He needs attention...he's a delta; that's insecurity that is related with needing Fi, relations.Originally Posted by Hemoglobin
He loves talking about himself
He needs attention...he's a delta; that's insecurity that is related with needing Fi, relations.He loves talking about himself
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You're gay, so your perception of being socially dominant is likely skewed, especially since you're in high school. Or maybe you're doing some internet-posturing.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Your relations with Hemoglobin is very confusing to me. Would you please explain what interactions you have with one another in real life?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Has nobody yet noticed that EIEs just love talking about themselves
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
LSE type.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Hemoglobin is my aunt on facebook and I'm her makeup doll.
언제나.
What relation do you have with moredhel?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I do theatrical makeup as a lifestyle/fashion and Uwace happens to be my model.
A more in depth description of our in person relationship is more along the lines of parental figure with a bit of silliness. A lot of emotional support is given when needed.
In terms of his relationship with Moredhel; Moredhel is my business partner and confidant (absolutely nothing is sacred between us... if you're telling me something you're essentially telling him). He's my sanity check on my ideas and we bounce everything around with each other. Anybody that interacts with me will at one point or another interact with Moredhel so this is how Uwace knows him.
Thanks.I do theatrical makeup as a lifestyle/fashion and Uwace happens to be my model.
A more in depth description of our in person relationship is more along the lines of parental figure with a bit of silliness. A lot of emotional support is given when needed.
In terms of his relationship with Moredhel; Moredhel is my business partner and confidant (absolutely nothing is sacred between us... if you're telling me something you're essentially telling him). He's my sanity check on my ideas and we bounce everything around with each other. Anybody that interacts with me will at one point or another interact with Moredhel so this is how Uwace knows him.
No, you're randomly posting the functions without any sort of basis from my post . I was asking for which position which you put it at.
I may not be well informed in these matters and may not know what the standards or customs in posting such things. Perhaps you could clarify your point.
Jeez someone's getting uptight.
stands for ethics of relationships; I observed that all three have a relations and I wanted to know what your position was in this mix.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Liking attention is not Delta-related. I know some pretty egotistical betas.He needs attention...he's a delta; that's insecurity that is related with needing Fi, relations.
He loves talking about himself
You're basing my type off someone else's answers. If I did not answer that then it's probably not true.He needs attention...he's a delta; that's insecurity that is related with needing Fi, relations.
He loves talking about himself
The reason why I answer questionnaires is because I want to generate discussions about typology and how it relates to me. I also compulsively seek external sources to confirm my thought processes.
If you could elaborate about my "insecurity" that you seem to have inferred without even being me then please do so.
언제나.
You still haven't answered my question. Why are you asking questions about my relations? I don't like random strangers online poking into my life.
Self =/= life.
NOBODY talks about my life unless I do.
언제나.
You're a Negativist type - Socially and intellectually more mistrusting.
I asked because I wanted to determine where in the equation you feel as far as what level of relations you had with whom. I am an Fi type...which means ethics of relationships; I observe who is in relation to who and how these relations grow/evolve/emotionally interact with one another. You need to learn socionics.
AND, DON'T GET AGGRESSIVE WITH ME.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
hahahahahaha
This is the internet, really now.... calm the fuck down.
I am calm. That is my inner voice. I'm an introvert.hahahahahaha
This is the internet, really now.... calm the fuck down.
An introvert can scream quietly in their mind without a whisper coming out.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Eh, you're the one who's unnecessarily getting passive aggressive by asking me to be more "serious" when I asked you why the Fi. You could have replied in a less "serious" tone (for lack of a better word) and keep the tone as it is. OH MY GOD! LOOK WHO'S RAGING IN CAPS TELLING ME NOT TO BE AGGRESSIVE? >.>"You're a Negativist type - Socially and intellectually more mistrusting.
I asked because I wanted to determine where in the equation you feel as far as what level of relations you had with whom. I am an Fi type...which means ethics of relationships; I observe who is in relation to who and how these relations grow/evolve/emotionally interact with one another. You need to learn socionics.
AND, DON'T GET AGGRESSIVE WITH ME.
And you're telling me to learn socionics? After all the replies below about you and people correcting you? Sweetie, get a grip.
언제나.
Haha, I'm going to enjoy reading this thread.
I typed someone else? Who? Anyone on the forum?You're basing my type off someone else's answers. If I did not answer that then it's probably not true.
The reason why I answer questionnaires is because I want to generate discussions about typology and how it relates to me. I also compulsively seek external sources to confirm my thought processes.
If you could elaborate about my "insecurity" that you seem to have inferred without even being me then please do so.
Anyway. What do you mean by "confirm" your thought process. Would you please give an example of a situation?
I was basing that typing of "insecure type" on Hemoglobin's post, where she said you like talking about yourself. I presume you like attention and need affirmation, like you said, from external surroundings. Bragging, boasting, and showing off is a lessor note of this type of behavior. Loving attention is related to loving oneself and thinking highly of ones qualities, usually over generalizing. It draws attention to the self, an introverted propensity, however, if you're only doing it to joke around than you can very well be an Extravert and do this too. The insecurity stems from relations, in need of relations; one can't get attention from inanimate objects like a wall because it doesn't speak back and give you affirmation, encouragement. Delta men, both being negativist types (I have mentioned that you are a negativist type) thrive on positive affirmation from their significant other; this helps them to not get worried and down on themselves; being a negativist, worrying is very easy to do, naturally.
I'm sorry I could go on endlessly about this topic as you may see and draw all kinds of stories and a web of interaction between these ideas (I am after-all an Fi "deep" type). Minde doesn't like me using words of self affirmation, she finds them rather disgusting. Oh well. I just wanted to explain the methodology or the mental workings of my type, being on a Socionics forum.
I would like to end this here because I have to go eat.But, I might return, I'm planning (if not today than later in the future) to complete my thoughts on this subject. In the mean while, you may ask questions on this topic, if you'd like, for me to return to and further add material and elaborate.
Such questions may include:
Does insecurity involve only men or can women fall pray to it?
Any way to know externally who is insecure or not?
Are insecurities, that I associate with delta men, exclusive to that quadra?
etc.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
The what ?
Oh come on, look at all the bravado and bad-assery he is with his sexual orientation. He has a Gay Rant spell that nearly rivals mine.
He is so my dual LOL.
Uwace, your mom is just probably worried about you being beat up or even killed. I was powerfully gay like you when I was your age as well, and my mom said some hurtful things about it, but she was just worried about me. Other people can be such assholes. Ideally, most people shouldn't have a problem with you being gay but they will. And painting your nails purple and being as 'out, and loud and proud' as you are is just advertising it. I love your attitude, but I just don't want you to get hurt. We *shouldn't* have to follow straight society's rules, but most people in the world are straight so we do, and I just don't want to see you hurt.
She might come around to accepting you more completely. You're still young so maybe you should give it time...but when you turn 18 you should move to a very gay-friendly, gay-empowering area. Nobody should ask you to be a martyr for straight people's uncomfortableness.
And did I read correctly or is some people on this forum wanting him to be banned or something? Omg please don't do that. He can be a lil annoying but don't you dare kick this cute little gay kid out omg I love him so much he's like a mini-me.
Gay duality. <3.
omg me him and sean together HOW FUCKING CUTE WOULD THAT BE??
I am so touched <3
언제나.
awwww
And yep, Uwace must stay here!
p . . . a . . . n . . . d . . . o . . . r . . . a
trad metalz | (more coming)
OH MY GOD! YES! OH GOD! YES!
And yep, Uwace must stay here!
So what's my type.
언제나.
OH MY GOD! Give me a break. I have suffered abuse since I was 7 and people here are too much of a wimp to even actually hold a gun. It's not like I'm going to some gangster showing my purple colored nail middle finger.
She needs to get slapped. Bitch motherfuckers deserve a motherfucking slap in the face because they don't know what they talking about! See that being the shit that I don't like.
#endrant >.>" xD
언제나.
I was teasing Uwace when I said that....
Most of the things I post are tongue in cheek.
This question is like a freaking paper. Just posting this to whoever wants to label me <insert sociotype here>.
Any type can be suggested as long as you have basis from my posts and whatever links to back it up.
@woofwoofl: come to chat please?These questions are tough.
1) Describe your outward behavior and internal mindset when around people in different situations (such as with friends, family, in public, workspace, etc.)?
With my family I come off icy and/or aggressive (depending on my mood). But it’s usually icy and I ignore everyone else.
With friends I lighten up considerably; I’m not as loud and boisterous/flamboyant because most of my friend interactions are on a one-on-one basis. I would say I am more of a rock/listener, while occasionally butting in to give my comments about the topic. I don’t usually start the topics.
In public it depends. If I’m doing a semi-formal presentation then I am much more livelier than with my friends. Other than that I don’t know what I’m like in public because I don’t know what is meant by public.
At work I shuffle between focus and cracking jokes. I play the role of critic/brainstormer while coming up with ideas for the problem that is being solved. I think this is when I am my most liveliest and my most happiest.
a. If your outward behavior and internal mindset are different in different settings, do you have any specific reasons as to why you act one way in one setting and another in another setting?
I hate my family, period.
With friends it’s not that I am not that interested, it’s just that in these kind of one-on-one interactions I prefer to take a backseat and just listen. Don’t know why though, I think it has something to do with a bit of apathy.
In public because there is more stimuli I am much livelier because I am constantly thinking of ways to shock the audience or make them laugh. Either with grotesque irony or plain inappropriateness (sex jokes etc etc). It’s all about the reaction that I get, and that is what amuses me.
Because it’s work, I am my most happiest. I feel as though by completing work I am one step closer to reaching my ultimate goal; I think the shuffle between jokes is a distraction that just spills out of my mouth in whatever that I am thinking of.
b. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others?
Uh, as a general rule, no one knows about my family or my childhood when I’m talking to anyone IRL. I don’t talk about it, no one brings it up unless I do.
c. Do you feel like you need to play certain roles when around different groups of people?
Duh! Haven’t I explained it just now?
Family – ice queen
Friends – steady rock
Public – rogue artist
Work – determined comedian (can’t think of a better phrase)
d. What motivates you to withhold or give out qualities of yourself to different groups of people?
I don’t care if people look up to me or not, or if people like me in the first place. I want respect and hence I make sure I dominate a situation if I know I can successfully control it or if I am in the mood.
Otherwise I’ll be icy cold to everyone else. All or nothing.
2) Is there a certain way that you wish others to perceive you as? If so, what do you do in order to allow others to see you in that way?
I don’t wish others to perceive me as anything IRL; I am aware of how people perceive me as. It’s not like I go out of my way to make people like me because I am this and this. I ALREADY am this.
3) When wishing to impress others, what do you usually do in order to allow others to see you in the best possible light?
I suck at selling myself if I’m not interested 100% in the first place. I give a half-assed interview.
Usually what I tell them is that I am a focused person who has a sense of humor (I think if I specified what kind it would lower my selling value, but if they do I just tell them I give playful ones). Able to lead others into a direction and not afraid of failure. Good public speaker and good writing skills etc etc.
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1) How do you generally present yourself to people in different situations (such as with friends, family, in public, workspace, etc)?
From a distance I seem cold and uninterested. People I hold close would find me nice and interesting. That’s a general rule.
I think I have specified how I look like in those situations.
a. What is/are the reason(s) for presenting that image of yourself?
Answered.
b. What are things you keep repressed from being shown to people?
Answered.
c. Why do you repress them?
Nobody needs to know about my childhood. I don’t like being reminded.
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The Ego Complex
2) If you could fully reveal how you want to talk, act, behave, or be, what would that look like? *Note: If your answer is “I act like myself” or “I would act like myself” or “I would just want to be myself” or any variant of the following, please be more specific.
At this point in time I don’t know what “myself” is. I think “myself” is how I’ve always been. I was sensitive, shy and smart when I was a kid. Now I don’t know about shy and sensitive – well, shy only in social situations where there’s no beneficial purpose.
Now I would consider myself a cold ice freak who likes being alone. I can feign warmth if I want to, but ultimately that leads me into an existential depression because that is not me. “Myself” is interested in the grotesque and likes to shock people with freakiness.
I have a thing for gory tumblr blogs.
The Shadow Complex
3) What personality qualities do you generally hate about people?
a. Describe the personality qualities of a person of the same-sex who you heavily dislike.
OH MY GOD! “my penis is bigger than yours. Dude, the gym’s been a blast”
I hate masculinity. I hate it with a burning passion. “Be a man” is one thing that never fails to put me into a seething rage.
b. Describe the personality qualities of a person of the opposite-sex who you heavily dislike.
OH MY GOD! “girl, my nails are sooooooo ruined; UGH! That bitch just did that. Did you see that? Bitchbitchbitch
I hate feminism. I hate it with a burning passion that EQUALS masculinity. It’s so fucking dumb, these gender roles.
4) Are there any qualities that you dislike in other people that you find in yourself? What are they?
Superficiality. I think I’m very ugly and I feel this want to be attractive to others but I end up doing nothing about it because it’s so superficial. Then it starts another cycle. I don’t do anything about it because it’s not a big priority.
The Anima/Animus Complex
5) What personality qualities do you generally like about people?
a. Describe the personality qualities of a person of the same-sex who you really like.
b. Describe the personality qualities of a person of the opposite-sex who you really like.
I don’t pay attention to people so I don’t know. Male or female they’re still humans; to me they are equal in their actions and consequences.
6) How do you normally interact with the opposite-sex upon first meeting or first impression?
a. If the first impression/meeting was positive, why?
b. If the first impression/meeting was negative, why?
This question only works for str8 people. So I’m going to give a general answer.
With both sexes I usually give a negative impression because it’s not like I deem you interesting from my observations. Cold, uninterested.
7) What were your parents like in YOUR perspective when you were a child ages 4-12 and how or in what way do you feel they have affected or influenced you (whether negatively or positively)?
Mother = bad, father = good (until 11) /bad (when I was 12)
As you can see I came from a very happy family.
Abuse from both parents, neglect and physical abuse caused me to be cold and uninvolved generally.
Concreticism vs Abstraction properties
8) *incomplete* Skip to 9)
General Psyche State of Mind
9) Are you currently depressed and if so, how long have you been depressed?
I don’t know. I am in a current state of apathy and vengeance.
a. If you are not depressed, have you ever been depressed before?
I don’t know if I’ve ever experienced a state of depression as how society experiences it or how it is dictated by them. Maybe my depressive stage is apathy and isolation.
b. During the depressive state, if applicable, are you more prone to centering attention to yourself than you would ordinarily do?
I direct my attention to my plans for getting back at the person.
10) Have you ever acted compulsively with no awareness or control? For example, you become overly concerned with people or things around you that you would ordinarily not care about. (This does not have to be in a form of anger. It could be you becoming much more obsessive over someone or developing unusual addictions to drugs and/or alcohols or anything similar to that effect.)
Only whacked my mom with a chair and broke it, bonked her on the head twice and shouted at her millions of times. That screams anger to me.
I don’t know about OCD. Everything I do is under control. I only lose control when I am angry.
11) Whenever you are heavily stressed out and pushed over the edge to extreme points, what is your general response? It could be anger, sadness, isolation, violence, etc
Here’s the stages:
Isolation -> apathy -> vengeance -> apathy -> vengeance -> volcano erupt.
12) (Free Write or Mind Dump question) State what you see as the major key events in your life and your response to each of them at the time.
Skip.
@Aleksei, @calysco, @Comrade DPH, @Yukawa - I answered these questions in my free time. Greatly appreciated if you guys can take a look at these answers and give a reply.
k0rp wanted me to prod you for... you'll find out.
언제나.
Which title are you referring to? xDThe thread title is pretty accurate, hey
언제나.
This thread was missing a homo pic:
What type do you go by these days?
I still think you're a Fe-dominant. If not, quite possibly a Se-dominant.
ILE; INTP
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