I got my results back for the Genographic Project!

[Mariano Rajoy]

weird

[Mariano Rajoy]

is this anyone we know? http://www.simplysocionics.com/

genographic project atlas is pretty cool, too bad i dont want to give em money to analyse my dna

[Catholic Schoolboy]

That's pretty awesome. I imagine it would be especially cool for African Americans, and really just Americans in general because it's such a mixed society.

My results would be unamusing though.

[Ms. Kensington]

hm this is kinda interesting. makes me want to get my finger pricked

[Angel von Himmel]

It says that I'm part of Haplogroup K. That does make sense.


I'm so happy!

You know what that map is saying? It is saying you are Turkish or Finnish, because the linguistic groups of Turks and Finns are all in the same family, as well as the people being in the same genetic family.

[Angel von Himmel]

And apparently Oetzi the Iceman is your cousin, congratualtions, lol.

http://www.familytreedna.com/(33t00u55sh01lx45ovn2wmyp)/public/mtDNA_K/index.aspx

[Angel von Himmel]

Hah! I was thinking about getting myself DNA tested and just realized alot of this information is available for free on-line. I messed around on Google and found that a couple of realitives of mine [looks like distant cousins] already have been DNA tested and put into a Haplogroup.

http://www.ysearch.org/gedcom_show.a...=&startposn=26

I'm related to all of these guys ... actually, I might be on this webpage now.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....clan/mcnew.htm

[Angel von Himmel]

Ohh yeah, I'd look at that link too ... you might have some realitives on there.

[Angel von Himmel]

McNew family name is genetically related to McNutt ... lol

http://www.ysearch.org/lastname_last...n=&excludeuid=

[Fermi]

haha, that is hilarious

[Angel von Himmel]

I think I am R1b from just typing in last names I know I am related too on the ysearch website, they all came out R1b. Though I don't know for sure since I have not really tested myself....

Kraus!!!! We are Genetic Neighbors!! Har Har!

[discojoe]

I think I am R1b from just typing in last names I know I am related too on the ysearch website, they all came out R1b. Though I don't know for sure since I have not really tested myself....

Kraus!!!! We are Genetic Neighbors!! Har Har!

HOW STRANGELY EROTIC

[Angel von Himmel]

Wow!!! I even have my own caveman cousin, the Cro-Magnon!

In your face Oetze! Haha!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M343

[Angel von Himmel]

And yet another place to search out genetic types of last names.

http://www.ybase.org/demo.asp

[Angel von Himmel]

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science...-project_x.htm

[Angel von Himmel]

http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/Wo...groupsMaps.pdf

[Angel von Himmel]

http://www.dnaheritage.com/ysnptree.asp

[implied]

i'm likely R1b as well, just due to the fact that most of my family is from northern spain.

[Angel von Himmel]

i'm likely R1b as well, just due to the fact that most of my family is from northern spain.

Yeah, Spain has the highest concentration of that supposedly. Most Europeans in general tend towards R1b, especially those of Celtic decent in France and the Britain isles apparently. The Celts origionated from around spain actually.

[Fermi]

How do you check you DNA?

[Angel von Himmel]

How do you check you DNA?

You order a cheek swab kit and then send it to a lab.

[Scrummy]

We had this done in a molecular biology class in high school from a different lab. I got R2.

[Angel von Himmel]

We had this done in a molecular biology class in high school from a different lab. I got R2.

That is interesting, because I read somewhere that R1 and R2 are related forms, except that R1 is based primarily in people with Western European decent and R2 is primarily based in People From Eastern Indian decent.

[Ms. Kensington]

still it made me want to get my finger pricked.

i think its because this thread reminded me of the physicality of our bodies being.. physical

[Scrummy]

I didn't even need to get a cheek swab done. They actually just had us chew on gum for the sample, lol.

That is interesting, because I read somewhere that R1 and R2 are related forms, except that R1 is based primarily in people with Western European decent and R2 is primarily based in People From Eastern Indian decent.

Yeah, its an unusual strain. On the info that they sent back to us in that class is said the highest concentration of R2 people was in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, and in the West among a few scattered gypsy tribes. Interesting that the R1 and R2 strains are related though. I wonder how that worked out.

[CuriousSoul]

You know what that map is saying? It is saying you are Turkish or Finnish, because the linguistic groups of Turks and Finns are all in the same family, as well as the people being in the same genetic family.

Incorrect.
Finnish and Turkish are not linguistically related, and even Hungarian is no closer to Finnish than Hindi is to English. Finnish paternal lineages (Y-chromosome haplogroups) are largely shared with other Uralic people, though not with the Hungarians, as well as the Baltic peoples, whereas the maternal lineages (mtDNA) are generally shared with most non-related European peoples. Finally, I just wanted to butt in and post this cool map:

[Angel von Himmel]

You know what that map is saying? It is saying you are Turkish or Finnish, because the linguistic groups of Turks and Finns are all in the same family, as well as the people being in the same genetic family.

Incorrect.
Finnish and Turkish are not linguistically related, and even Hungarian is no closer to Finnish than Hindi is to English. Finnish paternal lineages (Y-chromosome haplogroups) are largely shared with other Uralic people, though not with the Hungarians, as well as the Baltic peoples, whereas the maternal lineages (mtDNA) are generally shared with most non-related European peoples. Finally, I just wanted to butt in and post this cool map:

Well, I disagree with you. And it is alright 'cause it does not totally matter anyways, but just in case I will post this.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/l...finnougric.htm

Finland, Hungary, Estonia and a few other European countries speak a language unrelated to those of their neighbors. Most Europeans speak an Indo-European language, many the descendants of Latin (the Romance languages), but not these. Their language comes from the Finno-Ugric group, which is believed to have started in the region of the Volga River and Ural Mountains.
The two main divisions of the Finno-Ugric group of languages are, not surprisingly, Finnish and Ugric. The Finnish speakers live between Norway and the White Sea, Finland, Estonia, and parts of Russia. The Ugric languages are Hungarian, Khanty (or Ostyak), and Mansi (or Vogul), to the east of the Urals.
There are other Finno-Ugric languages spoken within Russia.

Some believe the Finno-Ugric languages share a common ancestry with Turkish and Japanese.

Read above .... Then go back and look at the map that Kraus posted and see where all the stops are at.

Nevermind, I emphasized it for you.

[CuriousSoul]

Well, I disagree with you. And it is alright 'cause it does not totally matter anyways, but just in case I will post this.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/l...finnougric.htm

Finland, Hungary, Estonia and a few other European countries speak a language unrelated to those of their neighbors. Most Europeans speak an Indo-European language, many the descendants of Latin (the Romance languages), but not these. Their language comes from the Finno-Ugric group, which is believed to have started in the region of the Volga River and Ural Mountains.
The two main divisions of the Finno-Ugric group of languages are, not surprisingly, Finnish and Ugric. The Finnish speakers live between Norway and the White Sea, Finland, Estonia, and parts of Russia. The Ugric languages are Hungarian, Khanty (or Ostyak), and Mansi (or Vogul), to the east of the Urals.
There are other Finno-Ugric languages spoken within Russia.

Some believe the Finno-Ugric languages share a common ancestry with Turkish and Japanese.

Read above .... Then go back and look at the map that Kraus posted and see where all the stops are at.

Those maps have a somewhat different time depth. The Finno-Ugric languages can be traced back to proto-Uralic about six thousand years ago by most estimates, whereas the genetic lineages are much much older, something like twenty to forty thousand years. It is likely that people have changed their languages a number of times during that time. To speculate that far back in time is basically just wild ass guessing.

The hypothesis that Finnic languages are related to Turkish languages has been debated for well over hundred years now. There are some structural similarities in the grammar but these are probably just conincidental since there are only a number of ways languages can be constructed and similar patterns can be found in the languages of New Guinea, for example. I could try to dig some links for you if you are interested. Linguistics is endlessly fascinating, though more popular topic on this side of the Ocean.

[Angel von Himmel]

Well, I disagree with you. And it is alright 'cause it does not totally matter anyways, but just in case I will post this.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/l...finnougric.htm

Finland, Hungary, Estonia and a few other European countries speak a language unrelated to those of their neighbors. Most Europeans speak an Indo-European language, many the descendants of Latin (the Romance languages), but not these. Their language comes from the Finno-Ugric group, which is believed to have started in the region of the Volga River and Ural Mountains.
The two main divisions of the Finno-Ugric group of languages are, not surprisingly, Finnish and Ugric. The Finnish speakers live between Norway and the White Sea, Finland, Estonia, and parts of Russia. The Ugric languages are Hungarian, Khanty (or Ostyak), and Mansi (or Vogul), to the east of the Urals.
There are other Finno-Ugric languages spoken within Russia.

Some believe the Finno-Ugric languages share a common ancestry with Turkish and Japanese.

Read above .... Then go back and look at the map that Kraus posted and see where all the stops are at.

Those maps have a somewhat different time depth. The Finno-Ugric languages can be traced back to proto-Uralic about six thousand years ago by most estimates, whereas the genetic lineages are much much older, something like twenty to forty thousand years. It is likely that people have changed their languages a number of times during that time. To speculate that far back in time is basically just wild ass guessing.

The hypothesis that Finnic languages are related to Turkish languages has been debated for well over hundred years now. There are some structural similarities in the grammar but these are probably just conincidental since there are only a number of ways languages can be constructed and similar patterns can be found in the languages of New Guinea, for example. I could try to dig some links for you if you are interested. Linguistics is endlessly fascinating, though more popular topic on this side of the Ocean.

It is all wild ass guessing, unless you want to believe in an event happening with something resembling the "tower of babel" story, which actually can be a valid debate among lingualist regardless of a persons stance on the existance of God or validity of the bible.

[implied]

haplogroup HV*. ^_^

mtdna is totally neat.