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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Primarily because people sleep at different times. It doesn't fit.
    But this is one way in which you devalue and value ; you're looking at something specific that doesn't fit into that chart, while the chart explains things in a general or "rough" explanation, hence those who value are likely to find it interesting; they can take a chart like this and apply it to a general not specific cases.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    But this is one way in which you devalue and value ; you're looking at something specific that doesn't fit into that chart, while the chart explains things in a general or "rough" explanation, hence those who value are likely to find it interesting; they can take a chart like this and apply it to a general not specific cases.
    I'm not valuing Se. I'm valuing Te. This chart doesn't fit my schedule. It doesn't fit me. It is wrong. If it is wrong, it is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    If it is wrong, it is bad.
    Dangerous words to live by

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    I'm not valuing Se. I'm valuing Te. This chart doesn't fit my schedule. It doesn't fit me. It is wrong. If it is wrong, it is bad.
    First of all Te doesn't make hard and fast rules like that that are based on static information like a chart. Te judges how well something works and Te with Ne valuing looks at the general way in which something can be applied to the outer workings of things. Te judges the mechanics (dyamics) of what is observed in the HOWs "t shows how all of these seemingly random ideas relate"; Ne valuing sees the novel and new connection between ideas, hence "it connects the three spectrums of testosterone together"

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    First of all Te doesn't make hard and fast rules like that that are based on static information like a chart. Te judges how well something works and Te with Ne valuing looks at the general way in which something can be applied to the outer workings of things. Te judges the mechanics (dyamics) of what is observed in the HOWs "t shows how all of these seemingly random ideas relate"; Ne valuing sees the novel and new connection between ideas, hence "it connects the three spectrums of testosterone together"

    Sorry, my dear; you're not my dual
    Maritsa, if it's wrong it doesn't work!

    Sorry, confused female, I'm your dual whether you like it or not. Unless you've been masquerading as EII this whole time and are actually something entirely different. I suppose that's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Maritsa, if it's wrong it doesn't work!

    Sorry, confused female, I'm your dual whether you like it or not. Unless you've been masquerading as EII this whole time and are actually something entirely different. I suppose that's possible.
    You're not correct, a lot of things are in theory that can work for the majority of people. For example, it works in my case; something which you do not realize because you think it doesn't work; you've already judged the item without sufficient general consideration.

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    You're not correct, a lot of things are in theory that can work for the majority of people. For example, it works in my case; something which you do not realize because you think it doesn't work; you've already judged the item without sufficient general consideration.

    You're not my dual.
    I'm a j. We judge. I like to decide whether or not something has value quickly so I won't waste time with dumb stuff. Don't SEEs tend to be more open-minded?

    You're my dual!

    Actually, the dichotomy I'm most confused with of your typing for me is the F. How on Earth do you type me as a feeler? I am blunt, rough, and completely out-of-touch with others' feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Sorry, my dear; you're not my dual

    You're right, she's not; though, an LIE may very well work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post

    You're right, she's not; though, an LIE may very well work for you.
    Now that I think of it, ESI would make sense for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Now that I think of it, ESI would make sense for her.
    She does a decent job with her Ti Role. Her inability to acknowledge that she could possibly be wrong about some peoples' types, amongst other things, is a likely indication of Se > Ne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post
    She does a decent job with her Ti Role. Her inability to acknowledge that she could possibly be wrong about some peoples' types, amongst other things, is a likely indication of Se > Ne.
    But would an ESI be that careless at spelling and math?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    But this is one way in which you devalue and value ; you're looking at something specific that doesn't fit into that chart, while the chart explains things in a general or "rough" explanation, hence those who value are likely to find it interesting; they can take a chart like this and apply it to a general not specific cases.
    Well... maybe abbie just needed a little dose of instead of the criticism you offered to her lack of (LSEs do have weak btw)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Well... maybe abbie just needed a little dose of instead of the criticism you offered to her lack of (LSEs do have weak btw)
    No, they have mobilizing ; their activities with regards to this function exceed those of base types when around types. But that doesn't really matter; what matters is the Te; he's LSE because he picks charts that help explain external activities of events in an efficient way.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    No, they have mobilizing ; their activities with regards to this function exceed those of base types when around types. But that doesn't really matter; what matters is the Te; he's LSE because he picks charts that help explain external activities of events in an efficient way.
    I'm talking about abbie..
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I'm talking about abbie..
    Where'd the like button go?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Where's the like button go?!
    Oh, i had that issue too a couple times tonight! just refresh... i think shortly after you post, the like buttons disappear even on other people's posts...


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    Since we're on the topic of charts...here, Maritsa. This is what I do for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Since we're on the topic of charts...here, Maritsa. This is what I do for fun.
    What do those charts do? What are their purpose?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    But this is one way in which you devalue and value ; you're looking at something specific that doesn't fit into that chart, while the chart explains things in a general or "rough" explanation, hence those who value are likely to find it interesting; they can take a chart like this and apply it to a general not specific cases.
    you will be pleased to note that I look for exceptions to the "rule" all the fucking time

    actually, I'm sure you won't note it

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