ISTps and ESTjs expressing/showing their feelings

[InkStrider]

Fuck you ink. Do you know what I mean by pining? LSE have fucking emotions too, I don't deny that, and are very sentimental.

But delta STs don't pine. They keep moving on, because it's the only thing to do to keep them alive.

Yes, this is true. Fair enough, I misunderstood you if you had meant pining to be in its emotionally expressive and indulgent form. What I want to point out though, is precisely this. Delta STs may keep moving, but it hardly means that their hearts have moved along as well. Which is why I felt that your original advice for Pauluch to not butter feet is unwise.

IMO, Parksters advice to listen to our own instincts is the best. Although the problem will then be in determining which is the instinct and which the doubt.

[force my hand]

IMO, Parksters advice to listen to our own instincts is the best. Although the problem will then be in determining which is the instinct and which the doubt.

That's an interesting statement - can you expand?

[InkStrider]

That's an interesting statement - can you expand?

As we start to examine ourselves on our own instincts, we would often experience two conflicting forces. We call one the 'true instinct' and the other the 'conflicting doubt'. We never know which is which until the result has been determined, in which we then curse ourselves for not listening to one, or breathe in relief for having listened to the other. The result: whether favourable or unfavourable, determines which is which.

In this sense, there is no clear instinct. Unless we are so certain as to have no doubt, in which the instinct is truly the instinct, which is rarely the case.

[Park]

I see what you're saying, Ink. But even in such cases there's usually a slight leaning towards one choice or course of action that outweighs the other(s). It's the feeling that stays with you and resides within (even) when you stop thinking about your dilemma. I agree that it can be minute and hard to identify sometimes, but it's usually there.

In the case of Pauluch, the doubts she has are not instinctual, they are on a lower, more superficial level. To be honest, sounds like normal anxiety to me, more than anything else.

[InkStrider]

I see what you're saying, Ink, but even in such cases there's usually a slight leaning towards one choice or course of action that outweighs the other(s). It's the feeling that stays with you and resides within (even) when you stop thinking about your dilemma. I agree that it can be minute and hard to identify sometimes, but it's usually there.

Lol, you may be right. Problem is I suck ass at it. It is only by a stroke of luck that I hit the right note, so it feels like a gamble. Examine it too much, and you get yourself confused. I often act upon the wrong feeling because the original feels improbable/impossible/too good to be true or I just randomly pick and hope it's the right choice. But most likely some people are better at recognizing the right feeling, so it could possibly be a very effective tool if you are good at identifying it.

[Park]

Well, thinking back, some of the major mistakes I've made in my life have been due to not listening to my gut feeling, and giving in to someone else's expectations/demands (sometimes my own), or following the line of least resistance. Whenever I've complied to do something that felt wrong, no matter how logical or rational it seemed behind some fake rationale, it almost always has shown to be a mistake, usually biting me back.

[Reuben]

Clear instinct is the one that when you act upon, removes fear. Doubt is the one that when acted upon, creates fear. When you're moving in either, you will know.