Do you have a video of yourself?
Do you have a video of yourself?
I do, actually.Originally Posted by guy123
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
EIE was my initial impression, but after watching your video, EP seems more likely than EJ.
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I do strongly identify with EP temperament, but I'm of the mind that subtype alters temperament -- and I'm an Irrational subtype (H subtype to be exact).
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
I don't disagree that subtype affects the expression of a temperament, but I see it doing so in a much subtler way than you seem to be implying. For example, between an Fe-EIE and Ni-EIE there may be discrepancies in facial movement, thematic emphasis, and other such qualitative measures. But between two temperaments, the differences in interaction are too pronounced to be explained away by subtype. Where a subtype tweaks cognitive filters, a temperament defines an experiential attitude. Throughout the video, your bodily energy (literally, 'vibrations of contours') remained rather languid (obviously you were sitting down, but I didn't pick up on much inner tension and redirection, both very common to Ni-EJs), as were your facial muscles 'at rest' unless you were smiling in response to one of your own remarks, or allaying some discomfort felt in discussing a topic. Further, your inflection is blithe, receptive and kind of harmlessly solicitous, which I take to be much more indicative of EP-Fe-seeking than any Fe-dominant; from an IP-Fe perspective, you're basically saying, "ok, you might listen to me, I hope, so I'll just waver in self-entertaining expatiation to keep things cool." Overall you seem pretty laid-back and easy to deal with, but your entire mode of self-presentation (taking the other's unconscious as your discourse) lacks the emotive control and implied command of any 'audience,' more of a jester quality than a bishop, so to say.
I guess this clarifies some of the differences between 3w4s and EIEs. Your self-description in the other thread easily aligned with general EIE behaviors; yet sp-last in a type centered around self-expression/understanding explains such manifestations.
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Too often people think subtype makes this considerable difference in behaviour, when all it does is make minor tweaks, which you so elegantly described.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
fwiw, here's a video I'd made before:
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Based on the first video alone Aleksei, you come across as XNXP. You just come across as very spacey-intuitive and laid back-irrational. Whether you're a logical type or an ethical type, or an intratim or an extratim, I am not confident enough to judge at the moment.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
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