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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    conclusion, when adding the results of both test, we do worse than a monkey (=random) would have done.

    VI of pictures is completely unreliable. I think I will refer often to this experiment.

    Thanks everyone for participating.
    1. I do not claim to be adept at VI
    2. VIing itself is not a complete science, just as socionics is not a complete science.
    3. Ephemeros's typings could be wrong.

    So you should not conclude any such thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
    1. I do not claim to be adept at VI
    2. VIing itself is not a complete science, just as socionics is not a complete science.
    3. Ephemeros's typings could be wrong.

    So you should not conclude any such thing.
    Yes all your points are right, and ofcourse this experiment is not the ultimate scientific approach, yet it does mean something. Let's at least conclude that VI isn't as easy as sometimes portrayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Yes all your points are right, and ofcourse this experiment is not the ultimate scientific approach, yet it does mean something. Let's at least conclude that VI isn't as easy as sometimes portrayed.
    Where have you seen it portrayed as easy? I think the general consensus here is that quite often people are wrong. Its hard to use VI, its even harder to do it just from photos alone. It can be as an additional tool but I know only one person who uses mostly VI to identify types.
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    Yeah, to me its more of a side hobby to work on and practice.

    So this thread is somewhat useful because its gets you to at least notice facial patterns even if you can't figure out type. When you do figure out the type whether of someone here or irl, then you will have a catalogue of expressions and features to lookf for or piece together.

    I would not say that VI is substantial evidence of type, but thats not due to the premise that type manifests itself physically, but due to the primitive stage of our VI skillz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    I think it's ok to give away the results, without any more lag.

    A: ILI - Ni
    D: SEI - Si
    J: LIE - Te

    I'm not sure of D's subtype, but the type is correct.
    After seeing these result, I think these typings could be correct. Especially the ILI girl, least sure about the SEI guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    D's type is the most certain for me, I can assure you of this. I walked and talked a lot with him, we even went together to a fitness club. Of course I wasn't able to frequent it more than one month, especially because D was forgetting to come to our appointments and I hate going there alone :|.
    Just found one of his galleries online, I think it's kinda old: My Web Page. Of course this does not imply he's SEI, but whatever.
    The first rule of fight club is... oh wait...

    The first rule of VI experiments is, we don't doubt the pic poster in his typings.
    (To avoid boring and mostly unnecessary discussions, and scare away future pic posters).

    So don't feel obliged to defend. But to add, I think the SEI guy is correct too. His typical goofy lauch pic (1st) reminds me of an SEI. So I guess we can all agree on the correct typings now. We're just lousy at VI :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ephemeros View Post
    I'm committed to the rule, too.
    I just wanted the participants to be confident and able to use this experience in the future, to compare, extract ideas.

    edit: Would we continue then?
    Ah oke, yes that's a good idea then, and yes we can ofcourse continue if there are volunteers...

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    @ephemeros

    to check how well you are doing in VI

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    by clicking on a picture you get 12 pics of that type.

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    VI these people, if you wish:

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    Shouldn't this be in anything goes, or alpha, heh.

    I suppose i'm maybe just being a party pooper, but, i'm assuming this isn't serious.

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    Hmm they all seem quite Melancholy Phlegmatic to me. Pay particular attention to the 'gaze' of the eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Shouldn't this be in anything goes, or alpha, heh.

    I suppose i'm maybe just being a party pooper, but, i'm assuming this isn't serious.
    Oh it's prefectly serious. The gaze of the eyes are the most important feature of typing via VI. I'm just interested to see what you guys come with - I'm testing the validity of all this.

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    Anyway, I'm primarily interested in their Socionics types...unless your powers defeat you of course.

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    (D) is choleric LSE.

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    C - might be SLI
    H - might be IEE
    I - might be some Fe type

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    ...getting warm

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    Eyes are important, but so is the mouth and area surrounding both features.

    Multiple pictures are helpful as is context.

    This would be last case VIing, so you have proven nothing you smarmy shit
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