Why haven't you considered ILE?
Why haven't you considered ILE?
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You are not listening to me, you haven't read what I have posted, and until that changes I cannot continue this conversation.Originally Posted by Maritsa33
I read it.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
If you have read this thread you would know that in the third post I referenced myself feeling like an ILE or ILI at times, thus meaning I've probably considered it. Obviously you are still not really listening to me, or taking me seriously.
Ok
You might be interested in these descriptions: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Meged-Ovcharov
The untranslated, elaborate versions of the same is located here: http://socionic.ru/index.php/2010-10...10-14-21-07-24
I'd agree those descriptions overlap with Socionics types mostly. They usually do, but if not then there are a ton of type descriptions in Socionics to go on.Others have been able to discern to a rather positive degree my type. What else should I put, I will gladly answer more questions. Though this seems to be kind of hypocritical, perhaps I just need more specific question to answer. I did post the link to what I believe is a good description of ENTj that I agree with, another that I think describes me to a T is this description of the Jungian (though descriptions do not carry over completely) version: http://www.bestfittype.com/entj.html
I'm not sure what kind of questions would be beneficial to ask to help determine type. I just think not enough information was given for a really solid conclusion.
You can try:
What is your attitude towards and philosophy on life?
And if you could expand on your lifestyle some more, describe what kind of events and actions are typical.
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I think it's better to leave subtypes alone, at least during the initial phase of your socionics journey. The descriptions are generally conflicting. From my POV and experience, intuitive subtypes should appear as more energetic and frantic than logical subtypes. They might be slightly more socially detached.
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I think you come across as aego MrRTR from what you've said, but I think LSE is just likely as LIE, but I'm not really sure since you haven't given that much information. Do you care to share anything else about yourself in greater detail?
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Last edited by Korpsy Knievel; 02-06-2012 at 08:19 AM.
I am on my phone so this reply will be short, but the link you've provided has helped me decide that I am most likely LIE. Last night I was trying to decipher whether my PoLR function was Si, or Ni and decided that Si as occupying that spot made sense as I tend to disregard my internal stasis for a long term goal, wishing at points I could just deny it completely. The LIE-Ni description fit me the best. Thank you again and if I get to a computer I will answer more of the questions you have provided.
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That seems a little awkward now, doesn't it......? Sorreeee.
You shouldn't change just because I did, i.e. it's okay not to be duals, I still <3 you!
LIE sounds right.
I'd say that one of my primary fears is wasting time.
How do you mean?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Time goes away, it never comes back. That's a scary thought. So stop thinking about it.
Putting forth effort that will end up being ignored, or overlooked, or denied is quite angering because of the waste of time that will indicate. Whether it be relationships, or effort in a hobby, or job.
This is true, but I cannot avoid it. The thought of being late, or running out of time is very scary.Time goes away, it never comes back. That's a scary thought. So stop thinking about it.
Being short on time is the best.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
umm....Time is not an infinite resource if you waste time, you don't get it back and
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Hypothetical scenario:
1. Are you big on details of something you're working on in the immediate moment?
2. When you need to present something to someone, what is the quality that you strive for?
3. LSE is a doer, LIE is a thinker; LSE can be a "what-if" type person but they are decisive and they will do what they want to.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
she's full of shit - and if you can't see that then you're estj.
like:
or uhh i can't find of the kind.. of time apprehension kind of thing. do you like you feel you have to do everything now or do you worry about things coming up in the future?
He's not LSE. He's too much of a thinker in the Ni way; I think his Te pushes him to be concerned about time and productivity, but it's not Ni PoLR.
This thread and one other is a good example of his "contemplative" as opposed to decisive inclination.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
:c
I'll make time for you. <3
There you go MrSomething. You can join the gamma club now and not get invested.
Don't forget to confim his type in your thread, Maritsa.
I'd say it's definitely the first. The future doesn't necessarily scare me.
So I have been contemplating for a little while and I think I may be considering SLE. I have come to realize that I am more action oriented than I first believed.
As well I have contemplated being an LSE as I sometimes do feel like the role of Caregiver is one that I could fulfill.
That sucks you can't whisper.
anyways, I agree with ENTx so far.
Well, both SLE and LIE value Se so they both have that Se level of energy output. LSE like facts and value Si, but they are not as energetic as SLE and LIE are; which one of these do you agree/relate with:
LSE is the Administrator http://socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-4j.html
Administration requires delegating and details.
LIE are called Enterpriser because they are good at seeing need for innovation and filling it with product or service.
http://socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-3j.html
SLE are called commander because they don't like anyone challenging; they can get people to follow what he says.
http://socioniko.net/en/1.3.rels/dual-2p.html
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I related to LSE and LIE the most. A little more LSE maybe. I don't know how much of a risk taker I truly am. However, I was reading the dual relations between the LIE and the ESI and I relate to the cautiousness of the ESI.
Good idea. I'll try to find some time.
Well, LSE don't like proceeding into a situation without a plan, like going to a grocery store without a list; they need to know what to expect in a situation, that is how they can be cautious.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Oh god, you're LSE; albeit undualized. I'll tell you something, we have a tendency, as human beings, to change or adapt to people and situations around us, when you've hung around non-dual types for long, you kind of lose touch with how to read your dual. If you can get what I'm saying. Can't you see that you VI'd like the LSE men in that link I posted?
^ would be Ni PoLR too. I didn't want to say it before, but it is.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 03-05-2012 at 03:29 AM.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Judging which external action to take,It's more of making the plans and then determining after a certain amount of creation to select the appropriate one to act upon. The quicker between the creation and action taken the better
Determining which one is most appropriatepoLR, something I'm good at.
You can reread the LSE/EII dual description for that last part.
When you're not dualized and are unfamiliar with how EII think, we think in
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 03-05-2012 at 03:14 AM.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
This explains my weird "attraction" to you or this thread.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
So. Everyone agrees on the SLE?
In reading I have agreed with the creative subtype of both LIE and TSE descriptions.
Are you secure or insecure; a neurotic or a confident guy?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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