Most of us are really skinny.
Look for casual and comfortable dress, usually we like our hair up in public or completely down; we look and walk kind of stoopy like this:
Have an enigmatic look like this:
Identifying an INFj
Most of us are really skinny.
Look for casual and comfortable dress, usually we like our hair up in public or completely down; we look and walk kind of stoopy like this:
Have an enigmatic look like this:
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Nope.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
Skinniness has nothing to do with it. I've known some fat EII guys. And you're not enigmatic.
Originally Posted by anndelise
Maritsa, unless you can find evidence to support your claims, I'm going to write them off as fallacies. So far all I see is subjective generalizations being paraded as fact ("I'm EII, and this is how I look, thus EII's look like this, I know this because I'm EII"); circular thinking accomplishes nothing
EII INFj
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And this is how male LSEs look like:
Note they look similar to me, that is the photo of me I posted in unofficial member's pics thread.
EIIs are creepy as hell. They devour souls.
So so wrong. I hope the newbs dont fall for this.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
The point of this thread is that EII, being a rational type, are very likely to analyze things and not just to either experience them or pass things around them as static images. This analysis has to do with making correlations, ties between things sometimes things that are seemingly different or unrelated, thus observing relationships and not just human relationships. I do observe a lot of human relationships, too, but I've noticed that I tend to "judge" or compare or build and make relationships between ideas that I read in one place to ideas of another place.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Have a serious face like this:
show a beautiful smile:
Looks like me in my avatar.
dress to impress and give a really nice smile:
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Ew. She looks like a zombie.
Time to examine this thread. What am I doing starting from the beginning.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Doesn't anyone want to talk about what happened in this thread from it's very beginning? Imagine, me, a newbie, who just came on and started this very first thread in this manner, what could you say about the person? Doesn't anyone want to examine something deeper than Kim Kardashian's rear end?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I would have replied the same way, except I would have included that physiognomy techniques should not be used above information elements when trying to accurately type someone
Your thread likely wouldn't have turned people off from contributing to it had you created a hypothesis for your theory, rather than stated your observations as matter of fact, i.e "Most of us are really skinny"; instead, you could have stated something more inclusive like, "Do EII's tend to be really skinny? I've noticed that a lot of people I type as such tend to be...", which would have left room for some actual dialogue
And if you're going to make deductive or absolutest statements, it would be in your favor to supply evidence, including various citations and other well supported, evidence based, and reliable sources to back-up your assertions
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
Marie, read what I am asking for before you reply some nonsense. I don't need supportive evidence, that is something that is required by empirical types, AKA Sensory types; This is purely an intellectual thread. Better yet, don't reply to my threads, please because you lack the ability to make abstractions and analysis of things from intellectual, conceptual and rationalistic perspective.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
This has nothing to do with Socionics,
Anyone who makes a factual assertion needs evidence to support it, or else by default they're either lying or in the realm of logical fallacies
Could you imagine a judge giving a verdict without any evidence provided from the plaintiff or defendants and writing it off as, "oh, but I'm a sensory type, so it's perfectly acceptable in my case"?
And no, there is nothing rational about the basis of your thread, it actually is devoid of any rational thought and is reminiscent of aura readings and other superstitious, evidence lacking, nonsense
Lastly, I will read what I want and comment where I want, as can anyone else. This is not your site, meaning you have no right to dictate the autonomy of the users here, nor are you in any position to intimidate people into accepting your pseudoscience
I'd beg to differ
Last edited by Marie84; 01-27-2012 at 04:36 AM.
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
No. Only those who view reality through concrete terms instead of through analysis and ideas need this; that is exactly the opposite of myself.
Yes. An introverted, egocentric, judger, who values her own subjective importance, experience and judgements to be of greater value than the corresponding evidence is likely to overlook the evidence or the concrete data. And again not what I'm asking for here. You're evaluating something completely different and wasting my time.
The rationality in my thread is in how rational types find concepts and build ideas from non-concrete things like you suggest and at the same time, how EII find relation not as in relationships but in relation to ideas.
And I will ignore you and continue to undermine your importance in any position you decide to take.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I type non of you in this thread any Ti or rational type. None.
Here we go:
A young forum member, by the name of Maritsa33, comes along and opens this thread. She IDENTIFIES with an EII type. She states this IDENTITY in a series of representative pictures which she IDENTIFIES herself with and interlinks her identity with (hence tying some relationship between herself and commonly features or expressive faces of other individual with who she identifies as her identical). Maritsa33 is trying to say what?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
No one knows what you're asking for, Maritsa. Your daul isn't even a Ti type so I don't know why you're obsessed with Ti types. And what's with this stupid shit anyway? You keep asking nonsensical questions and pretend as if you're teaching something when you don't know shit of what you're talking about. Analyse this, analyse that. Fuck off.
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She doesn't feel safe in this world without Socionics?
Now, back to the thread.... since obviously no one is into deep thinking in any way concerning it.
How might one suggest that in identity one is capable of building a relation to object experienced?
How does this thread relate to concept? As explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You cant even form a coherent sentence.
At least learn how to communicate your ideas instead of blaming others for your incompetence.
....Anyways, Maritsa...sorry but im having trouble understanding what it is you're trying to ask. Could you please rephrase your question, go into detail and specify what it is you want.
Don't ask stupid questions.
I'm not even reading that LOL
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol come on Tsaritsa, at least agree to disagree, refusing to read a post is bad debating etiquette.
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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Yo, Marie.
Aren't you a "moderator"? Then moderate yourself and keep on track with the objective that I WANT FOR THIS THREAD BECAUSE IT IS MY THREAD AND I HAVE A SPECIFIC PURPOSE IN DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC WHICH YOU YOURSELF ARE NEGLECTING TO FOLLOW.
comprende?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
YEAH, I don't care about "accuracy." I don't know which quackjob attached that to mean Te valuing. LOL
Te is not judging the accuracy of things in as much as making judgments based on their conceptual values and ideas and observing how things work in dynamic motion.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I have taken the liberty of striking through everything that's bullshit. Attributing physiological characteristics to cognitive patterns is akin to phrenology.
In the Eastern part of the world, body shapes, facial features, communicative gesticulations, manners of speaking and gait have already long been attributed to or identified in Socionics types. I'm not saying they're accurate or inaccurate but if they have studies to back those up then you have to consider the possibility of psychology and cognition being manifested through physical structures and processes in humans.
If someone has personal observational evidence to back up physiological tendencies there's nothing wrong with that, but it would be backwards to try and find physiological correlations to Socionics when there are much more substantial fields of study to pursue that.
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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Alright, let's see how good the correlations the eastern socionists make actually are. But there's no way to really do that. Most or all of socionics could easily just be confirmation bias.
They supposedly have done studies, they mention them all the time. It's hard to find any databanks linking it all though, they have mostly been references to studies and not details of formal procedures and conclusions thereof. I found one but not sure where I did, besides this (sort of irrelevant) one of course, done on the Reinin dichotomies: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...in-Dichotomies.
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and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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