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    Walt: LSI?
    Jesse: SEE?
    Gus: ILI? Only problem I have with this typing is that he and Walt seem to come off as pretty much the same to me. And I don't think he and Jesse would be pals lol
    Hank: ESE?
    Marie: EIE?
    Tucco: SLE
    Clean Up Guy: SLI?
    Saul: ILE?
    Jesse's GF: IEI?

    I haven't really thought these through, just kind of throwing some macaroni at the refrigerator here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Walt: LSI?
    Jesse: SEE?
    Gus: ILI? Only problem I have with this typing is that he and Walt seem to come off as pretty much the same to me. And I don't think he and Jesse would be pals lol
    Hank: ESE?
    Marie: EIE?
    Tucco: SLE
    Clean Up Guy: SLI?
    Saul: ILE?
    Jesse's GF: IEI?

    I haven't really thought these through, just kind of throwing some macaroni at the refrigerator here.
    I've only seen the first season, so eh, maybe they change. I'll have to watch more of it, but my impressions. Walt is some dorky LII or ILI, not LSI. Bizarre and unnatural use of Se. A friend of mine and I came to the conclusion of IEI for Jesse, but it's been awhile and I don't remember why and SEE for Tuco. Agree with EIE for Marie.

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    I love this show, I just finished watching the first season.

    In my opinion:

    Walt - LIE
    Jesse - SEE
    Skyler - ESE
    Tucco - SLE
    Hank - LSE
    Marie - EIE
    Crazy 8 - SLI
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    Walt - Si-ESFJ, pretty much the same as the actor
    Skyler - INFJ, kinda unpleasant though (hard life much )
    Walter Jr. - Ti-ENTP
    Jesse - Si-ESTJ, definitely delta. reminds me of eminem, hugh jackman and a couple LSE friends. my favorite character, but wish sometimes he was a little tougher
    Jesse's GF - INTP. I get strong Fe-PoLR and Ne-ignoring vibes. good Fi/Te bonds with Jesse
    Hank - Ni-ENFJ
    Marie - I could see her as another ENFJ, probably Fe-sub
    Ted - Se-ESFP
    Tucco - ESTP, I agree
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    This show is badass.

    WTF at your typings poli? ...

    I agree with LSI for Walt. Definitely.
    SEE for Jesse, yep... IEI for the gf... pretty much agree with all of OP's typings. Good job mune
    I haven't watched this in a while though, finished all 3 seasons pretty fast. I know the new one's out eh? GOTTA WATCH!


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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Walt - Si-ESFJ, pretty much the same as the actor
    Skyler - INFJ, kinda unpleasant though (hard life much )
    Walter Jr. - Ti-ENTP
    Jesse - Si-ESTJ, definitely delta. reminds me of eminem, hugh jackman and a couple LSE friends. my favorite character, but wish sometimes he was a little tougher
    Jesse's GF - INTP. I get strong Fe-PoLR and Ne-ignoring vibes. good Fi/Te bonds with Jesse
    Hank - Ni-ENFJ
    Marie - I could see her as another ENFJ, probably Fe-sub
    Ted - Se-ESFP
    Tucco - ESTP, I agree
    Agreed with Scarlett, WTF at your typings? The actor may be ESE, but Walt is anything, but an ESE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    He reminds me of an ESFJ though. I don't get the LSI thing when he doesn't come across like one to me at all. He seems a lot more ethically based than LSI, like all his troubles and ethical questions and doubts really show through and reads all over his face, and when he teaches to his students or talks to his wife he's so emotional, and then has this kind of bad-ass alter ego developing. He's also strictly in the same boat as Jesse as I see, concerned for welfare. Jesse is also more , but I see him equally use and and reminds me too much of ESTJs.
    I agree with you on that he's not an LSI as squark noted his use of is not natural. I think him being ethically based is a result of him being human and having a conscience. Who wouldn't fret over killing a human being? I think Walt is LIE as he appears to be consistently using and he seems to devalue based on how he handles his cancer and overall health. He also clearly has an hidden agenda and is fulfilling it to the max. Jesse just strikes me as SEE, he's constantly using all the time and you could see that he uses in his decisions. I can't picture an LSE being a meth addict high school dropout, not saying it isn't possible, it's just not likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Well it's not that, I just don't expect an valuer to show emotions that stiffly and controlled, like he's trying to sum up every emotional experience and objectify his motives. You can totally tell he values strong as far as I'm concerned. or any ego logic I don't see. I don't know why he'd be fulfilling hidden agenda though, but I'll think about it. It's just more how he comes across, he seems to meld a lot better with valuing people. There's no special or theoretical "hidden motive" behind it, it's just in the way he talks and behaves. Also, isn't about staying healthy.
    I think an valuer can show emotions in that way especially if it's not one of his dominant functions. The reason why I think he's fulfilling his hidden agenda, because prior to the cancer he hardly used and was a bit of a doormat. Then you see him do a complete 360 as he finally decides to fulfill his hidden agenda fully as his life is running short.

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    I agree with Jesse being strong with , but again > ? Not seeing it. You can't picture a meth addict high school dropout as an LSE? Okay, I guess I can't convince you then.
    Really, you don't see Jesse's ? He's using like almost every other moment. I'm sure an LSE could be a meth addict high school drop out, but doesn't an SEE seem a lot more likely? I guess we can't convince each other then and let's agree to disagree.

    I just think that Walt and Jesse are a great example of LIE and SEE being activity partners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Huh, I think you're approaching the types here sort of like uneven stereotypes, to me. Like Walt and Skyler obviously clash because she is sensitive , so Walt is , and Skyler likes to play it safe and concerned for health so she's and Walt gets in to trouble so he's . I can begin to understand why there's confusion between us then.
    Nope, the main reason I see Walt as LIE and Skyler as ESE because they remind me of people who are those types. In fact I don't think Walt and Skyler clash enough because of their super-ego relationship, the show makes it look more positive than it would be in reality.

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    I think an valuer can show emotions in that way especially if it's not one of his dominant functions. The reason why I think he's fulfilling his hidden agenda, because prior to the cancer he hardly used and was a bit of a doormat. Then you see him do a complete 360 as he finally decides to fulfill his hidden agenda fully as his life is running short.
    That sounds great in theory, but I think anyone can be like that.
    Perhaps any type can act that way, but I don't think to the extent that Walt does. Either way Walt comes across as valuing.

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    I just think that Walt and Jesse are a great example of LIE and SEE being activity partners.
    I guess the problem is that I see a bit of a value difference with ethical motives. Walt leans much more to the objective factor, and Jesse to the subjective factor of emotions and these play as blind spots to one another which then lead to every day conflict. This can also be witnessed in the relationship between Walt and Skyler. Walt also has a lot of this kind of static field knowledge from his career, and Jesse has a clashing process that involves everything empirical around his micromanaging. It's like Walt's , just more external, dry cut and about logical process and evolution of trends, and Walt always seems offended by it or not interested, or more in to detached theorizing in a way that is textbook (Jung on F/T orientations), and if he were a logical ego, he could handle it in his own way but doesn't really. Again not seeing logic as essential to his being on this show, maybe the show tries to give more emphasis to it but it doesn't really work, but his logic when he uses it, say more in the beginning season, seems very static compared to Jesse's and unlike . I think the relationship clash is overall / and / differences, but they also have their good moments and think a lot of the reason is because they're comfortable with one anothers (and I don't think their positive relation is always that noticeable). Will have to go further in to that aspect in a bit.
    You aren't really proving that Walt is ESE and Jesse is LSE, all you're doing is proving that Walt is Alpha and Jesse is Delta. Personally, I'm open to Walt and Jesse being other types, but not ESE and LSE, maybe LII for Walt or Jesse as SLI, really anything else would make more sense than the types you propose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
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    Nope, the main reason I see Walt as LIE and Skyler as ESE because they remind me of people who are those types. In fact I don't think Walt and Skyler clash enough because of their super-ego relationship, the show makes it look more positive than it would be in reality.
    That's fine. Walt reminds me especially of Partick Stewart who is Si-ESFJ, and Skyler reminds me of a number of INFJs.
    Well, I guess to each their own I guess.

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    really anything else would make more sense than the types you propose.
    That's ridiculous. Why do people treat him like a logical type when he's clearly , because he's a male scientist and wears glasses? Oh well. Not seeing how he's valuing or a logical type.

    I think he dislikes a whole lot and avoids it, for example with the conduct of Tucco, which is kind of a bold example, but provides me and the viewers with a reasonable comparison estimating Walt's personality throughout the course of the show, and what you refer to as Walt's hidden agenda I don't think has anything to do with . He and the show is obviously a lot more extreme than real life, for instance blowing up the windows of Tucco's HQ in an effort to show him he means business, I think any type on a TV show can do it. Just how he goes about it all, is very . Don't look at the actions themselves which on this show blow reality out of proporion, but Walt's personality and psychological response to his own and others actions. What I see, that's not hidden agenda. I sense their every time they deal with dirty business.

    Jesse on the other hand, I can see why there's confusion. Let's leave it at that then. I'll provide an informative post about in this light sooner or later.
    I personally see like no or from Walt, but if you see it I'm not here to judge you. We can spend pages discussing this and both of us will just try to prove our own beliefs and go nowhere, so let's just let agree to disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    I added in more stuff, not sure if you read it or just didn't quote in time. I'm hoping some people can get the difference between and . But ok, thanks for the discussion.
    No problem, I see your points, when I just type someone I usually get an overall gut feeling about their type and then run with it. I don't pay that much attention to the details.
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    I've watched more episodes and it has only cemented my belief that Walt is LIE. It's just very clear to me that one of his dominant functions is and that he values enough through his actions to be his HA. Everything he does is planned out and methodical. He's constantly using to explain chemistry or to solve problems. The way he seems to be somewhat passive on his cancer and letting his family know about it indicates devalued and PoLR.

    Jesse I still have him pegged as an SEE. He just strikes me as a guy that goes by how he feels at the moment and thus can make him look very impulsive. He's very aware of what is going on around him constantly indicating strong . He also knows when to be dominant and when not to be. He can be very persuasive in arguments or when it comes to salesmanship, which points to SEE as well.

    I see the two as activity partners who value each other's views and talents and help each other survive in the process through their team work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traveler View Post
    I love this show, I just finished watching the first season.

    In my opinion:

    Walt - LIE
    Jesse - SEE
    Skyler - ESE
    Tucco - SLE
    Hank - LSE
    Marie - EIE
    Crazy 8 - SLI
    hey, i just noticed the new season was out a little while ago and we seem to have very similar typings.

    what do you think about these as well? i can make an argument for saul and gus if you want, if you feel it's jumping to conclusions too much.
    gus LII
    saul EIE
    mike (retired cop dude) LSI

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    I've only seen the pilot, but I really have to see more of the show. Until then my impression of the characters is limited. Some of the actors though:

    Bryan Cranston: Te-ISTp 9w8 sx/so <3
    Anna Gunn: Ne-INTj
    Aaron Paul: ?Se?-ESTp

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    This is my SLE-Se friend's favorite show. This and Justified. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by givemeaname View Post
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    I love this show, I just finished watching the first season.

    In my opinion:

    Walt - LIE
    Jesse - SEE
    Skyler - ESE
    Tucco - SLE
    Hank - LSE
    Marie - EIE
    Crazy 8 - SLI
    hey, i just noticed the new season was out a little while ago and we seem to have very similar typings.

    what do you think about these as well? i can make an argument for saul and gus if you want, if you feel it's jumping to conclusions too much.
    gus LII
    saul EIE
    mike (retired cop dude) LSI
    Yeah those types could work, I was honestly unsure about those two, which is why I didn't type. Walt, Jesse, Skyler and Tucco are the four that I'm really certain about because I compare them to people I know IRL who are those types and the similarities are very strong. However, with the other characters I don't have that luxury of people I can compare them to so I remain undecided about their types.
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    I'm definitely on board with Walt as LSI now. He fits the LSI descriptions rather well, and even shows a bit in LII ones.

    My earlier claim of ESE was obviously misguided, as he was being emotional about his bad luck and major health problems, and pretty much uses very little common sense during most of the show, however this isn't exactly archetype related. I don't know why I kept trying to defend him as ESE when he would be an atypical one, especially in his introversion--I was probably just trying to argue that there's more variety to a type. Also, when I thought of him as Si I think part of this was me overestimating his calmness and sensory perfectionism, and him getting really defensive in situations that went against his self-controlled expectations or that were too extreme, thinking that Si is picky and defensive about this where as Se would want to find a quick solution and act. That obviously isn't the case.

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    Anyone watched this series? What did you type its characters?
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    Walt is SLI imo. Don't have a significant opinion on the others, but agree with Galen's actor typings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    Walt is SLI imo. Don't have a significant opinion on the others, but agree with Galen's actor typings
    I agree.

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    yes I think Walt is SLI.

    How about Jesse?

    Skylar (who is so annoying) ESE?

    Walt Jr.IEI

    Hank: Easy, SLE

    Hank's wife (can't remember her name. I'm only in season two): ESI?

    And, I LOVE THIS SHOW.
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    This is mostly going off of the actors' types

    Walt: Te-ISTp sp/sx although Cranston is likely sx/so
    Jesse: Ne-ENTp 6w7 sx
    Skyler: Ne-INTj 6w5 so?
    Hank: Si-ESFj 7w8
    Gus: Ne-INFj, an evil one (hi @Radio)
    Mike: Si-ESTj 8w9
    Saul: Fe-ENFj 3w4 so/sp
    Marie: Ne-ENTp 6w7?
    Walter Jr/Flynn: ??-???? ?w? S?/S?

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    Here are my typings based solely on the characters imo:

    Walt: Te-LIE sp/sx
    Jesse: Se-SEE sx/sp
    Skyler: Fe-ESE so/sp
    Hank: Si-LSE sx/so
    Gus: Te-ILI sp/so
    Mike: Si-SLI sp/so
    Saul: Ne-ILE sx/so
    Marie: Ne-EII so/sp
    Walter Jr/Flynn: Fe-IEI so/sx
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    Walt: ILI-Te
    Jesse: SEE-Se
    Hank: SLE-Ti
    Walt's wife: EII- Ne
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    edited for gayness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    This is mostly going off of the actors' types

    Walt: Te-ISTp sp/sx although Cranston is likely sx/so
    Jesse: Ne-ENTp 6w7 sx
    Skyler: Ne-INTj 6w5 so?
    Hank: Si-ESFj 7w8
    Gus: Ne-INFj, an evil one (hi @Radio)
    Mike: Si-ESTj 8w9
    Saul: Fe-ENFj 3w4 so/sp
    Marie: Ne-ENTp 6w7?
    Walter Jr/Flynn: ??-???? ?w? S?/S?
    I feel like these fit well..the only two I'm unsure about are Skyler and Jesse.

    I'm so excited to get some popcorn and watch the whole last season tonight.

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    IMO

    Walt: SLI
    Skylar: LSE
    Walt Jr: EII
    Jesse: SEE
    Hank: SLE
    Marie: EII
    Saul: EIE
    Gus: ILI

    Eta: The character who really stood out as IEI to me was that female principal at the high school where Walt worked in the beginning. Forgot her name though. :/
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    No, but let me see if I can try...

    Aaron Paul seems LSE in real life to me.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    There is no way that Hank is anything other than SLE. lol omg so obvious.

    although okay, I'm only through season one. so I'll keep watching. I have limited streaming through Netflix so I can't watch Season two until August and the library's copy is checked out with two holds! geesh.
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    Walt: SLI
    Skylar: ESI
    Walt Jr: some introverted and ethical type, but not ESI
    Jesse: SEE (Ti PoLR, weak intuition, strong Fi, EP temperament)
    Hank: stereotypical SLE
    Marie: ESI
    Mike: LSI
    Saul: EIE
    Gus: I'm kinda at a loss on this one. some IJ.
    Hector: ??? some kind of pure evil, more evil than Gus
    Ted: LSE
    Gale: IEE?
    Badger: IEI?
    Skinny Pete: ???

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    Almost done with season two now and I have to say, Walt is def. SLI and Jesse IEE.

    Skylar (can't stand her) probably ESI.

    Hank, I still think is SLE
    Marie, dunno yet
    Walt Jr. EII

    Also, he totally reminds me of my grandpa, who was also SLI (passed away last year). It makes me chuckle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    This is mostly going off of the actors' types

    Walt: Te-ISTp sp/sx although Cranston is likely sx/so
    Jesse: Ne-ENTp 6w7 sx
    Skyler: Ne-INTj 6w5 so?
    Hank: Si-ESFj 7w8
    Gus: Ne-INFj, an evil one (hi @Radio)
    Mike: Si-ESTj 8w9
    Saul: Fe-ENFj 3w4 so/sp
    Marie: Ne-ENTp 6w7?
    Walter Jr/Flynn: ??-???? ?w? S?/S?
    I agree, though Mike seems ENTj.

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    Walter White is a scumbag. I hope he gets a horrible death at the end of the season.
    good bye

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    nah but I bet u he'll get cancer again. that would be the most boring ending ever, it would make me happy

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    Lydia: Fi-ENFp 6w5 sp/sx

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    Walter: SLI-Te - probably attachment triad, his character isn't enough of a 'hardass' to be a 5.

    Jesse: ESI - his relationship with Walk is almost classic benefit with Walter often pin-pointing that Jesse is somehow inept, criticizing him for not "thinking outside the box" and not thinking ahead, yet Walt still tries to guide and watch over him. Jesse's character is more engrossed into resolving ethical issues in this series, which he often tries solve by a very direct 'head-on' methods without considering the consequences on his actions.

    Skyler: mixed character, felt more like SEE at the beginning but later, when she and Walt were thinking of ways of investing the money, her approach was more like that of an NT; it's one of those instances when the type of the actress deviates too much form the type of the character she plays to produce an untypable amalgamate.

    Hank and Marie: LSE-Te and IEE-Fi - no idea why there are so many SLE typings for Hank in this thread, he's very thorough, self-controlled, sort of straight-shooting man's man i.e. EJ temperament Te-dom.

    Gus: EII - obvious strategic type is too obvious, he sets a script for himself and orchestrates the lives of others to coincide with that script, he's inventive, polite, circuitous & manipulative.

    Mike: SLI-Te 5w6 - the 'hardass' subtype of SLI, him and Walter end up stepping on each other's toes quite a bit.

    Saul Goodman, the lawyer: alpha extrovert, ILE-Ti

    Jane, Jesse's first gf who dies from an overdose: EII-Ne
    Skinny Pete (Jesse's friend): IEI-Fe
    Brandon (Jesse's friend): SEI?

    Eladio, the head of the drug cartel: LIE 8w9

    Lydia: ESI/IEE e6
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    started watching this. on Season 4!

    Walt - ISTp E5?
    No other type. He's like a ISTp caricature (see: the episode where a fly gets into the lab).

    Jesse - ESFp? E6
    He VIs as EXTp, but his character is more emo Fi.

    Skyler - OH GOD SO IXXJ
    She's all the unpleasant things about IJ temperament condensed into one person.

    Hank - ESFj
    For a while I wondered if he was LSE, but he has too much cheesy high-five/slap-on-the-back kind of shit going on. ESFj.

    Saul - ENFj E3
    Fe overload. He's one of my favourite characters, tho.

    Gus - INFj E1
    This this this.

    Mike - ESTj
    No comments, except yeah.


    Other characters:

    Marie - no idea, some easily-hurt F
    Walter Jr. - some IXFp but who cares about him
    Jessie's gf - ISFp E4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio View Post
    Walt - ISTp E5?
    No other type. He's like a ISTp caricature (see: the episode where a fly gets into the lab).
    I don't think the fly was that literal. The series is littered with little manifestations of Walter's declining moral and emotional state. The fly was a little echo of the staring eyeball, and his conscience nagging at his activities.

    That said, I think Skylar could be a representative of the bad side of . She's clearly willing to impress her will upon Walter and use their son to abuse him.


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    Literal fly. Literal fly with deep Jungian significance.
    Moonlight will fall
    Winter will end
    Harvest will come
    Your heart will mend

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