Questionnaires are fun to answer because I get to talk about myself!

[Absurd]

why do you have so much interest in homosexual betas?

I like to tell jokes about them.

Seriously, though, I meet them in my chapel, I have yrs of practice with them.

I think it's really something what you do here, placing him in gamma, I would like to see more.

[silke]

why do you have so much interest in homosexual betas?

I like to tell jokes about them.

I see ... the kind of attention that you give them sometimes makes me wonder lol

[Absurd]

I see ... the kind of attention that you give them sometimes makes me wonder lol

Well, I am a well known person for taking homosexual ones, helping them straighten up. Whatever it takes. You don't happen to be homosexual, siuntal ?

[silke]

... You don't happen to be homosexual, siuntal ?

lets pretend that I am, do you have a joke ready?

[Absurd]

lets pretend that I am, do you have a joke ready?

What does a homo and an ambulance have in common? They both get loaded from the rear and go WHOO! WHOO!

[Kierva]

So I'm just going to randomly vomit whatever I can find in my memory bank.

Any type can be suggested as long as you have basis (eg. quotes from my posts) to support your claims.

Hmm. Let's see...

There's not really a reason as to why I'm making this thread, it's just that it's fun to make type-me threads and that I find it rather "productive" (even if it confuses me) because I get to know more about first impressions of me online. Besides it's only legit if I have a type-me thread on a personality forum.

I've been told I'm too fun/bubbly/whatever <insert feely adjective here> because my sense of humor online is light-hearted and I like to shock people for the fun of it. The reason why I do this online is because I can get away with it without any sort of consequence to it. I have more liberty to choose my audience online than I do IRL. There's always some sort of shit that could happen IRL - prejudice etc; I work in a team-based environment and it's essential that my rep be clean because where I am it's rather retarded socially (them not knowing I'm GHEY). I can't possibly get cooperation or direct people in a team if those close-minded idiots know I'm ghey.

I am quite aware of my usual first impressions online (this thread might change the usual). From what I gather I give off this gay vibe -- the literal and social connotation. I also like to shock people online by showing people homo erotica and <insert sexually charged gay stuff here>. My sense of humor is rather sexually charged. I honestly don't know where the "light-hearted" stuff came from.

In person I am rather stand-offish in new social situations, it's not really a wariness. It's just apathy and the want to fade in and observe. In this respect I can come off quite cold and it would rather contradict my online persona. I usually just go about following others. Usually this social situation that causes me to be like this has more than 6 people. I don't like big groups that I have to get close to. If it's a presentation I am able to convey my message to a large audience but if it's mingling around without a specific purpose or no immediate benefit then I just shut off.

At class or when I'm doing work I've been told I'm quite intimidating because I seem to know everything and what's the best thing to do. Those people in a group with me - the facilitator usually gives the best comments to my group's presentation. People in my group usually come to me for instructions and I'm usually the one generating ideas/questions to solve the day's problem and the rest seem like my mules in comparison to myself. So it's like a one-man show with a bunch of mules to play around with. I've also been told that it's rather stressful working with me because I have the end goal in my head -- to get an A grade for the day (and I make sure I earn it!). We're graded daily. Coming back, my facilitators have told me that I am "actively engaged" in group discussions and "conscientious" when it comes to the execution phase of doing the presentation. They have also commented on the delivery of the presentation for me: I need to be a bit more lively and more engaging to the audience.

At home I don't really talk to my family members due to ideological differences and brushes. I just mind my own business and I don't particularly care what happens to my mother or brother unless it directly affects me. I just do what is needed of me, go back into my room and just mind my own business. I am relatively uninvolved and cold in social matters UNLESS I deem you worthy of my attention.

When I am with my friends it depends on the mood I am in. I'm usually the most obnoxious and most dirtiest (I sometimes tell myself I need to bleach my head). I can be so open about sexual matters that it challenges the status quo (well, from where I am). If there's a camera involved I make sure I'm the biggest or at the very least, noticeable. My role among friends is established -- while I may not be the loudest or can be when I choose to be, I am the solid base, the rock people can hold onto. I am my kindest and warmest to my friends. I don't use the term "friend" lightly, I only consider people friends to people I accept in my inner circle. Other people such as acquaintances I just maintain a superficial relationship with them or even resort to conflict if the situation arises.

I have this need for success and that would display a 3-ish trait. I have this need to be better than the 2 failures I have with my parents. It's not really a fear of failure, oh I don't know. I don't want to live like them. I don't want to have to put myself in that situation they put me to grow up in. I have this real narcissism complex but that's 3 anyway. Whatever.

As a kid (I doubt it would be relevant) I was rather shy and subdued. I was sensitive too. Years of physical and psychological abuse have turned me into this cold monster that I am now and really couldn't care less about people's opinion of me personally speaking. If it's related to work matters then of course, I would be interested. Hmm.... as a kid. I was the smart kid "everyone loved" or rather favored who sat by the side like a good kid should and read a book. I have my violent streaks too and this is because when I was 7 I told myself I am not going to let myself be pushed around BY ANYONE. This is, I think, why the abuse continued. I was essentially unwilling to let ANYONE control me and my parents tried to assert control over me and that's why I think the conflict happens. When I was 11-ish I was the kid who had problems with EVERYONE. I was the one pissing and stepping people off. I think it applies for now, I am the one usually pissing people off. And I have to end up asking for apologies (that feeling really does suck, can't just people yield to me?!) . Suckers.

I would say I am very goal-oriented because as much as I would like a relationship right now, it is just impossible because of the social stigma and what not. Goals give me a direction to work to and I have this need to be characteristically busy -- always doing something *productive* so that I feel able and not rotting.

I also have never been in a real relationship and I heard that it could jeopardize my work quality. Maybe later, when I've established my independence and make sure I can absolutely give my all, provide for and care for my significant other. This is not helped by my apathy towards people -- I would really appreciate it if someone else (MEN ONLY, OK.) made the move. That being said I have my romantic fantasies I cling onto because I strive to make that fantasy into a reality. I am ready to get all touchy-feely and physically available (hurhurhur cuddling etc, NOT THE OTHER STUFF OK.) and emotionally available as well. I am ready to pour out all my affection to my significant other if I can be sure I can trust the person fully.

Hmm, what else. Shoot me questions.

As for gamma vs beta -- I'm rather so-so on the both of them.

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Gamma types take a longer-term view regarding efficiency and profitability, giving lower priority to the short term. Likewise, they tend to aim at the broader benefits of decisions, rather than only at those affecting themselves, giving them an inclination for self-sacrifice.

Gamma types like to talk about where present trends are leading in terms of potentially profitable events and undertakings.

Gamma types tend to give more value to ideas and concepts that are firmly connected to factual information.

Factual information. Hmm. Never see a need to accumulate it as what they make out LIEs to be but I prefer something that is factually backed up -- because you can't argue with facts.

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Gamma types don't tend to form or maintain groups based on fun, emotional interaction, but only take groups seriously that perform some common productive activity or discuss serious topics.

YES! OH MY GOD!

Gamma types reject the idea that it's best to avoid confrontations so as not to spoil the mood of those present, they prefer directness in settling or at least discussing disagreements.
Gamma types have difficulty relating to emotional atmospheres connected to "special dates" such as public holidays.

OH MY GOD! YES! OH GOD! YES!

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Beta quadra types prefer situations where the power structure and hierarchy is clearly defined according to consistent rules where ambiguities are minimized.

Beta quadra types are more confident analysing realistic characteristics of situations, people, and objects, rather than alternative and could-it-be scenarios.

Beta quadra types are inclined to attribute to a new acquaintance traits that they have previously observed in other individuals belonging to the same group as they see the new acquaintance as belonging to (Aristocracy).

Beta quadra types are inclined to look for general rules explaining people, politics, mechanisms and trends, rules that once defined can be applied generally, rather than go about things in a case-by-case way.

Beta quadra types are energized by competitive situations where analytical tactics are emphasized.

Perhaps what the others have outlined in how I describe other people is true. But generally I am indifferent to people IRL.

I am very capable of organizing people and things in a systematic manner or whatever suits the tasks at hand. I have not thought about how I feel about it, but I would generally prefer to do so if I'm in a group of noobs. If everyone knows their stuff I go laissez-faire.

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Beta types are not inclined to enjoy discussions of personal experiences when the focus is on a person's own inner feelings, especially when described in a subdued way.
Beta types tend to be skeptical of another individual's potential for personal growth in terms of abilities and character, and dislike being the subject of such a discussion by others about themselves.

I agree with this. I never do this IRL because I feel that the people I know have rudimentary knowledge about psychology (I almost always relate myself to some typology system -- usually enneagram because I love it so much) and as such they won't have any form of solid basis to support their claim. That, or the person I'm talking to is someone I don't like (which is usually the case).

[Beautiful sky]

Factual information. Hmm. Never see a need to accumulate it as what they make out LIEs to be but I prefer something that is factually backed up -- because you can't argue with facts.

Many IEI would disagree with you on this point. They are Te PoLR and they don't always believe that facts speak for themselves. I believe that this makes it official that you tend to value facts hence a Te type/valuer.

[Kierva]

Many IEI would disagree with you on this point. They are Te PoLR and they don't always believe that facts speak for themselves. I believe that this makes it official that you tend to value facts hence a Te type/valuer.

No. Facts =/= Te. You really need to stop with your one-word definitions of functions. I agree that you can't argue with facts (I mean, by definition fact = true), but you often need to look at the context to see what the fact actually means. Facts often conflict with each other, and then you're going nowhere until you can reconcile them. And the best way of reconciling conflicting facts is to look at the underlying mechanisms of how the relevant things work. <- Now THAT is Te-PoLR/Ti-HA.




From your self-description I'm tempted to say IEI, but the things you highlighted about quadras are largely Se/Ni-valuing except for the "serious business" stuff. What sorts of "serious topics" do you like talking about?

Also, what is it about your family that gets you so irritated? Can you describe those ideological differences?

And out of interest, if you're willing to share - how old are you?

What sorts of "serious topics" do you like talking about?

Typology in general, politics, capitalism and how it locks us into this stupid system. Basically the state of the world that it is now in. I also criticize the current mindset of citizens here in my country because they are so close-minded. Everything to them is black and white. They let the government think for them. Democracy is plastic. The government calling all the shots, and they're the ones legalizing lesbian sex but not ghey sex. HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THAT? Bunch of str8 males, that's what you get.

Also, what is it about your family that gets you so irritated? Can you describe those ideological differences?

It's mostly my mother. She and her "right" and "wrong". There's no "right" or "wrong" in ANYTHING. What makes it right or wrong depends on the context and the factors that lead to the situation, in which case, I like to go with the wrong.

OH MY GOD! Don't get me started on religion. She's a misguided idiot who can't think for herself and EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING goes through her religious filter. It's sooo effing annoying and she ABSOLUTELY NEVER FAILS to impose it on me. I absolutely HATE being told what to do and I resist being controlled by her or that big book of bad ideas.

And then there's my womanizer of a father who goes around fucking other women and insists that he is a "good Muslim". PUH-LEAZE. Which good Muslim goes around drinking and cheating with other women? I was left for dead in a foreign country because of that bastard. He even left me dead with that bitch in the house. I laughed when he told me to be a good citizen. So dumb.

I guess most of my frustration is coming from people or systems that try to assert control over me and I absolutely resist being controlled.

It's not solely out of mistrust, it's just that I want to control what I do and not having other people do it for me.

I'm 16 going on 17.

[Marie84]

It's mostly my mother. She and her "right" and "wrong". There's no "right" or "wrong" in ANYTHING. What makes it right or wrong depends on the context and the factors that lead to the situation, in which case, I like to go with the wrong.

To me this sounds Fi-devaluing. Do you get irritated by people who are easily offended, or do you respect them?

Why? "Right vs wrong" sounds more Ti or Te, depending on the context, even than that's a bit vague

Maybe Uwace could expand on this by explaining a situation where he disagreed with his mom in this sense...?

[Kierva]

To me this sounds Fi-devaluing. Do you get irritated by people who are easily offended, or do you respect them?

Why? "Right vs wrong" sounds more Ti or Te, depending on the context, even than that's a bit vague

Maybe Uwace could expand on this by explaining a situation where he disagreed with his mom in this sense...?

There's no such thing as being appropriately different.

So what if I have purple nails? So what if it's not right to her? There's nothing wrong with painting nails. I don't agree with society's norms, to which she bases her rights and wrong. I resist being imposed on or being controlled by stupid systems.

[Kierva]

Typology in general, politics, capitalism and how it locks us into this stupid system. Basically the state of the world that it is now in. I also criticize the current mindset of citizens here in my country because they are so close-minded. Everything to them is black and white. They let the government think for them. Democracy is plastic. The government calling all the shots, and they're the ones legalizing lesbian sex but not ghey sex. HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THAT? Bunch of str8 males, that's what you get.

OK, back to thinking beta And previously I thought you were American, but now that I realise you're Australian, I can see where you're coming from. I'm also Australian (but on the side with less inbreeding ) and this stupid delta backwater country also pisses me the hell off. Definitely agree with you on getting the hell out of here ASAP, the only ones who like it here haven't been overseas. The weather's good though, I guess.

I don't think your "serious topics" are particularly gamma, they're pretty beta actually. In terms of gamma vs. beta conversation topics, I guess in terms of politics gammas tend to talk more about investments and economic policies than betas, whereas betas will care more about social issues. Betas will tend to make fun of people they don't like more, doing impressions of people and general loudness/fun/showboating, gammas like quieter, more 'technical' discussions than theatrics.

More beta vs. gamma - I've pasted stuff from wikisocion which I think highlight the differences:

It's mostly my mother. She and her "right" and "wrong". There's no "right" or "wrong" in ANYTHING. What makes it right or wrong depends on the context and the factors that lead to the situation, in which case, I like to go with the wrong.

To me this sounds Fi-devaluing. Do you get irritated by people who are easily offended, or do you respect them?

I hate big groups. in terms of group behavior I'm more towards the gamma side of things.

[Marie84]

just read through your replies to the questionnaire and I get the impression of possible Se dominance, weak but valued Ni.
I'll probably explain this later but I'm not in the mood to do it properly atm

[FDG]

just read through your replies to the questionnaire and I get the impression of possible Se dominance, weak but valued Ni.
I'll probably explain this later but I'm not in the mood to do it properly atm

You're often not in the mood to explain things properly.

[Kierva]

And then there's my womanizer of a father who goes around fucking other women and insists that he is a "good Muslim". PUH-LEAZE. Which good Muslim goes around drinking and cheating with other women? I was left for dead in a foreign country because of that bastard. He even left me dead with that bitch in the house. I laughed when he told me to be a good citizen. So dumb.

Lol, are you a gay Muslim?

I am an apatheist.

[woofwoofl]

OH MY GOD! YES! OH GOD! YES!

So what's my type.

Fe-EIE

Aside from all of the other things you mentioned, posting your Disintegration stuff for your Enneagram while completely omitting your Integration is another thing I'll toss onto the heap for Negativist

The massive amounts of "OH MY GOD! YES!" and other emotional things you send out all point me blatantly to , and almost certainly Beta , to be precise...

I can divide things down to the core essentials and miss the forest for the trees, or I could look at you holistically, know damn sure you're Beta NF, get EIE from you being Negativist as all hell and likely an Extratim, and cap it off with a Fe subtype due to the Fe, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do

[Kierva]

OH MY GOD! YES! OH GOD! YES!

So what's my type.

Fe-EIE

Aside from all of the other things you mentioned, posting your Disintegration stuff for your Enneagram while completely omitting your Integration is another thing I'll toss onto the heap for Negativist

The massive amounts of "OH MY GOD! YES!" and other emotional things you send out all point me blatantly to , and almost certainly Beta , to be precise...

I can divide things down to the core essentials and miss the forest for the trees, or I could look at you holistically, know damn sure you're Beta NF, get EIE from you being Negativist as all hell and likely an Extratim, and cap it off with a Fe subtype due to the Fe, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do

"YES! OH MY GOD!" is something that I find really funny because of the blasphemous tone to which I use.

If I'm in charge of the powerpoint presentation in class I will always put in "YES! OH MY GOD!" on the title slide. It's like I'm known for that xDDD

I use it to create irony and nothing amuses me more than irony.

[Kierva]

OH MY GOD! YES! OH GOD! YES!

So what's my type.

Fe-EIE

Aside from all of the other things you mentioned, posting your Disintegration stuff for your Enneagram while completely omitting your Integration is another thing I'll toss onto the heap for Negativist

The massive amounts of "OH MY GOD! YES!" and other emotional things you send out all point me blatantly to , and almost certainly Beta , to be precise...

I can divide things down to the core essentials and miss the forest for the trees, or I could look at you holistically, know damn sure you're Beta NF, get EIE from you being Negativist as all hell and likely an Extratim, and cap it off with a Fe subtype due to the Fe, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do

That is interesting, care to elaborate?

I just never fail to bleed Fe, don't I? x.x Even when Aleksei typed my stories it bled EIE ._.

I really thought I was SLE.

[Kierva]

This reminds me of myself when I'm in my dramatic mood xDDDDDDD

[Kierva]

perfect match with this guy