Socionics and Psychological Disorders

[Crispy]

http://www.ptypes.com

Alpha
ENTp
Personality Disorder: Compensatory Narcissistic
Basic Belief: I must attain a position of distinction or merit.
Strategy: Pretension.
ISFp
Personality Disorder: Cyclothymic
Basic Belief: I must escape from painful feelings and thoughts.
Strategy: Mastery through expertise.
ESFj
Personality Disorder: Masochistic
Basic Belief: I need others to need me.
Strategy: Submission
INTj
Personality Disorder: Schizotypal
Basic Belief: I need to consider only my own views; I must not be influenced by anyone.
Strategy: Eccentric thinking.
Beta
ENFj
Personality Disorder: Obsessive-Compulsive
Basic Belief: Errors are bad. I must not error.
Strategy: Perfectionism
ISTj
Personality Disorder: Depressive
Basic Belief: I am bad; nothing is pleasurable; there is no hope.
Strategy: Withdrawal.
ESTp
Personality Disorder: Narcissistic
Basic Belief: I am special.
Strategy: Self-aggrandizement
INFp
Personality Disorder: Histrionic
Basic Belief: I need to impress.
Strategy: Dramatics
Gamma
ESFp
Personality Disorder: Borderline
Basic Belief: Other people must satisfy my needs.
Strategy: Relationship change.
INTp
Personality Disorder: Schizoid
Basic Belief: I need plenty of space.
Strategy: Isolation
ENTj
Personality Disorder: Sadistic
Basic Belief: I need power over others.
Strategy: Dominance.
ISFj
Personality Disorder: Dependent
Basic Belief: I am helpless.
Strategy: Attachment
Delta
ESTj
Personality Disorder: Passive-Aggressive
Basic Belief: I could be stepped on.
Strategy: Resistance
INFj
Personality Disorder: Avoidant
Basic Belief: I may get hurt.
Strategy: Avoidance
ENFp
Personality Disorder: Paranoid
Basic Belief: People are potential adversaries.
Strategy: Wariness
ISTp
Personality Disorder: Antisocial
Basic Belief: People are there to be taken.
Strategy: Attack

In b4 shitstorm

[Marietta]

http://www.ptypes.com
ENFp
Personality Disorder: Paranoid
Basic Belief: People are potential adversaries.
Strategy: Wariness

ENFPs, what do you think of that? do you have a tendency for being paranoid? Seems a bit strange at 1st glance, but some enfps here identify themselves as enneagram 6, maybe there's sth to it?

[The Ineffable]

Note that ptypes is not Socionics. Basically different types, although some things coincide here and there.

[Morcheeba]

This is bunch of crap, any type can have any disorder. A psychological disorder occurs due to genetics or environment. I have bipolar and social anxiety as well. Their is a huge misconception that only introverts can have social anxiety, this isn't true. I have met many people that have the same disorders that I have and they have been all of the types.

[Marietta]

This is bunch of crap, any type can have any disorder. A psychological disorder occurs due to genetics or environment. I have bipolar and social anxiety as well. Their is a huge misconception that only introverts can have social anxiety, this isn't true. I have met many people that have the same disorders that I have and they have been all of the types.

there are many kinds of psychological disorders. the 1st post refers to personality disorders, which are different from anxiety disorders or mood disorders that you mentioned. it's a completely different (though controversial) group according to psychological classifications (not according to p-types ) . they are sth that is connected with personality as more or less stable structure, which in this case is considered disordered because it's too inflexible and too much of a "type".

still you could argue if sth like personality exists at all and if it does, which system describes it the most adequately (psychological big Five, socionics, mbti, ennagram or any other) or how different systems complement and fit with each other but the idea of personality disorders makes it type -related.

[noid]

Narcissistic Personality Disorder - ENTJ, ESTJ
malignant narcissism : INFj, ISFj

>> this two are extensively interessting to read about, cuz u indirectely understand the romantic relation beetween TeXXFi and FiXXTe. Gamma quadra most likely (ISFJ/ENTJ)

Borderline Personality Disorder - Fe dom, Fe second sx variant, Fi dom sx variant, Fi second.

Social Anxiety Disorder - perhaps introvert in general ?

Bipolar disorder - ???? a paper ive read said Se dom possible. I know too IRL an INXj who have it.

Antisocial Personality Disorder - SLE, SLI ok

Histrionic Personality Disorder - Fe

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder - ?????? rationnal

Schizoid personality disorder - impossible to say like this - I would say ILI are those who fit the most

Schizotypal personality disorder - ILI, IEI ok, at least reading PD description, but not really sure.

Dependent personality disorder - ???

Avoidant personality disorder - IEI, EII (most likely EII) perhaps Si dom too. IEI from what ive read is more on the dramatic like behavior (histrionic, borderline). There are more likely to have disorder from cluster B/A than C.

Paranoid personality disorder - ???????

[Jarno]

This is bunch of crap, any type can have any disorder.

you write a bunch of crap.

schizoid personality is correlated directly to ILI and LII.

According to a survey 45% was ILI, 50% LII, 5% other.

So don't give bullshit if you haven't investigated the matter or only know of 1 example.


Most personality disorders are well correlated to some type or temperament.

[Marietta]

schizoid personality is correlated directly to ILI and LII.

According to a survey 45% was ILI, 50% LII, 5% other.

what survey is that? do you have a link to its description? were there other disorders involved too?

[rat1]

I dont doubt a correlation but I'm pretty skeptical of such a high number. Rarely in psychology do you find such high correlations. I'd like to see what the survey looked like and who published it (socionics magazine). I dont know how they'd control for the schizoid personality disorder traits skewing the behavioral self report that socionics tests use. The whole point of the socionics test is to draw inferences on thought processes based on behavior.. but if the behavior is definitionally "introverted" in nature (i.e. schizoid), it's sort of circular that they would end up typed as introverts.

[The Ineffable]

This is bunch of crap, any type can have any disorder.

I don't think so, maybe *some* of them can be had by any type. "Personality disorder" is a broad term which may cover behavioral traits related to a large number of factors, including TR and NTR, there's not rule to attest your claim. There are PDs that simply can't be attached to a certain type, for instance it is pretty clear that you can't type a bipolar-affected to XLI, the personality traits are simply contradictory - eg. factual and emotionally stable personality of Te-Creative VS the radical changes of view based on mood of bipolars. I also think that elements of type traits can be found more or less among the symptoms of certain personality disorders.