So what pushed this guy over the edge between WoW player and mass killer?
Death knights. The imbalance drove him into rage.
Seriously, you can tell by his smile his personality is a facade. It's is a scam covering up his base impulses, hiding them behind good social values. He has a contradictory desire to be known as both ordinary and extraordinary. Desires notoriety but demands humility. See his right wing fanaticalism, his claims to be a christian. In that sense he is very much like Maritsa. At the same time he has a strong sense of entitlement which he probably felt was being deprived of him through forced conformity combined with his repressed base impulses. The conformity he projected onto the labor party while the repressed impulses radicalized and targeted the perceived oppressor.
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From what I've seen until now, I'd probably type him -ISTj as well.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
My guess would be ISTP-Te.
But so far I'm not convinced about which type he is.
Oh. Lying again. Nice.
For the record, that's not what I was doing at all. If you have two brain cells and the ability to read you would note that that is very much exactly NOT what I was doing. While you are a lying piece of crud, I most certainly am not and proclaim only what the evidence points me toward. If you did have that half a brain you would have noted that if anything I was most willing to empathize even with this person while I simultaneously find his actions very very disturbing.
Rude, unkind, impolite, oversexual. You must be describing yourself.
First eliminate every possible source of error. Thence success is inevitable.
Yeah I looked up everything I could on him as soon as I saw the news. Fucking disgusting, why kill healthy, innocent teens to prove a point? Idk why that pisses me off the most. Go after old farts who you think fucked your country over if you must. 98 killed and only MAXIMUM 21 years . thats disgusting. Copy cats will follow suit. I want to torture him myself. slowly.
Haha! Thanks Ashton for posting this thread, beer's on me.
That's the problem. He, himself, is a copy cat, he did exactly the same thing as 3 people before him, to a greater extent though. Nothing creative there.
EDIT: Oh yea, I think he is either LSI or LII although leaning LSI, sounds a lot better.
Last edited by Absurd; 07-25-2011 at 04:48 PM.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14267007
After reading this I'm thinking more LII>LSI.
More pics and a bit of analysis:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14259989
So, there's David Lane, Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh, and Vidkun Quisling, Varg Vikernes and last but not least Anders Behring Breivik in Norway alone.
There's a couple of those on this forum.While he openly expressed these views online, there was little to indicate that the young man - described by friends as quiet, friendly and ordinary - would go on to kill dozens of people, many in cold blood.
This is what puzzles me. That Breivik was quite mainstream and that he did not stand out with a particularly aggressive or violent rhetoric."I was the single opposing voice, arguing against the xenophobic, Islamaphobic postings and comments that were the norm on this page, and Breivik did not stand out with a particularly aggressive or violent rhetoric. He was quite mainstream," Mr Buehler said.
I can't see your point, since age doesn't matter when there's a specific strategy. It is not a matter of revenge or anger, it's politics, having the next 80 years in mind. From what I read, he targeted the young leftist adherents for a maximum impact, though I don't understand how this was supposed to have greater effect than say attacking a multibullshit press conference.
He said he does not hate, not even Muslims. He said that if Muslims got out of Europe he would have no problem with them and that he quit/refused joining extreme-right groups mainly because of their hate ideology. Secret services (1) "eliminate" a lot of "innocent" political adversaries without hating them, if you use the same notions here, you get a picture that makes more sense.
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@ crazed and tcaudillg: I enjoy reading your hilarious fantasies, please post more.
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(1) - the same goes for revolutionary resistances.
Q: Can significant indirect damage against civilians be justified?
A: Yes and no. It can be justified in the sense that it is the only pragmatical way to move forward. When someone blows up a government building it is obviously not with the intention to kill the cleaning lady or the janitor. The target has been selected after careful consideration because it will yield the wanted results.
There are extreme and moderate forces. We are all cultural conservatives even though we use different means. We have taken it upon ourselves to use brute, cynical force so other people don’t have to. The other political fronts should welcome it as a necessary evil in order to rid ourselves of a much greater evil.
Innocent people will die, in the thousands. But it is still better than the alternative; millions of dead Europeans, which is the worst case phase 3 scenario.Obviously, the PCCTS, Knights Templar does not have mass appeal as we are a relatively cynical/cruel/goal oriented armed resistance group. However, our primary foundational principles (a majority of them) still have mass appeal and are supported by as many as 50-60% of all Europeans. The reason for this is due to the fact that we oppose ALL hate ideologies and we consider it illogical to fight hate with hate. Of course, this does not mean that we will use less brutal methods in our operations. It only means that our foundational ideological principles will have mass appeal to a majority of Europeans..Q: What motivates you? How have you managed to stay focused and motivated for more than 8 years? Is it bitterness and hate towards the so called ”cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites” or perhaps towards Islam?
A: No, not at all. In fact, if they (the cultural Marxists) against all odds renounced multiculturalism today, halted all Muslim immigration and started deportation of all Muslims I would forgive them for their past crimes, and I think most Europeans would as well, despite the fact that more than 15 000 Europeans have died and 500 000 have been raped and/or ravaged physically or mentally due to multiculturalism. If they refuse to surrender before 2020 it will be no turning back. We will eventually annihilate every single one of them. They should know this so I hope they surrender before the deadline.
If they continue to defy the will of Europeans for decades to come and force Europe to the brink of catastrophe, they will be shown no mercy. It will be an extremely bloody reckoning and thousands of them will most likely be executed.
Secondly, I don’t hate Muslims at all. I acknowledge that there are magnificent Muslim individuals in Europe. In fact, I have had several Muslim friends over the years, some of which I still respect. This does not mean however that I will accept an Islamic presence in Europe. Muslim individuals who do not assimilate 100% within 2020 will be deported as soon as we manage to seize power.
He's not cool and collected SLI as I thought to read from his planning methodology.
He has this clownish smile on his face on nearly every pic that has been made of him the last few days.
So here's my new, very low certainty guess: IEI
perhaps: ENTJ
probably: some delta, trying to preserve the order and 'purity' of his country, I'd say ISTP.
unlikely: ISTJ, ESTP, ESFP or any beta.
doesn't look like ISTJ to me, looks like a crazy delta trying to save his country from a perceived muslim invasion which would bring social chaos etc.
He strikes me as LSI or LII from what I know of him.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
Are you high? It's fucking self explanatory. 87 children were slaughtered on an island by a madman who thinks his actions are going to spark an anti-islamic revolution. They won't, the only thing he accomplished was killing them all. Children who he crazilly labeled 'labor party children' just because they happened to go to summer camp run by the labor party. As if children have formed their political views. What amazes me is you identify with his delusional narcissism (a trait you both share), and here you are defending his ideas as somehow.. objectively justified? You miserable, feeble little shit. Your father should of beaten you more.
There's nothing objective about his delusions, they're idealistic as all hell.
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i got ESTp vibes from him; emphatically Static ones. the shape of the head is something commonly found among ESTps:
http://www.socioniko.net/ru/type-foto/fl-fil.html
by some creepy twist of fate i find the best examples of it among the females...
Seems beta to me, LSI works. Don't think this guy is irrational.
There does seem to be missing that "let's lead!" ethos. This guy is not playing the leader at all... in fact he is very dutifully unraveling the entire Norway Supremacist network. No concern for his "comrades" at all. He seems to accepted the judgment of his society that his way was the wrong way. Typical for a defeated conservative.
I'm sure when the interview comes along he'll be perfectly transparent.
Something when I first saw his picture, reminded me of Lunar Silver Star Story's Ghaleon. Just a little less egotistical.
The execution style procession reminds of the Terminator.
His father criticized his choice today, saying that he should have chose to kill himself instead of these others.... My... that's a haunting example. No telling how many suicides that statement will anchor.
his eyes don't look like those of an introvert to me. they radiate outward, looking for connection...
i'm curious why everyone so eagerly locks him down as a J type when it is stereotypically the P types that are more inclined to cross social and societal boundaries. i think the case for a P type can explicitly be made on this basis.
oh god, don't make me read the definition of the ethical PoLRs to you. you people are embarrassing.