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    Model A and Operant Conditioning - Informational Reinforcement and Punishment

    Model A functional blocks have always been termed by Freudian and Jungian terminology, but these blocks can also be related to operant conditioning and the system of punishment and reinforcement as described within.

    In human beings, with a conscious developed mind which process information, information itself becomes a source of reinforcement and punishment for the individual.

    The four blocks of information are described below:
    Ego Negative Reinforcement(Escape)
    Super-Ego Positive Punishment(Punishment)
    Super-ID Positive Reinforcement(Reinforcement)
    ID Negative Punishment(Penalty)







    When one thinks of the blocks as areas of informational reinforcement and punishment, one can see that for example when we act on our ID impulses and are penalized by the removal of Super-ID(Reinforcement) information and punished by Super-ego information(this is often thru social interaction or interaction with the world), the mind escapes to the Ego in contemplation. The ego devises the means of negotiating the world and formulating the means by which an individual communicates with the world and in turn receives new Super-ID information as Reinforcement. It is thru this back and forth that the entirety of a individuals Personality develops, weaknesses, strengths, sore spots, and sweet spots.

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    I have been working on this for a while and will write more about this as time permits, but I wanted to at least to give people a new way of thinking of the informational blocks within Model A, as in socionics it is not only the Ego that is important but the whole of a person's psyche.

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    Shouldn't this be moved to hypotheses/new theories?

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    It's Model A and not deviating from Model A, it's just way to integrate Model A with operant conditioning.

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    Be that as it may:
    - it's not been published in a journal.
    - it's your original work

    You're making an exception for yourself.

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    And? I would post any of Rick's articles here as well, as well as various other members that have been on this site such as Expat. This is still my site, and in that sense my journal, and the moderation staff here maintains editorial control.

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    I think it would be constructive to see how accurate your theory really is. And I think you would be the perfect subject for that experiment, because I'm seeing a MAJOR Fi fail here.

    But I guess it's good to be the king, right? Way to go, Hikikomori: you're showing us how dictatorships are really done. All pigs, after all, are equal BUT SOME PIGS...

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    I actually agree with tcaud...this is obviously not really a 1-1 obvious correlation (and therefore speculative) and its also highly restrictive of the operative definitions of the different forms of reinforcement.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Is this your idea?
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I'm not sure this is compatible with dual-type theory.

    And it seems a major oversimplification. But I'm sure the despots who rule your island will be pleased to have yet another brainwashing method at your disposal. Your life is 1984, after all.

    I can't wait to see the day that Reuben kicks your ass.

    In the meantime, have fun in Walden Two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Is this your idea?
    Yes. I'm not done writing/discussing all aspects of it yet, think of this as an abstract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Yes. I'm not done writing/discussing all aspects of it yet, think of this as an abstract.
    shouldn't you write the abstract last once you understand all the details? That's usually what I do, I was taught to write it last and to make it as concise as possible without being too concise. I'm just curious what your process is...

    call it an abstract because it gets criticized?


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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    shouldn't you write the abstract last once you understand all the details? That's usually what I do, I was taught to write it last and to make it as concise as possible without being too concise. I'm just curious what your process is...

    call it an abstract because it gets criticized?
    Just because I haven't finished writing about doesn't mean I haven't thought of many details. I have been discussing with people who have met me amongst other things for years.

    I'm not a academic and I don't try to work the way academics do. If I write something and put it out there, the point is for it to be criticized. Some will be constructive, other will be pointless.

    Anyways, it doesn't matter what people say about it or criticize it, it only matter if it's right or not. And I don't think Marista was criticizing me, I just wanted her to know I am still putting stuff down.

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    I was just asking about your methodology -- you go with the "put something out there for it to be criticized method" hmmm yesssss quite interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Yes. I'm not done writing/discussing all aspects of it yet, think of this as an abstract.

    Wow, it's great.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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