Is it possible for LII to be E4?

[silke]

There is nothing really about any of the types that would contradict being a 4. Imo it is one of the more ubiquitous e-types like 3 or 9.

I think Jack White might be an example of an LII 4, only he is probably sx/sp rather than sp-primary. From his interviews the reactive triad seemed fitting making either 4 or 6 be the most likely choices. There is something very emotionally tortured about his music and lyrics suggestive of longing and melancholy that makes type 4 seem like a better fit for him than a 6.

edit: ahahaha! cracked even has a flowchart for his style

 

[lemontrees]

Aw, thanks so much for the responses.

I'm becoming increasingly more convinced that this person may be an EII-Ne. I guess I didn't think he was b/c he seems to appreciate my input more than other EII's I've interacted with in the past, but the more I think about it the more EII becomes plausible.

Agarina, I think it's adorable that your little bro might be a social charmer LII! That makes me happy for all the LII's of the world. Just from the pics though, he seems to VI more LIE? (He just doesn't give me that Se-PoLR vibe!!) Not to be annoying about someone you know intimately who I don't know at all.

Siuntal, I'm not at all convinced that Jack White is logical. I think he might be some sort of NF? Not to say that type 4 can't be universal.

edit: Love the flowchart, btw.

[silke]

Siuntal, I'm not at all convinced that Jack White is logical. I think he might be some sort of NF? Not to say that type 4 can't be universal.

If you read his interviews he has this inability to evaluate his own inner states from personalized pov that many of the Ti-egos have (this is one of the reasons why they need Fe-egos to check in with them ) so I personally don't doubt that he is a Ti-ego type.

[willekeurig]

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[Radio]

Nah, Jack White is some Se-ego. Look at dem intense eyes:

[silke]

Nah, Jack White is some Se-ego. Look at dem intense eyes:

That's sx-primary if anything in combination with Hologprahic-Panoramic cognition (Jack White checks out as H-P by his speech semantics). H-P types tend to stare right at something as if they can see into its core. This in combination with being sx-primary can yield a very intense look.

Check out Gotye's gaze, also H-P (Fi-ENFp), also sx-primary:

[Radio]

That's sx-primary if anything in combination with Hologprahic-Panoramic cognition (Jack White checks out as H-P by his speech semantics). H-P types tend to stare right at something as if they can see into its core. This in combination with being sx-primary can yield a very intense look.

Check out Gotye's gaze, also H-P (Fi-ENFp), also sx-primary:

[images]

Hm, funny, I don't see the same thing in Gotye, which makes me think maybe we're seeing two different things.

(I might come back to this when I have more time + energy.)

[silke]

Hm, funny, I don't see the same thing in Gotye, which makes me think maybe we're seeing two different things.

(I might come back to this when I have more time + energy.)

Possibly. Afaik intensity in eyes has nothing to do with being Se-valuing. That piercing, direct, center-lock stare is common for the H-P types, which includes IEEs and LIIs. Gotye is doing a bit of squinting as a Fi-creative, irrational type, but here's a picture of Tom Waits in comparison, who is usually typed as LII, or Ne-ego at least. Like Jack White he is looking straight-on with a sharp focus, as if he has grasped you as a whole and is trying to penetrate to the very center (to your weakest link):

[Pookie]

That's sx-primary if anything in combination with Hologprahic-Panoramic cognition (Jack White checks out as H-P by his speech semantics). H-P types tend to stare right at something as if they can see into its core. This in combination with being sx-primary can yield a very intense look.

Check out Gotye's gaze, also H-P (Fi-ENFp), also sx-primary:

Gotye's eye's are unfocused on the object, Jack White's are totally focused on the object.

Jack White seems ESI

[lemontrees]

He used to fall off from docks to the sea when he was little because he didn't notice they ended.

That's really endearing, Agarina.