I plus one'd this thread on Google+ so the whole world can see how stupid maritsa is. Now hopefully nobody will breed with her.
I plus one'd this thread on Google+ so the whole world can see how stupid maritsa is. Now hopefully nobody will breed with her.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
I apologize to all you nice EIIs. Maritsa is not serious, she just likes to troll on EII matters.
“I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden
Time to examine this thread. What am I doing starting from the beginning.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
O.O
To me Se is all about the flavor, the feel, the texture, the smell, the appearance. If Se gobbles down food, but its because Se is in ecstasy, enjoying the food too much, needing constant input.
ESTj from what i've seen on the other hand with their Si are more likely to "appreciate" the moment and how the food makes them feel, instead of actually participating and enjoying the food for what it is.
Last edited by Leader; 01-26-2012 at 03:30 AM.
What's up with all the disgusting avatars and signatures lately? Seriously.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
Doesn't anyone want to talk about what happened in this thread from it's very beginning? Imagine, me, a newbie, who just came on and started this very first thread in this manner, what could you say about the person? Doesn't anyone want to examine something deeper than Kim Kardashian's rear end?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I would have replied the same way, except I would have included that physiognomy techniques should not be used above information elements when trying to accurately type someone
Your thread likely wouldn't have turned people off from contributing to it had you created a hypothesis for your theory, rather than stated your observations as matter of fact, i.e "Most of us are really skinny"; instead, you could have stated something more inclusive like, "Do EII's tend to be really skinny? I've noticed that a lot of people I type as such tend to be...", which would have left room for some actual dialogue
And if you're going to make deductive or absolutest statements, it would be in your favor to supply evidence, including various citations and other well supported, evidence based, and reliable sources to back-up your assertions
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
Marie, read what I am asking for before you reply some nonsense. I don't need supportive evidence, that is something that is required by empirical types, AKA Sensory types; This is purely an intellectual thread. Better yet, don't reply to my threads, please because you lack the ability to make abstractions and analysis of things from intellectual, conceptual and rationalistic perspective.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I type non of you in this thread any Ti or rational type. None.
Here we go:
A young forum member, by the name of Maritsa33, comes along and opens this thread. She IDENTIFIES with an EII type. She states this IDENTITY in a series of representative pictures which she IDENTIFIES herself with and interlinks her identity with (hence tying some relationship between herself and commonly features or expressive faces of other individual with who she identifies as her identical). Maritsa33 is trying to say what?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
No one knows what you're asking for, Maritsa. Your daul isn't even a Ti type so I don't know why you're obsessed with Ti types. And what's with this stupid shit anyway? You keep asking nonsensical questions and pretend as if you're teaching something when you don't know shit of what you're talking about. Analyse this, analyse that. Fuck off.
This has nothing to do with Socionics,
Anyone who makes a factual assertion needs evidence to support it, or else by default they're either lying or in the realm of logical fallacies
Could you imagine a judge giving a verdict without any evidence provided from the plaintiff or defendants and writing it off as, "oh, but I'm a sensory type, so it's perfectly acceptable in my case"?
And no, there is nothing rational about the basis of your thread, it actually is devoid of any rational thought and is reminiscent of aura readings and other superstitious, evidence lacking, nonsense
Lastly, I will read what I want and comment where I want, as can anyone else. This is not your site, meaning you have no right to dictate the autonomy of the users here, nor are you in any position to intimidate people into accepting your pseudoscience
I'd beg to differ
Last edited by Marie84; 01-27-2012 at 04:36 AM.
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
No. Only those who view reality through concrete terms instead of through analysis and ideas need this; that is exactly the opposite of myself.
Yes. An introverted, egocentric, judger, who values her own subjective importance, experience and judgements to be of greater value than the corresponding evidence is likely to overlook the evidence or the concrete data. And again not what I'm asking for here. You're evaluating something completely different and wasting my time.
The rationality in my thread is in how rational types find concepts and build ideas from non-concrete things like you suggest and at the same time, how EII find relation not as in relationships but in relation to ideas.
And I will ignore you and continue to undermine your importance in any position you decide to take.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Now, back to the thread.... since obviously no one is into deep thinking in any way concerning it.
How might one suggest that in identity one is capable of building a relation to object experienced?
How does this thread relate to concept? As explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
How was your original post anything comparable to "thought analyses"? You were making literal, factual, statements unsupported by nothing but a few pictures that you subjectively used in an objective manner
In other words, screw Te?Yes. An introverted, egocentric, judger, who values her own subjective importance, experience and judgements to be of greater value than the corresponding evidence is likely to overlook the evidence or the concrete data. And again not what I'm asking for here. You're evaluating something completely different and wasting my time.
You're basically saying that the accuracy of the information you distribute means nothing, that theoretical based conclusions are somehow more dependable?
That's fine, so long as you're not using rationality in layman's termThe rationality in my thread is in how rational types find concepts and build ideas from non-concrete things like you suggest and at the same time, how EII find relation not as in relationships but in relation to ideas.
You've told me that multiple times, yet you continue to reply...And I will ignore you and continue to undermine your importance in any position you decide to take.
nonetheless, I will continue to debunk any nonsense I see from you, or anyone else, here if I choose, regardless if anyone reads it. I simply cannot stand charlatans or any other person who misleads impressionable people who want to learn into a vortex of BS
EII INFj
Forum status: retired
I'm not even reading that LOL
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Yo, Marie.
Aren't you a "moderator"? Then moderate yourself and keep on track with the objective that I WANT FOR THIS THREAD BECAUSE IT IS MY THREAD AND I HAVE A SPECIFIC PURPOSE IN DISCUSSION OF THIS TOPIC WHICH YOU YOURSELF ARE NEGLECTING TO FOLLOW.
comprende?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
YEAH, I don't care about "accuracy." I don't know which quackjob attached that to mean Te valuing. LOL
Te is not judging the accuracy of things in as much as making judgments based on their conceptual values and ideas and observing how things work in dynamic motion.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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An ILI at rest tends to remain at rest
and an ILI in motion is probably not an ILI
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....Anyways, Maritsa...sorry but im having trouble understanding what it is you're trying to ask. Could you please rephrase your question, go into detail and specify what it is you want.
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...did Maritsa suddenly go crazy, or is she always like this? >_>
Anyway, ok, let's get back on topic I guess O:
Before deciding what an EII looks like, three questions must be answered.
1. What is an EII
2. What does it mean to look like something
3. Is there a relationship between being an EII and looking like something
ALRIGHT IM READY, NOW LETS DO THIS
brb while I write answers for these questions
this thread is surreal.
1. An EII is a Socionic type distinguished by a first function and a second function. By the rules of Socionics, this indicates a third function, a fourth function, a fifth function, a sixth function, a seventh function, and a eighth function. EII belongs to the Delta Quadra and the Humanist Club, and its dual is an LSE. The four-letter code for EII is INFj. With respect to temperament, they have have the qualities of being introverted, rational, and static.
2. Human physical appearance refers to the outward phenotype or look of human beings. There are infinite variations in human phenotypes, though society reduces the variability to distinct categories. Physical appearance of humans, in particular those attributed which are regarded as important for physical attractiveness, are believed by anthropologists to significantly affect the development of personality and social relations. Humans are acutely sensitive to their physical appearance, some theorize for reasons of evolution. Some differences in human appearance are genetic, others are the result of age, lifestyle or disease, and many are the result of personal adornment. Some people have traditionally linked some differences in personal appearance such as skeletal shape with ethnicity, such as prognathism or elongated stride. Different cultures place different degrees of emphasis on physical appearance and its importance to social status and other phenomena.
3. Type may be related to physical appearance in two ways:
Genetic connection to socionic type - Inherited traits may be genetically connected to socionic type if socionic type is, in fact, genetic.
Lifestyle habits resulting from socionic type - Traits as a result of lifestyle habit may be connected to socionic type being related to things such as diet, posture, concern with appearance and hygiene, and other such things.