Originally Posted by
gambit
I was thinking about how socionics constructs the relationships between the functions and I wanted to try and explain why it might be a false dichotomy in some ways to suggest certain relations, mostly just to hear what people have to say about it. I'm not sure how much anyone will agree or if anyone will even understand what I'm saying, but here goes:
So the first idea is that Ti is contradictory to Fi and Fi contradictory to Ti.
But from what I understand about Fi is that it deals with more than the emotions of itself; in a way, it is about taking in the emotions of others, so that they become a part of the Fi user, and then mixing them together to create a mutual emotion or feeling that is both a part of the Fi user and a part of another. It is collective, it melds with others and requires a dynamic type of thinking (Te) to allow this to occur. I know socionics relates it to relationships and what people like, but I think that misses this bigger picture. (?)
But, so then, Ti would have to be the opposite of that; it would have nothing to do with considering the emotional impacts on others or even the self, but instead separate itself from all others and calculate, as if simultaneously inculcating competition, for the sake of what prizes (Fe) come to the winner; this dynamically extemporaneous type of feeling (Fe) is produced from the empowering affect of success that is found or ultimately desired. (?)
The things that I don't like about the above is that neither one necessarily has any more to do with logic or relationships in the overall scheme of their concept. Even worse from this, since Fi can take in the emotions of a Ti user, it can attach itself to them, whereas the Ti user has no basic underlining draw to the Fi user, except as a tool for winning some form of competition for the Ti user. But taking this even farther, since Si relates strictly to the impressions that people find and form, Ni goes past impression and tries to see a deeper meaning of how impressions relate to one another; it is also, arguably, the most collective irrational function because of this. But then take a type that values both Fi and Ni, and now you have someone who can form a relationship with anyone because they are both capable of melding their psyche into that other and seeing how they relate to them, intuitively, on a collective level; such types are probably the least judgmental because they see all reason why judgment is flawed. And I know this is a common thing that is often said about NF types (mostly read in MBTI forums), that they are capable of this and it shows in many ways in the way they form relationships and engage people to reconsider how they are thinking and understanding the theory. (?)
thoughts?