I know I made a self-type thread not too long ago but nobody took it seriously.
plus everybody else was doing it so
do eet
EDIT: merry 5,555th post, one and all
I know I made a self-type thread not too long ago but nobody took it seriously.
plus everybody else was doing it so
do eet
EDIT: merry 5,555th post, one and all
Last edited by Galen; 05-25-2012 at 05:49 AM.
Definitely Delta NF and probably also IEE.
But I have to agree with jessica that your focus on Fi is kinda suspicous and it might surpass pure subtype affinity.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
i've never thought you come across as particularly IEE ish, but i'm not sure what else to suggest. probably something introverted based on what little transfers to me through the wires.
i'd probably still go with IEE when forced to choose, though.
you and i are a lot alike Galen, but I could potentially see you as EII...
Then again, apparently a lot of gurus here think i'm Ne-sub, and if you're Fi-sub that could explain the slightly different demeanors.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
WHY DOES GOOGLE RETURN NO IMAGES OF FLAMING SHEEP
DISAPPOINT
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
As I said in other thread, IEE is my first choice for you, EII second if you aren't IEE.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
Why do you sound surprised
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
On the other hand, whatever we expect, we are asking for, so...
SHUT THE FUCK UP
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I'm not always even trying to be inflammatory, lol, I think I just go for the big shit so it usually erupts in some way
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
lol... and there it is...
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
Idk, to me your avatar says it all, lol...you are pretty clearly peak Si/Ne valuing, IMO. Galen doesn't mind conflict so much, he is a bit of an artful dodger but he doesn't really get flustered when people use strong language and such, this is one of the things that weirds me about about peak Fi/Te people, it's like some things don't phase them in this more deadening kind of way, whereas you don't seem Fe valuing, but are a little more...maneuverable, I guess, from an emotional standpoint, in interaction.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
Sorry i missed this post for a while... r u talking to me, @Gilly?
Oh and yeah i noticed those differences between myself and Galen too..
what do you mean by "peak" if I may ask?
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I think a person,s view of subtype would depend on what specifically they are noticing.
For example, Gilly seems to say you are Ne subtype because you are more Xe oriented.
Yet, someone like me might consider you as maybe Fi subtype because you are more ethical/relational oriented than abstract/intuitive oriented.
Gilly also seems to look at something he refers to as peak Fi/Te.
While I tend to look at something I refer to as Ne/Te; while also considering Fi subtype to more fluidly utilize Se mode as needed.
Knowing these differences in views regarding subtype might be confusing, but it'll help you get a clearer picture of what the person is referring to, and then choose how accurate that seems to apply to you.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
I think Fi-IEE fits you best based on my view of subtype theory in that Fi-IEEs tend to have stronger /// as opposed to Ne-IEEs that have stronger /// and you seem to lean towards the subtype functions imo. So in a sense that makes you an IEE that is more SEE like as opposed to ILE like. I also think it's one reasons why people confused you for being an ESE before.
@Galen: I think Fi-IEE fits you well and the differences between you and other IEEs could be non-socionics related, such as enneatype, instinctual stacking and perhaps upbringing as well, which can play a major role. The only other possibility I can see is probably Fi-EII for the same reason that Jessica mentioned that you value more than . I even notice a bit of a resemblance between you and Radio, which may or may not be type related.
Last edited by Raver; 06-02-2012 at 08:45 PM.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
It is no longer May 24th, 2012. Does that mean your type as of today is potentially different?
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
Looks like the cogs in the internet machine have been spinning rapidly as I slept~
My issue is more that most EP descriptions out there do a really shitty job at conveying the many possible facets of EPhood, so it was kinda hard for me to identify with EP when accusations of ENXp started getting thrown around. In terms of energy fluctuations though, I think I'm very much irrational.
Good to see that these things are mutually exclusive lol
I do agree that WA is more overtly expressive and flighty than me. And to the best of my knowledge, I'm the only IEE 6w5 on here, which probably colors my affect and presentation in ways uncharacteristic for most people's conceptions of IEEs.
You tell me
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
First off, Galen seems to be the poster boy for "constructivism" - he has so many emotional anchors they seem to define him as a person. We all know about his fixation on the Disney movie (Lion King) and he is strongly anchored emotionally to Japan, and even then, he is anchored to a special night in Japan when he had an important epiphany. He is anchored to particular dishes of Japanease food. That is not a Reinin trait found in the IEE. No, it is found in the EII and EIEs.
I consider Galen to be my "supervisor" - whatever type I am, it is the type Galen (and Radio) supervises. If I am what Radio claims (a "milquetoast" Ti-ILE) then Galen should be a EII, supervising his ILE.
Furthermore, the fact that he is "re-imagining" the EP temperment is evidence that something is amiss in his self typing. You should not have to produce a "revisionist" interpetation of a temperment to make it fit. He is attempting to hammer his IP temperment into a place it does not belong.
Last edited by Saberstorm; 05-30-2012 at 04:17 AM.
Socionics -
the16types.info
Heh. Great observation. Something along those lines happened today when I was telling this manager how he shouldn't give a shit if people attack and distrust him verbally, as long as he is confident in his integrity and the things his employees might assume and/or say about/to him present no actual danger. He was surprised at how indifferent I can be about certain things and very sensitive about others. He thinks I have my priorities a little messed up, but I think he's a little unwilling to admit that I just have a different way of looking at things. And that my approach is more rational and usually yields better results in practice than his version of fairness and appropriatness.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
I've always found a certain familiarity in your posts, the things you say sound like things I would say if I was less neurotic and wasn't straining to pull myself out of my comfort zone, which is not to say you're stilted or anything, just that you seem comfortable in your own skin.
I think you're definitely Fi ego, and despite keeping a certain ironic distance you have been instantly very personable on irc, which is cool.
I dont think your brand of Ne is INFj-centric and while ENFp wouldn't be the first type that comes to mind, it fits a lot better than Ne-creative which i think is more detached and self-contained. You seem to have a harder time dissociating from your environment and seem at ease describing things outside of yourself which is a more extroverted trait in my mind.
You are kind of similar, I think, to Slacker in that you are both often very passionate and have a bit more flair than other delta NFs. So I think Fi-ENFp 6w5 sx/sp is a fine typing.
Galen Retriever.
But I love intellectual self-effacement and extended grammatical constructs, I do them all the time
I kinda find that with Ne-valuing rationals, their use of Ne is very consciously manipulated. It's as if they meticulously choose the right quip to bring up specific to the situation they're presenting, as opposed to the idea being spontaneously generated out of the aether. My Ne-HA dad does things like this a lot, except he does it with terrible (note: terrible) puns.
edited for blah.
Last edited by strangeling; 07-20-2012 at 08:49 PM.
good bye
I get this from you too, I find that we both focus on similar things in people and come to similar conclusions because of it. Thinking in landscapes, etc.
I would like to imagine that the distance is a product of my internet upbringing, on a forum where there are no feelings and everything is sarcasm all the time. Still, being positive and playful is kind of a drain on me when it's all over, and I'd much rather be able to just sit with somebody and talk about our lives without the pressure of having to emote or intellectualize my feelings.
ftr, what would be the first type to come to mind?
Interesting; I've always felt like I talk about myself too much.
Which post was this?
I'm generally most critical of what people say when they aren't expressing their ideas in as precise a manner as possible, getting awash in generalizations instead of detailing their words carefully ("weak" Te-valuing mayhaps).
edited because no one really cares.
Last edited by strangeling; 07-20-2012 at 08:46 PM.
good bye
At least quadra-wise, I think it's fair to say that Delta is your home planet. If not, I'd have to think about what Delta actually is. I can see the similarities between you and Radio, too. For example your sense of humour. Fi over Fe is obvious, as other people stated before... yeah, you do like your Fi. Maybe you hate Fe?
I think I have read it before in a recent thread, but ever thought of SLI?
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Gosh, I say so many stupid and irrelevant things when I post before going to bed, lol.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly