There is no possible way that I am Beta. Also...
<3 Fi
</3 Fe
I use Fe. But I am not Fe.
There is no possible way that I am Beta. Also...
<3 Fi
</3 Fe
I use Fe. But I am not Fe.
You are very talkative and you say everything you think... Your minor thoughts change (contradict each other) in minutes, your major thoughts contradict each other after each full moon.Originally Posted by Joy
Why is that so?
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
Joy, you remind me of a sane version of my ENTj mother-in-law.
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
lol I most certainly do not say everything I think!!! I'm not THAT mean.Originally Posted by Kristiina
and yes... it is very loud in my head. many separate thought processes at once. I wouldn't say they're contradicary though, for the most part.
lol! she must be *totally* batty!Originally Posted by oyburger
[quote="Joy
lol! she must be *totally* batty![/quote]
Yes, yes indeed. She's bipolar, this does not make things for the rest of us easy
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
I don't monitor my mannerisms and whatnot.Originally Posted by ChibiKeba
You know, this is getting to be seriously annoying. This is a Socionics forum and people come here to talk about their types. You might have seen the light after 6,000 posts and at least 5 different types, but other people are still in the process of reaching this type Nirvana of yours.Originally Posted by Joy
Nobody here has ever been so obsessed with finding their type as you have been and it's annoying that now you are the know-it-all super typer. You turn people into different types to fit your own current one (no single ENTj on your list but you? Oh please....). Seriously, Joy, you need to chill the fuck out already or find another forum if you are sick of people debating types. Because, uhm, that's what this one is about.
And finally, if you are so sick about it, why even MENTION your own type? Why make post after post ad nauseum about it? Why not be consistently typeless? That would the logical consequence of what you have been preaching.
Ok, done venting for now...
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Originally Posted by Kim
LOL
I don't think I'm the only ENTj on the forum, btw
Originally Posted by Kim
This is an impressive demonstration of you being anything but ENTj.Originally Posted by Joy
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Originally Posted by Kim
Discojoe, here's a suggestion:
Go get a job or an education and stop wasting your time with pointless bullshit.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Go have a baby and stop wasting your time with this pointless bullshit. The biological clock is ticking!Originally Posted by Kim
-2Originally Posted by discojoe
Come on, menopause is fun.Originally Posted by Bionicgoat
yeah, if there's a point
she was irritated because I said that I thought ashton might be ESTp, meaning that I don't trust her typing skills... so she read a couple pages back into a thread and picked out something to bitch about. I see no reason to have an intelligent debate on the matter.
Originally Posted by Joy
LOL x2
(ps i dont want any part of the debate, i just thought this was funny)
is the possibility of ashton being estp very large? because dont get along at all. usually its best we stay out of each others way. =/Originally Posted by Joy
I think benny is ESTp, and he and ashton are a hell of a lot alike. that's all... I don't know what type he is. I really don't care, either. The reaction I got was funny though, was it not?
The idea of joy being ENFj seems to work well as it creates more information to prove it.
Things what I concider valid.
a) - emotional and likes to be the one who creates the emotional atmosphere around others. Can read others moods and explain their motives. Can change others attitude, tries to lift it into more positive.
b) - shows hope. Tries to change others vision into more positive (''We all feel low and that causes something bad (Fe), but we can live with it and turn it into something positive -Ni). That was hypoetetical imitation of her speach, btw.
Things what might be valid.
- may be her hidden agenda. With Volitional Sensing to take a controll over the territory and to use it to be liked by others or at least in the center of the company.
- dual seeking function. Likes socionics, whitch is a bunch of sturcural knowledge. It might cause atraction in her, otherwise she wouldn't be in here. Another point makeing sence that her Ti is weak is that she can't make a firm conclusion of her type and doesn't like to be put into one box where to stay long lasting time.
But I don't know how good it is to behave like this and tell others all these thoughts I just wrote down for all of you to see.
Kim has spoken. She had a very good point.Originally Posted by Kim
Kim, I give you my full support on this matter. *two thumbs up*
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
This is probably the most tactless thing I have seen in a while. I had the fat-people-thread, but you win BIG time!Originally Posted by discojoe
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
I agree with this. is not only about being chatty, although Joy is chatty. It's about influencing the general mood of the group around you. Joy, you do your best to be one of the mood-leaders of this forum. This has been true throughout your stay in this forum (I noticed this even way back when I identified with INTj and stayed in the background)Originally Posted by jsb
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
It was not about Ashton, it was about you bitching about people being preoccupied with their types on a SOCIONICS FORUM where you have been most active of all. It is ludicrous to constantly state that type does not matter when you post and post and post about typing.Originally Posted by Joy
But true, I dislike the way you present yourself as an expert and claim to be a type and retyping other people in the process who clearly are that type. Expat, FDG and Ashton are about as ENTj as it gets. Just watch them use Te in the chat. If you were an ENTj, you would have used Te to counter what I said. It would have been a very easy thing to do.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
If only it had the effect he would like it to have. Dj does not have the skills to hit where it hurts. But let him keep trying, he might get it some day.Originally Posted by Kristiina
Yay, Babies!
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Haha You Go Girl!Originally Posted by Kim
EIE, ENFj, intuitive subtype.
E3 (probably 3w4)
Cool ILI hubbys are better than LSIs any time!
Old blog: http://firsttimeinusa.blogspot.com/
New blog: http://having-a-kid.blogspot.com/
*rolls eyes*
I thought it was awesome reading these words under this avatar:
Originally Posted by Kim
my one complaint about ENFj is... aren't people supposed to, for the most part, like their mirror and activity partners? Also, I do not relate to the Beta respect for hierarchy in the least.
oh yeah, and the description doesn't match. I guess that's three.
1) I never said expat isn't ENTj and I never said FDG isn't Te. As far as Ahston goes... I don't know. He displays a great deal of Se, but that could just be because of his mood disorder.Originally Posted by Kim
2) I'm sorry Kim. I didn't care about what you posted enough to engage you in a real conversation about it. It's pointless. I'd rather just let you bitch whenever you feel it necessary.
In your sig you state that Fabie is ESTj, but then again who is to know when you are serious and when you are not anymore. As for Ashton, he is very clearly a lot more Te than Ti and Se is also strong in all ENTjs I know here and in person. This does not need to be a discussion about Ashton's type. It just irks me that you constantly say that internet typing is a sham and that people are too preoccupied with finding their right type while enganging in those very things more than anyone else.1) I never said expat isn't ENTj and I never said FDG isn't Te. As far as Ahston goes... I don't know. He displays a great deal of Se, but that could just be because of his mood disorder.
Well, I was venting as I said. I was never asking for a real conversation. I just think that you contradict yourself and it's annoying.2) I'm sorry Kim. I didn't care about what you posted enough to engage you in a real conversation about it. It's pointless. I'd rather just let you bitch whenever you feel it necessary.
AND KITTY HAS BAD DAYS, TOO!!! :wink:
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
You should see Kitty on PMS, she turn into a pink lion and will even tell ESTjs to chill the fuck out already! :wink:Originally Posted by cracka
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
ESTjs use Te.Originally Posted by Kim
Yeah. Perhaps I'm projecting? And whenever I suggest a type for a person, I am pretty consistant about stating that I couldn't say for sure because I don't know them irl. I think A LOT is lost in this form of communication.It just irks me that you constantly say that internet typing is a sham and that people are too preoccupied with finding their right type while enganging in those very things more than anyone else.
lol I know. It's all good.Well, I was venting as I said. I was never asking for a real conversation. I just think that you contradict yourself and it's annoying.
AND KITTY HAS BAD DAYS, TOO!!! :wink:
back to the ENFj thing...
honestly, I think I'd consider ENFj the second most likely type for myself
irl, however, I don't think I'm tactful enough to be ENFj, and I get too worn out from using Fe... I use Fe because it's the language of the natives. It's how people interact, so I interact like that too. I don't feel like it's my first language though. and I do that whole ExTj assertion thing way too much.