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    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Idk. People are cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Idk. People are cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.
    Conflictors are people, they are not enemies.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.
    Conflictors are people, they are not enemies.
    But they're not good for spending the rest of your life with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post

    Conflictors are people, they are not enemies.
    But they're not good for spending the rest of your life with either.
    No, but Illusionary relations are far worse than Conflictory relations by the way that conflicts arise and by how superficial Illusionary relations are. Imagine, with conflict relations there is always a topic that can never be resolved but in Illusionary relations you don't want to and almost can't stand to hear what the other person wants to say because their IM is your ignoring function; you, in essence, ignore them. Cold distance develops between Illusionary relations and eventually you find it very very hard to exchange any meaningful conversations with them. With conflict relations, you have a lot in common, a lot of activities and interests, just that you can't get the other person to do more of their demonstrative function, which comes out in spurs. True that conflicts don't get resolved in conflicting relations, but at least you do things together; an introvert needs to do things. Illusionary relations are so far deactivating that you just waste time doing nothing.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    No, but Illusionary relations are far worse than Conflictory relations by the way that conflicts arise and by how superficial Illusionary relations are. Imagine, with conflict relations there is always a topic that can never be resolved but in Illusionary relations you don't want to and almost can't stand to hear what the other person wants to say because their IM is your ignoring function; you, in essence, ignore them. Cold distance develops between Illusionary relations and eventually you find it very very hard to exchange any meaningful conversations with them. With conflict relations, you have a lot in common, a lot of activities and interests, just that you can't get the other person to do more of their demonstrative function, which comes out in spurs. True that conflicts don't get resolved in conflicting relations, but at least you do things together; an introvert needs to do things. Illusionary relations are so far deactivating that you just waste time doing nothing.
    The bold are lies. Don't type second person to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    No, but Illusionary relations are far worse than Conflictory relations by the way that conflicts arise and by how superficial Illusionary relations are. Imagine, with conflict relations there is always a topic that can never be resolved but in Illusionary relations you don't want to and almost can't stand to hear what the other person wants to say because their IM is your ignoring function; you, in essence, ignore them. Cold distance develops between Illusionary relations and eventually you find it very very hard to exchange any meaningful conversations with them. With conflict relations, you have a lot in common, a lot of activities and interests, just that you can't get the other person to do more of their demonstrative function, which comes out in spurs. True that conflicts don't get resolved in conflicting relations, but at least you do things together; an introvert needs to do things. Illusionary relations are so far deactivating that you just waste time doing nothing.
    The bold are lies. Don't type second person to me.
    Huh?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
    This has to be a joke. You realize that you're just throwing inter-type relations out the window?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
    I could potentially see this order happening but only on a very superficial basis. The minute you start trying to get closer to conflict or superego, things start going MAJORLY downhill.

    In fact, when talking very superficial relationships, I would actually put Duality lower, and Activity & Identity higher, as Activity is more obvious of an attraction initially and is less awkward to start than duality, and Identity just bonds very easily over things they have in common.

    Obviously when talking about close interpersonal relationships, of course you probably realize your list goes completely out the window. My list for closer relationships would look like this:

    1. Duality
    2. Activity
    3. Identity
    4. +/- Mirror (not sure, but i think intraquadra relationships tend to have more mutual understanding than interquadra)
    5. Illusionary or semiduality (depending on subtype)
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    Probably Benefit>Semi>Illusionary
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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