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    Kindred, not that I agree with the way you arranged the same-quadra relationships.

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    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
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    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Contrary.
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    1. Duality - Truly completes you. And INTjs are cute when you make them smile.
    2. Activity - Closest to duality. And very fun! And ENTps and I can talk forever.
    3. Identity - Very nice having someone just like me, competitive, someone I can understand.
    4. Mirror - Very relaxing. ISFps are so laid-back. So chilled.
    5. Beneficiary (Other person is Benefactor) - Receive the Ti help I need in a duality kind of way. SLEs rock! And humorous/fun Se like an Activity relationship.
    6. Semi-Duality - More helpful than Beneficiary, yes, but more confusion and misunderstanding. But helpful for growth.
    7. Benefactor - Man... ENFps can be all over the place. This can be fun, but it gets frustrating. Tires me out though.
    8. Look-alike - I learn a lot from ESTjs. I like the fellow Ej temperament, we understand just wanting to get things done. No BS.
    9. Quasi-Identical - Similar to Identity, SO MUCH FUN! EXTRAVERTED SFs LIKE OMG!
    10. Supervisee (Other person is Supervisor) - INFps are so sensitive, caring, it can be very sexy.
    11. Illusionary - INFjs are upbeat and nice. Kind of private, shy, but friendly.
    12. Comparitive - Fe LIKE OMG! A;LDSFKJAS;LFJASLKFJAS;LDJFZX;LKVJSALDKJFAW;EFRJASDFLJ
    13. Supervisor - ISTps are cool, I like shocking them with my Fe. Lots of trust/help here, maybe I should rank them higher than #13, but oh well.
    14. Super-Ego - ENTjs are... interesting, informative, but... way too abstract for me. And wayyy overly critical.
    15. Contrary - I always feel uncomfortable around ISFjs... like they're going to cut my throat or something. They don't trust my Fe or friendliness either, it's like they expect I'm plotting something. We don't trust each other.
    16. Conflicting - Nothing to talk about without disagreeing. I think INTps are very cool, how they have great insight into people, and I have a lot of respect for their intelligence. But just interacting with them personally, it's tough, cause they're so cold. Criticizing everything, they can't just be happy.



    Tough to decide in this list. Of course the maturity of the person, and countless other non-socionic factors, are more important. For example, I had a pretty good relationship before with my Supvisor, even though I rank it as #10 on my list. All depends on the person.
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    probably semi-dual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    Kindred, not that I agree with the way you arranged the same-quadra relationships.
    Yeah.

    1. Duality
    2. Activity
    3. Identity
    4. Mirror
    5. Kindred

    Identity is either too boring or too tense to be better than Activity, which is as smooth as butter and just as interesting.
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    I agree that activity beats identity.
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    Mirage. Superid-complementary relations are typically better than ego-complementary relations, and of the two off-quadra relations that are, I've seen enough semi-dual relations fail in more or less the same way to conclude that Creative/HA interaction is more important (though less instantly attractive) than dominant/suggestive interaction; given primarily that the former is necessary to assuage fears related to the PoLR. For example, consistent clear and convincing displays of open affection counter the xLE's innate interpersonal paranoia, and a quick push into action can counter the XIE's innate squeamishness. Further, providing others with role information is obviously easier than providing PoLR information; and in fact people use the role regularly, provided it doesn't conflict with the goals set up by the dominant (LIE's constant upbeat cheerfulness and LSE's occasional surly demeanor are good examples of this).
    What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.

    Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).

    For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    Yeah, ok, I admit I could've been ore stringent but this is pretty accurate and lets me have a 1-2-3-4-3-2-1 diamond pattern.
    that's pretty awesome, actually.
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    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Idk. People are cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poli View Post
    Idk. People are cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.
    Conflictors are people, they are not enemies.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    You prefer your conflictor to your illusionary? That's nuts.
    Conflictors are people, they are not enemies.
    But they're not good for spending the rest of your life with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
    This has to be a joke. You realize that you're just throwing inter-type relations out the window?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    Actually, I think I would go with this order and because they offer the information one needs; I'll use myself as an example.

    1. Duality because it offers both Te and Si in the right dose
    2. Activity because it offers both Te and Si in less than the right dose
    3. Conflict relations because it offers Te demonstrating (is an ST type)
    4. Super-Ego Relations because it offers Si demonstrative (is an ST type to my NF)
    5. Identical relations make for a very good friendship.
    6. Illusionary Relations, though has many conflicts and is a superficial relations, it offers Si and sometimes roles out Te.
    I could potentially see this order happening but only on a very superficial basis. The minute you start trying to get closer to conflict or superego, things start going MAJORLY downhill.

    In fact, when talking very superficial relationships, I would actually put Duality lower, and Activity & Identity higher, as Activity is more obvious of an attraction initially and is less awkward to start than duality, and Identity just bonds very easily over things they have in common.

    Obviously when talking about close interpersonal relationships, of course you probably realize your list goes completely out the window. My list for closer relationships would look like this:

    1. Duality
    2. Activity
    3. Identity
    4. +/- Mirror (not sure, but i think intraquadra relationships tend to have more mutual understanding than interquadra)
    5. Illusionary or semiduality (depending on subtype)
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    Probably Benefit>Semi>Illusionary
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopuslove View Post
    For me individual differences influence relationships a lot. I can have heaps of fun with an IEE and hate being around an EIE. And I can't put a strict order on it, I love my activators and identicals around equally but for radically different reasons. But my preferences are loosely:


    Dual

    Activator = Identical

    Mirror = Semi-dual = Illusionary

    Kindred = Business = Benefactor = Beneficiary

    Contrary = Supervisee = Superego

    Supervisor = Quasidentical

    Conflictor


    Yeah, ok, I admit I could've been ore stringent but this is pretty accurate and lets me have a 1-2-3-4-3-2-1 diamond pattern.
    this works for me as well. although identity can be kind of boring or worse yet, competitive. like the literature says i find it better for a mentor-mentee type of relationship than a let's be friends and hang out type of relationship.

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