and middle children are known to be attention starved validation seekers. I wonder if this has something to do with it. If it does, I'm not even aware I'm doing it. They tell me I need to think for myself which just makes me angry because I don't like making mistakes, and often times don't have the experience they have with what I'm talking about. Its like my approach is wrong or something.

Of course you seek validation, and it seems your family is your primary support method, they are where you get your sense of security from. When they down your ideas, how do you then approach them? What happened with the nightclub billionaire? Are you still in touch with him/going to pursue that? What about that plan to make $20k/month, how is that working out right now?

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[Radio]

ftr I didn't meet him at a nightclub, I met him at a real estate club. We talked on the phone 2 days ago, he gave me criteria on where to search for properties. I am now essentially working for him. The 20k per month hasn't happened yet, that is a goal that I aim for in the next 5 months. I no longer talk to my family, at least not until my first goal of 1 sale is achieved or I feel like their negativity isn't going to ruin any necessary motivation I have and need to get this thing kicked off the ground.

Blaming everyone else for my problems? When I'm happy as can be for the first time in my life and going after my dreams and my family gets on my case for everything, and my best friends support me 100%. What is there for me to change? I've been changing myself to meet their demands for the last 20 years and its only made me act depressed, sheltered, needy and childish. We're done talking about my family because this is pissing me the fuck off. You guys don't know me or my family well enough to make those kind of judgements or take sides.

> wa wa waaaa i don't wanna be a 6 waaa cue bratty ungrateful entitlement complex guys i'm gonna be sooo rich and you'll be sooo jealous of all my money that i'm gonna get for practically achieving nothing in life TOUGH GUY POSE sleazy remark towards member of opposite sex except when they don't pay attention to you then WHOOPS i'm way too cool for you and you obviously resent me because i think ur ugly boohoo PAY ATTENTION TO MY STRAIGHT GUY ANTICSSS i don't understand what you're saying so i'm going to pretend like i'm too cool for you booyah ur all losers with no lives lolz COMPENSATION FOR INSECURITTTYY god i love myself but i hate narcissists let me say that again i hate narcissists DO I LOOK TOUGH YET 8 8 8 8 8

[mu4]

I would say you are going thru a "quarter life crisis" sort of event DJ, and probably are still reforming your sense of self at this point. The leaving of the Navy, the unemployment, the distancing from your parents. I would caution that you be wary of scams in business, especially something like a "real estate club". I don't know the details on this, so let me know if I misread something. If you want to succeed in life it's going to be shitty. Not telling you to be a bank teller, but everything that sounds like a get rich quick scheme is generally going to be morally bankrupt. Unless you figure out how to do it yourself, nobody's helping anyone "get rich" without first getting their slice, generally much bigger than they deserve.

Anyways, good luck with work and achieving independence and all that but have a contingency plan.

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[Absurd]

yes. my declarations of "I hate brown" and "i like math and science" are objective observations of my past behaviors and subjects I've done most well in. I don' t know what's so hard for you to understand.

The fact that you find hard to grasp anything theoretical. Stay in gamma and do not move a muscle.

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[Absurd]

@Absurd... wot? coming from you its hard to tell if that's sarcasm or not.

Coming from me it is hard to tell whether I'm going to bust your teeth in or not. And stay in gamma. You have your identical right there, replying to you and your dual.

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[ashlesha]

i wasn't typing her.

[Gilly]

I'm also unaware of my gut IN THE MOMENT. So if something shady is going on, I won't realize it until I sit down and my gut feelings start to surface. I have a habit of ignoring my gut intuitions, even though they're very frequently correct. Personally I would attribute this to the fact that my INTp brother and mother are completely full of shit in almost everything they say and I absolutely don't want to be like them. (Ni doms) So I ignore my Ni a lot.

I'm gonna start being a judgemental prick like they are and voice my first intuition for now on, and see where that leads me.

More evidence for Head triad here...

ok. I've decided I'll pretend to be ESTp some more to see what happens. I think I typed myself as ENTj because I like to know what I'm getting into before I do it, which didn't seem ESTp to me. Either that or I was being a tard and changed my type so that I'd be the dual of ESI's, because I love almost every ESI I've met, and I match the ENTj erotic attitude much more than the ESTp one... although the ESTp erotic attitude sounds really really easy to do. Just keep asking the girl out until they give in.

Do ESTp's tend to feel like awkward monsters? Like bigfoot? Cuz I feel like that's how I interact with people. I make stupid one liner jokes about the other person and the majority of they time they react negatively. If they don't then we're best friends.

A lot of things i say are offensive to everyone always.

I feel like I come in and yell PRETTY KITTY! and scare away all the pretty little kitties, then say things to people like telling hitta he looks like someone who should be buttraping all the children in an orphanage.

Here's a toast to my credibility.

lol SLEs definitely do this, so maybe we're on the right track here. And yeah, you're probably not a 3; this seems pretty genuine, the bit about being unaware of people etc.

Watching the OMG ENTj/LIE video again, interestingly enough I'm reminded of an LSI friend and an ILE friend...The kind of casually calculating vibe I get from him fits with SLE, he really seems more focused and rapid than any ILEs I've ever encountered.

Watching the video of crazy breakdancing gymnastics stuff, your movements and bodily composure remind me of an odd combination between the aforementioned LSI friend, and strrrng.

ILE and SLE are the only types I can keep on the table at this point, your self-professed hamfisted social approach and the slight aura of "whatever" about you can only mean ethics PoLR IMO, and you seem like an extrovert.

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[ashlesha]

you said her response wouldn't be so unusual for an ISFj. It sounded to me like you were implying she was an ISFj, or saying something out of butthurt because you're still pissed that I said I'm not attracted to you and you know I love ISFj's. Who cares if I rub you the wrong way, keep it to yourself.

all you said is that i looked like the type of girls that pursue you but you don't respond, and that i look like a "thinker." i inferred that this meant you weren't attracted to me since you idealize isfjs so much, and it looks like i was right about that. i'm not attracted to you either and it could be relevant to your type because its more about personality. look, i'm not trying to get you to face your own flaws cuz you're obviously not the type to do that very quickly and especially not cuz some random on the internet pointed them out. i just brought them up cuz, well, i CAN, and because maybe my perception of you matters for typing.

ftr you responding like this isn't making me feel inclined to keep my opinions of you to myself.

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[FDG]

Generally speaking, discussing with parents about career perspectives is a really bad idea.

[Absurd]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Absurd]

How do you know you're on a socionics forum?

[Roro]

Well, we don't need to mention the family anymore then. I was trying to point out that, if you don't want to be seriously fucked over, it's best to take in multiple perspectives, have back-up plans, etc. What's that saying - "hope for the best, expect the worst." I'm all for your optimism, just don't let it get in the way of reality.

FTR, I highly doubt you're LIE.

[Absurd]

My favourite subject is: Real.

[Absurd]

I thought BnD wrote that first but nice touch, indeed.

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[Absurd]

@Absurd... I never know anything it is you're saying or in what context.

I have sublime morning coffee never walked socionics I've been there milk yes yes yes my parerents are, thank you delicous, Christmas obnoxious.

[Radio]

@Radio... I'm sorry if you feel left out in all of this excitement. But I think you pretty much nailed it on the head there.

lol now i feel bad, i'm sorry for being mean-spirited.

[Absurd]

Wait till Radio blesses you with his gay talk, you're going to wish you were Delta.

@Absurd... I never know anything it is you're saying or in what context. You really need to use complete sentences with proper subjects and predicates.

Editing your posts like crazie rat won't bring you far at all, I can death you no matter how many of yous are there inside and I really do not know what complete sentences are nor, what the fuck, predicates. Is that even English language? For fucks sake, I can't pronounce that.

Okay, I delegate you to the Mountain Dew/Snaps Department, officially. No matter what quadra - not delta.

[Pa3s]

Okay, I delegate you to the Mountain Dew/Snaps Department, officially.

Hm, I was thinking the same. I just don't know if this is only influenced by superficial impressions or if it actually makes sense.

[Absurd]

Hm, I was thinking the same. I just don't know if this is only influenced by superficial impressions or if it actually makes sense.

Great minds think alike...

But seriously, if this guy is anything else than beta or gamma, I am the lord of flies. Either way, delta quadra is well protected and has the best security in the world so, worry not.

[Azure Flame]

I don't get it. You're officially ignored due to incomprehensible gibberish.

[Absurd]

I don't get it. You're officially ignored due to incomprehensible gibberish.

Ignore me permanently like Maritsa over 7 or 9 times.

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[Bardia]

ok so I thought about some things. I'm just really lonely. That's why I look toward my family, etc. But they don't want to talk about anything going on in my life. They don't want to talk about psychology. They don't like any of my music. They think I talk about video games too much. They think I talk about money and business too much. They think I talk about socionics and mbti too much. No one wants to listen. It may just be a reciprocal thing because I find NOTHING in their life interesting, that's why I moved to colorado.

Any insecurity right now is because I come to this forum to talk to people but am unprepared to deal with the harsh criticality that I'm actually asking people to give me.

I'm unemployed, trying to start a business in a state where I only have 4 friends who get off after 11pm. I'm lonely and depressed. I say we just leave it at that and stop talking about how insecure I am because this really isn't what I'm looking for at the moment. In fact there's no point in starting this topic because... we all know my mind isn't going to change. I guess I'm just starting conversation and the topic happens to be about me or something. go me.

Unfortunately, this is not an empathetic or encouraging place much anymore unless you already have established social relationships with some of the regular forum members. You are likely to get just what you got: bitched at. A lot of people here I think are in a similar boat as you but aren't able to see how people are often doing the best they can given their resources/upbringing/etc... They suffer but don't have much empathy. It might be beneficial to block some people or attempt not to get emotional over some of the things said here.

I'm sorry that you feel lonely and depressed. It sounds like you are doing better than you used to and that you are heading in a good direction so thats good. You just have to play the waiting game, which sucks, but as long as you keep the end goal in sight you will do okay. Sounds like maybe you just need to work on making so more friends and making sure you get out of the house and stuff. You might like the chatbox or tinychat better because it is a bit more social and its easier to really get to know members better.

As for your type, my guess is Gamma Extrovert with a chance of ESI.

[ashlesha]

Unfortunately, this is not an empathetic or encouraging place much anymore unless you already have established social relationships with some of the regular forum members. You are likely to get just what you got: bitched at.

in order for this to be true it would mean that everybody who doesn't have an "established social relationship" gets bitched at. its just false. nice of you to take pity on him and all but you don't have to get on a high horse to do so. my opinion about him is as valid as yours. maybe you don't realize your attempts at "empathizing" tend to fall flat because you sound so proud of yourself while you're doing it. its like its more for yourself than for the other person.

and why should everyone be empathetic and encouraging towards everybody? go away.

[Bardia]

in order for this to be true it would mean that everybody who doesn't have an "established social relationship" gets bitched at. its just false. nice of you to take pity on him and all but you don't have to get on a high horse to do so. my opinion about him is as valid as yours. maybe you don't realize your attempts at "empathizing" tend to fall flat because you sound so proud of yourself while you're doing it. its like its more for yourself than for the other person.

and why should everyone be empathetic and encouraging towards everybody? go away.

You quite obviously just don't like me and this colors your view of absolutely everything I say. I don't empathize with others for myself. That doesn't make any sense. Just put me on ignore already. I've been around the forum for a while and leaving because you say I should is laughable. It's not going to happen.

[blackburry]

ok so I thought about some things. I'm just really lonely. That's why I look toward my family, etc. But they don't want to talk about anything going on in my life. They don't want to talk about psychology. They don't like any of my music. They think I talk about video games too much. They think I talk about money and business too much. They think I talk about socionics and mbti too much. No one wants to listen. It may just be a reciprocal thing because I find NOTHING in their life interesting, that's why I moved to colorado.

Any insecurity right now is because I come to this forum to talk to people but am unprepared to deal with the harsh criticality that I'm actually asking people to give me.

I'm unemployed, trying to start a business in a state where I only have 4 friends who get off after 11pm. I'm lonely and depressed. I say we just leave it at that and stop talking about how insecure I am because this really isn't what I'm looking for at the moment. In fact there's no point in starting this topic because... we all know my mind isn't going to change. I guess I'm just starting conversation and the topic happens to be about me or something. go me.

UGHHHHHHH you are extremely frustrating to talk to.

You are the one that started down this "insecurity" topic's path. I WAS COMMENTING ON THIS: ps: the typewatch people think no one is an 8 until proven otherwise, and get seemingly upset, belligerent even, when someone suggests they're an 8 but aren't really sure themselves. That was my complaint. I sense some kind of insecurity from most of their posts which makes me further believe they're full of shit. Something you completely pulled out of your ass.
I do have empathy, but you make personal attacks towards other people and it grates on my nerves when you suddenly rationalize it by playing all misunderstood victim.
Sry life sucks for at the moment, really we've all been there, but stop pulling crap out of your ass and then maybe I could respect your rationale on things?

Now that someone mentioned LII........hmmmmm.......
@lungs hahahahahahahah i like you ^^

[marooned]

My impression... I think you seem Te and Se valuing... and irrational. I'm wondering about ILI in a way. I can't tell if the things that sound like strong Se are more of a super-id thing or not.

The thing about Te is that it's a dynamic IME. And I kind of suspect the things about yourself in this thread you're saying are Te, are Te.

[ashlesha]

My impression... I think you seem Te and Se valuing... and irrational. I'm wondering about ILI in a way. I can't tell if the things that sound like strong Se are more of a super-id thing or not.

The thing about Te is that it's a dynamic IME. And I kind of suspect the things about yourself in this thread you're saying are Te, are Te.

an ILI who chases risky endeavors and considers it mean and dream crushing when people try to bring him to earth? if irrational gamma, I could more easily see SEE.

super id Se is the most convincing argument for me to consider LIE though. I could very easily see Se HA.

[strangeling]

Hey, what did you do in the military? I'd love to hear about it if you want to mention it. I've been considering joining the Air Force as an officer, if they will take an electrical engineer. I've been reading up a lot on the problems associated with the military in general and each branch and I'd love to hear anything you have to say about it. It might even be relevant to your thread.