Philosophy of Types (Gulenko)

[Azeroffs]

Actually, what I got from the LIE description is that they view things in terms of the world just being what it is. It is what it is and it'll go the way it goes. Nature in the sense of the natural world just functions the way it will. 'Animating nature' is just another way of saying they make the most of what naturally occurs, and so they just make the best of a situation.

I actually think it's a really good depiction of typical LIE mentality assuming I interpreted it correctly.

Not sure. You may not be quite articulating it clearly, but I don't really jibe with what you're saying there.

Actually, after reading it again, I'm starting to think it may have more to do with just life, but.. I just noticed that all the other descriptions basically say "the world is ruled by x." The LIE description seemed to be saying that LIE tries to take the world for what it is. It isn't ruled by anything other than what just happens. Shit goes down no matter how you think about it, and you do the best you can to work with it.

"Whether it makes sense or not and whether it is good or not doesn't really matter. All that really matters is that it is what it is and what we want to do about it."

@Gilly
I don't mean the mentality is about perpetuating whatever is happening or that there is no sense in changing things if that's how you understood me.

[Gilly]

No, I didn't mean that specifically; rather that they see it as futile to go against what they see as "natural order," and the unfortunate resignation that comes with such an attitude.

[Azeroffs]

I don't think that resignation is a necessary consequence. People can just as easily decide to change the way they view things to be naturally going.

The significance of the mentality is that it releases you from negative reactions that would cloud a person from being able to react to the situation with a clear and level head. In other words, the situation isn't good or bad, it's just one that is and must now be acted upon through active or passive decision.

Eh, the more I think about it, the more I think this is irrelevant to what Gulenko was saying.

[Gilly]

Yeah me too.

[Gilly]

FOR THE POLITICALLY CORRECT OF MIND

I'm not accusing all LIEs of being drones. Just saying there is an ironic resonance in the description with I have witnessed in it's most pathetic form first hand.