Enneagram Tritypes: Do they exist?

[Raver]

There seems to be a lack of consensus on whether tritypes exist or not. The reasons for being against the existence of such seems to be that it seems ludicrous to think that one can have three very distinct motivations occurring simultaneously. However the reasons for the existence of tritypes is that we all have head, heart and gut issues, so it's natural to assume that people will have three different kinds of Enneagram. Evidence that could go against the existence of tritypes is the already growing complexity of having instinctual stackings plus subwings of one's main Enneagram type. However, evidence that could go for the existence of tritypes are tritype archetypes, which provide adequate descriptions of having the combination of three specific enneagram types regardless of their order. Enneagram archetype descriptions can be found here: http://personalitycafe.com/enneagram...criptions.html. I'd like to hear your thoughts on whether you find tritypes to be useful and accurate or simply nonsense?

[Codie]

If I'm correct, tritypes are based on having one type for the gut, head and heart centers of the enneagram. You'll notice in anyones tritype that you can't have more than one type belonging to the same centre. i.e an "2w1, 3w4, 4w3" doesn't exist, they are all from the heart centre. You can't have three different heart energies, with no guts or brains . Tritypes explain a whole lot more than just your main type...which doesn't cover all the different aspects. They're worth looking in to.

I like this description, it would be better with wings. It's short and simple but I relate to it a ton!!

1-4-7 : perfectionistic, whimsical and rather picky, these Ones tend to be quite expressive and passionate. They want things to be a certain way and tend to reject whatever doesn’t precisely fit their desires. However when they appreciate something (an idea, a person, an activity), this tritype can over-indulge in it in an excessive, obsessional manner. They’re not as self-disciplined as other Ones and they’re prone to giving in to their fantasies and desires more, believing they are somewhat special and deserve special treatment.
usual subtypes: sexual, self-preserving.
similar tritypes: 1-7-4, 4-1-7
flavours: fastidious, expressive, impatient and original

[Gilly]

Definitely.

[Codie]

Definitely.

Whats yours? if you don't mind, I know an EIE 3w4.

[Gilly]

Whats yours? if you don't mind, I know an EIE 3w4.

3w4-8w7-6w7 sx/so

[Roro]

Why shouldn't there be a tritype? I mean, our motivations throughout life aren't always going to relate to that one dominant type. I mean, for one, think about all of the emotions we go through on a regular basis that can change our outlook on things, thus change how we are motivated to respond to those things. I don't know, I like the idea of the tritype - more to work with that way.


I am most likely 649, but my gut fix is kind of up in the air right now.

649 The Seeker. Accepting and intuitive 6. This is the most emotional and accommodating 6. This 6 has the most self-doubt and uncertainty and often seeks multiple sources of confirmation before making a decision. This 6 is very sensitive, and can be mistaken for a 4 or 2.

The 649 ponders...thinks and rethinks. They are introspective like the 459...just more people oriented. Their shame is in making a mistake...they must get it right like the 461 but do not feel that they can easily say their opinion our loud due to a fear that they might make a mistake.

[Raver]

Why shouldn't there be a tritype? I mean, our motivations throughout life aren't always going to relate to that one dominant type. I mean, for one, think about all of the emotions we go through on a regular basis that can change our outlook on things, thus change how we are motivated to respond to those things. I don't know, I like the idea of the tritype - more to work with that way.


I am most likely 649, but my gut fix is kind of up in the air right now.

I think 649 (The Seeker) seems to fit me as well, but 614 (The Philosopher) is also possible.

[Creepy-male]

The suggestion of multi-type theories are hated among majority of the typology community. The prevalent idea is that a person is one and only one type, which is inherent at birth. Tritype mildly threatens this idea hence why their is a bad reaction to it.

[Galen]

Tritype has grown on me. I certainly like the idea, if for nothing else the delineation of variation within the same type. I don't know if it has much practical application aside from just decoration though, but I'm keeping my mind open to it. Attaching wings to each type seems a bit superfluous too.

I'm probably 649. The only other possibility is 648, but the more I read about it the less I connect. The more 649 descriptions I read the more embarrassed about myself I get, haha.

[DirectorAbbie]

Sure, tritypes exist. More than wings do.

[Gilly]

The more 649 descriptions I read the more embarrassed about myself I get, haha.

Lol I find that's a good way of gauging enneagram type.

[Azure Flame]

I'm getting the general consensus that enneagram tritypes are strictly forbidden in these lands. Why?

[ashlesha]

they're not. opinion is mixed.

[Ryan]

Actually, it seems like that other forum you frequent is obsessed with it, I don't even see them use MBTI types anymore.

[Azure Flame]

@Ryan... yeah they do. I was curious why they're not the latest rage over here.

[Galen]

I think a lot of people here see tritype as just another excuse for someone to be bad at enneagram, in the same sense that DCNH is generally seen as a method only kooks who don't know what they're talking about use.

Also don't forget, Tritype is Copyright © 2003 David and Katherine Fauvre and is not to be discussed without their expressed written consent.

[glam]

I think a lot of people here see tritype as just another excuse for someone to be bad at enneagram, in the same sense that DCNH is generally seen as a method only kooks who don't know what they're talking about use.

er, speak for yourself?

[Galen]

er, speak for yourself?

I thought DCNH was mostly rejected on here? I don't see that many people talk about it seriously.

[glam]

I thought DCNH was mostly rejected on here? I don't see that many people talk about it seriously.

yeah there's not a lot of DCNH discussion, and some people may have dismissed it, but i don't get the same impression that it's widely rejected as a crackpot's theory. i think some people may not be sure how to apply it, and/or they don't necessarily see the need to use it when compared to other subtype systems.

[Katherine8]

Originally posted by Galen

I think a lot of people here see tritype as just another excuse for someone to be bad at enneagram, in the same sense that DCNH is generally seen as a method only kooks who don't know what they're talking about use.

Also don't forget, Tritype is Copyright © 2003 David and Katherine Fauvre and is not to be discussed without their expressed written consent.Also don't forget, Tritype is Copyright © 2003 David and Katherine Fauvre and is not to be discussed without their expressed written consent.[/QUOTE]

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Thank you for your concern... but this is not an accurate statement. No worries...It is my copyright and you can discuss it anyway you want. All that is required is that you state that is my work if you use it and post it. Free speech is important. The copyright is for intellectual property. So what you can't do is say it is your work and sell it using my name "Tritype." So, feel free to say anything at all, anything you desire. Really anything... I love all feedback and comments... I love criticisms as they are very helpful.

Or, if it feels better, you can say you have my written consent... Katherine Chernick Fauvre

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[Ryan]

probably because they suck, duh

but they were quite popular here, years ago, from what i've heard

the old guard still practice it in secret

[Azure Flame]

whats dcnh?

[glam]

whats dcnh?

a 4-subtype system devised by Gulenko: Dominant, Creative, Normalizing, Harmonizing

http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...tegory/47-DCNH

[Azure Flame]

I used to be open to the idea that there are lots of subtypes, but I'm more convinced each person can be dominant in each of their functions at certain times in their lives depending on circumstances.

[Saberstorm]

I like the DCHN system, but it really needs revision and or clarification. I am waiting for the DCHN version 2.0 before I really use it. It is a good idea, not ready for use. The idea is this: energy type and Socionic type are NOT identical. Thus not everybody behaves exactly like their type, as there are variations in the force they apply to each information element.

Basically, the idea is that a person could have an unusual amount of force projected into their Je Ji Pi Pe functions. If Je is given more energy, then Fe and Te are used with force. This is regardless of where Fe and Te are in their function order, thus distorting their type.

If Te is PoLR it is still "painful" for them to use it, but they do it just like people might go swimming in the winter. It hurts, but they do it.

The extra force is not an increase in the clarity of the information, although with the use of that IM, they should grow in competence.

This is one possible reason why people can be hard to type. I think it makes sense. It needs a revision to use better.


(Spelling corrected, as per K0rpsy's request.)

[Korpsy Knievel]

Since you said "irreguardless" your entire post is dismissed.

[DirectorAbbie]

I like socionics and tritype. DCNH is iffy.

[Creepy-pokeball]

I'm getting the general consensus that enneagram tritypes are strictly forbidden in these lands. Why?

It isnt forbidden, but it is one of the topics for crankiness

[RedBeard]

Basically, I think a theory is only as useful as much as it helps you just get over yourself and move on.

"Tritype" seems to convolute that process by giving you a shiny star, a ribbon, and a scratch 'n' sniff sticker meant to make you feel special.

[squark]

Basically, I think a theory is only as useful as much as it helps you just get over yourself and move on.

"Tritype" seems to convolute that process by giving you a shiny star, a ribbon, and a scratch 'n' sniff sticker meant to make you feel special.

Yes. I very much agree.

[woofwoofl]

Sure. 368 = FRED DURST tritype. That alone makes it more than worth it. Things like triple assertive, triple reactive, triple rejection, triple anything; the more I got in the arsenal to identify once a vague impression hits me, the better, and being able to feel out something more wide-range like a tritype combination with no at-the-time definite permutation makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than choosing between the polarities of either a glorified wild guess or absolutely fucking nothing at all.

[Froody Blue Gem]

While our core explains much of who we are and our motivations, human beings are very complicated. One type can explain a lot, but in my experience with ennea, people relate to multiple types to an extent, so tritype helps to tie that all together rather than just someone just being one type and the other options being out of the running period. The strength of the fixes ties it together even more so, the last fix being present but having the least influence. Some may be more balanced with their second and third fixes, or be balanced with their first two while the third is on the tailend of influence. Relating to multiple types from the different triads, the different parts of our tritype can work together to make up who we are, and type integration/disintegration goes even more into this.

I have heard it said that fixes don't integrate/disintegrate, but thinking about the possibility of that happening, that would explain even more. I believe The Wisdom of The Enneagram mentions that everyone has a little bit of all of the types within them somewhere in the intro. Having prime energies from the heart, the gut, and the head, and having a dominant fix for each would only make sense.