No, I really can't, although I do thank you for the compliment.
The way the mobilizing function manifests in someone's behavior is to be analyzed in terms of behavioral patterns. Just a single instance of how someone got dressed up for an event isn't the same thing as a behavioral pattern. And I don't know enough about Kutcher to have an opinion about his behavioral patterns.
But fwiw, I do think Kutcher is LSE, but the only reason I think so are the feelings of transference, which don't satisfy positivistic scientific demands.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Consensus ahoy, land ahoy.
http://www.justjared.com/2012/04/18/...ay-steve-jobs/
Last edited by Absurd; 12-22-2012 at 06:29 PM.
Observe, in this video, how Arnold's Ne Mobilizing works, which is HA, he thinks of an idea and then evolves on the idea: Well maybe the movie can be called "mr freeze" etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=1vFjqsLTp24
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Liev Shreiber
Te-LSE.
And many of his movie characters.
Last edited by wacey; 02-23-2013 at 12:00 PM.
Ok so here's a story...
Today, I was walking down to the platform level where the metro stops and on my way down the escalator, from afar, I type and LSE and he's talking to an SLI; I noticed his face, he had been drinking, was red, and his movements indicated that he was intoxicated. I wanted to eavesdrop (I can hear Michael's voice in my ear saying "Maritsa!") so I got very close to them and stood almost next to the SLI pretending to not look. I should have known the LSE would have noticed me; when the train pulled up, him, having dropped his social awareness, etiquette, due to the alcohol, said loudly about me, "clear the way, a beautiful young lady's coming through and she's right behind me." He walked in front of me and cleared the crowd and made way for me to get in the train; once in the train he quickly looked around for seats and said "sit here!" in the LSE directive fashion. He also directed the SLI to to sit next to me and instructed him "protect her on her ride home, I get off the next stop." Turned to me and said "young lady, I'm telling this man to protect you." When he got off, the SLI and I had a type related convo and he said he could see how the LSE man and him would make good friends.
OMG. That was an unusual and nice moment.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You presented yourself on a silver plate to an LSE, but the guy was too drunk to recognize a great opportunity to get laid! Awesome, non-boring LSE indeed!
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Here are some video examples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrYSG...=results_video
Watch this movie, the guy, Liev Shreiber, is so stereotypical TE-LSE and his friend, Ned Beatty I could say is Fi-EII. A nice example of this strange duality pairing:
"Spring Forward"
http://www.reelz.com/movie/208067/sp...OnReelzChannel
The movie is very "Delta", lots of just chatting around at work, being productive and taking about personal convictions, all in a non-chalant no nonsense way. There is even a IEE who shows up as a love interest for Liev. Really heartfelt BUT nonsentimental. I liked it, maybe some other deltas could watch it and let me know. It is on netflix. The trailer really over does the emotional aspects, tthere just is not a string quartet blasting in the background all the time. "Spring Forward". Plus I worked as a landscaper for private companies and a city municipality, so I could relate to the job the two actors were doing.
Last edited by wacey; 01-17-2013 at 06:23 PM.
For some reason I have a negative reaction to that actor's appearance creeping up from somewhere deep in my memory. Maybe it's some movie where he played an asshole villain that left traces in my brain, I don't know. Will watch Spring Forward, even though the trailer doesn't really deliver.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Originally Posted by Gilly
He often plays a slimy asshole villian. For example, "Phantoms", "Scream", and "The Manchurian Candidate". So that could be it. He is funny enough in a play on broadway that also stars Scarlett Johansson, your starlett crush?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I see you became an adult without my consent, consetingadult.
[] | NP | 3[6w5]8 so/sp | Type thread | My typing of forum members | Johari (Strengths) | Nohari (Weaknesses)
You know what? You're an individual, and that makes people nervous. And it's gonna keep making people nervous for the rest of your life. - Ole Golly from Harriet, the spy.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
wow, where did you find her? LOL
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Socionics-wise, that is actually a great video, showing Beta and Delta behaviors. Watch the intra-Delta interaction between Kaufman and Marloes Coenen (also Delta-ST) starting at 3:53! They seemed just an inch away from giving each other a hug. Not convinced about Kaufman's type though.
ETA:
this really turns me on:
fight1.jpg
this doesn't:
fight2.jpg
Last edited by consentingadult; 01-24-2013 at 01:25 PM.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Lance Armstrong Si-LSE
An LSE making a grave error in an ethical situation?And then lying about it to everyone? And then suing those people, including newspapers and companies that called him a liar? And then getting caught and still lying about it? And then trying to make it all better in one shallow interview?
You don't say.
Well, the ends justify the means because his legacy did raise millions of dollars for cancer research........
Last edited by wacey; 02-12-2013 at 12:52 AM.
SELF-DUALIZE ASHTON
IT'S THE ONLY WAY
Roald Amundsen - LSE - Norwegian explorer who spent his life exploring polar regions, the first person to reach the South Pole among a few other other expeditions he's led
I may say that this is the greatest factor — the way in which the expedition is equipped — the way in which every difficulty is foreseen, and precautions taken for meeting or avoiding it. Victory awaits him who has everything in order — luck, people call it. Defeat is certain for him who has neglected to take the necessary precautions in time; this is called bad luck.
— from The South Pole, by Roald Amundsen
"Is this really a Polar ship?" people asked; ... our paper-supply which was in all respects as fine and elegant as it could be: ... From one of the largest houses in Christiania we had a complete set of kitchen utensils and breakfast and dinner services, all of the best kind. ... We carried an extraordinarily copious library; presents of books were showered upon us in great quantities. I suppose the Fram's library at the present moment contains at least 3,000 volumes.
— from The South Pole, by Roald Amundsen
We see many fine sunsets here, unique in the splendour of their colour. No doubt the surroundings in this fairyland of blue and white do much to increase their beauty.
— from The South Pole, by Roald Amundsen
... the brilliant aurora australis. ... flush of daylight has moved to the north, ... but it shows nevertheless that we have daylight here at the darkest time of the year, so there is not the absolute darkness that people think.
— from The South Pole, by Roald Amundsen explaining why the Antarctic winter is not all dark
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Jackson Katz - possibly LSE sp/sx (low confidence typing)
http://www.ted.com/speakers/jackson_katz.html
Michał Jelonek - LSE-Te - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Jelonek
Blake Shelton - LSE-Te
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaWZWkpDbyA
Last edited by silke; 02-07-2014 at 05:35 AM.
rofl, ain't he just havin fun up there
Mimi Chakarova - LSE-Si, photojournalist and director of the documentary The Price of Sex
Marista has me as an awesome non-boring LSE...
Socionics -
the16types.info
To be fair with you I even have trouble seeing you as an LII, you don't seem to have an idiosyncratic archive of knowledge, a personal world view that is somewhat detached from the norm; and also an other ''worldliness'' logic, vibe is always given up by them. From the way you display your knowledge I get the impression that you know what you know and you are fairly confident about that; you always address the situation appropriately, your logic is inline with the circumstance. Also by no means do I imply in any way that you don't think or don't have your own unique perception of the world since you do. You just don't give off the vibe that you are in your own cocoon, being out of touch with reality frankly.
By the way, I'm not having a go at you, I know you've labeled me as one of those arrogant people who've found the ''right'' socionics they intend to rub on others
Last edited by Soupman; 11-20-2013 at 07:44 PM.
I've never labeled you ... anyway, I am at the stage of applying my knowledge right now, all my oddities are being forced to grow into something productive. I try not to comment deeply on anything here, as it does not match my purposes. I keep my actual thoughts private.
Socionics -
the16types.info
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I can watch this LSE work for hours on end and I do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6_fUPVf4g
Maritsa's quick method of typing an LSE:
Watch the way they talk. LSE have a tendency to not be very dramatic mouth movers. They lock the muscles on either side of their lips so the lips look like they hardly move but in actuality when you listen to them their voice comes out stronger and more apparent than the lip movement. Watch carefully and you'll notice the same.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html