Phobic/Counterphobic/?????

[Galen]

I've been coming to debate my being a phobic vs counterphobic 6 recently, especially since Siuntal's post regarding Sx primaries and counter-fixation mechanisms. Now that I've come much more into my own and have a better understanding of how I operate naturally I would say I have more "counterphobic" tendencies than I previously gave myself credit for: challenging/lashing out against people I view as threats (you can look my list of targets in the past like Gul, Aleksei, ESC, recently jetson for evidence of that), resentment towards people who succumb to their anxieties (my brother in particular), etc. I would say though that I'm often very aware of the things that make me anxious, and if I don't know what's causing it then I devote almost all my energy to rooting out the source of the problem and correcting it; this tactic could just as easily allay a good portion of the extremes in terms of phobic/counterphobic reactivity patterns (5 wing much?).

Ultimately, the answer I want to come to is that the p/cp dichotomy isn't at all set in stone, and that any 6 given a different situation and level of mental health can exhibit either set of traits. As such, for me to attempt pinning down which side I fall more squarely on from the perspective of myself is a futile effort, since the answer will always depend more on my current mood than any analysis of regular behavior patterns.

This being the case, I pass the torch onto whoever the hell actually reads the things I say and has an opinion on how I operate as a 3rd party observer.

gooooooooooo



EDIT: for fear of begging the question, you use this space to talk about my enneatype in general if the notion of me as a 6 doesn't sit right with y'all.

[Absurd]

But you're still gay?

[Raver]

I've been coming to debate my being a phobic vs counterphobic 6 recently, especially since Siuntal's post regarding Sx primaries and counter-fixation mechanisms. Now that I've come much more into my own and have a better understanding of how I operate naturally I would say I have more "counterphobic" tendencies than I previously gave myself credit for: challenging/lashing out against people I view as threats (you can look my list of targets in the past like Gul, Aleksei, ESC, recently jetson for evidence of that), resentment towards people who succumb to their anxieties (my brother in particular), etc. I would say though that I'm often very aware of the things that make me anxious, and if I don't know what's causing it then I devote almost all my energy to rooting out the source of the problem and correcting it; this tactic could just as easily allay a good portion of the extremes in terms of phobic/counterphobic reactivity patterns (5 wing much?).

Ultimately, the answer I want to come to is that the p/cp dichotomy isn't at all set in stone, and that any 6 given a different situation and level of mental health can exhibit either set of traits. As such, for me to attempt pinning down which side I fall more squarely on from the perspective of myself is a futile effort, since the answer will always depend more on my current mood than any analysis of regular behavior patterns.

This being the case, I pass the torch onto whoever the hell actually reads the things I say and has an opinion on how I operate as a 3rd party observer.

gooooooooooo



EDIT: for fear of begging the question, you use this space to talk about my enneatype in general if the notion of me as a 6 doesn't sit right with y'all.

Well, 6s that are sx primary tend to be highly counterphobic, which would fit in with your overall behaviour. Sometimes you might be phobic, but almost nobody is completely one way or another. I have no reason to question your enneagram type and instinctual stacking unless you have some other enneagram types and stackings you are playing around with.

[Galen]

Well, 6s that are sx primary tend to be highly counterphobic, which would fit in with your overall behaviour. Sometimes you might be phobic, but almost nobody is completely one way or another. I have no reason to question your enneagram type and instinctual stacking unless you have some other enneagram types and stackings you are playing around with.

The problem though is that I never thought of myself as "highly" counterphobic. Whatever pseudo-aggressive tendencies I have seem more like traits that have only recently come into being. That is, unless someone else can point out otherwise.

[Raver]

The problem though is that I never thought of myself as "highly" counterphobic. Whatever pseudo-aggressive tendencies I have seem more like traits that have only recently come into being. That is, unless someone else can point out otherwise.

Yeah you do seem kind of balanced, but that could be a result of your sp instinct holding you back a bit, I imagine sx/so would be a lot more counterphobic than an sx/sp. You should check out this link of instinct ranges as you might find it useful, you could be an sx/sp with strong sp or an sp/sx with strong sx:

http://typewatchenneagram.blogspot.ca/

I fall into the mid range sp/sx best from these descriptions.

[Galen]

But you're still gay?

cute

[Absurd]

cute

You find those people mentioned above in your first post threatening?

[Galen]

You find those people mentioned above in your first post threatening?

In an intellectual sense I do; it's not as if they pose any physical threat to anybody on here. What got me about them was their insistence on spreading misleading or outright false information about themselves and others, and having others' thoughts being led astray by their lies that struck me as inexcusable intellectual dishonesty.

[Creepy-pokeball]

I am not sure that I properly fathom what it specifically is and how it relates to the rest.

[Absurd]

What got me about them was their insistence on spreading misleading or outright false information about themselves and others, and having others' thoughts being led astray by their lies that struck me as inexcusable intellectual dishonesty.

Hmm, might be worth looking into counter-phobic. Your call.

[Galen]

Bump because I'm going with counterphobic for the time being. Yell at me if you don't like it.

[anndelise]

Thanks for bumping it, I'd forgotten to keep watch on this conver when it was happening. You know I don,t know much of anything about enneagram, except that 6 sx/sp describes me better than any other I've read. Much of what you wrote in the OP and in response to Jadae, seemed like you plucked it from my mind.

[Park]

[Galen]

that song is the product of legitimate skill in composition and arrangement

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[Park]

europe is a dick

and you want it