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Last edited by eliza; 09-08-2011 at 03:52 PM.
I love deltas. I'm thinking about retyping LSE. New day, new me. I feel like donning a wifebeater, voting Republican, getting drunk, and reaming some Beta ST's ass.
I get along okay, it's hit and miss. I do get tension with SLI some times but it's minor and I usually forget about any pet peeves they may inflict.
male ENFps are usually one-sided annoyed at me. Like they're pissed at me for something, but I tend not to have an issue with them. Me and female ENFps get along okay. Sometimes great, even.
ESTj, the stereotypical 'workaholic' director type of the socion. Conservative values, work hard, all they talk about stuff I'm not too interested in. Natural clash.
ISTp. I get along with them okay but they tend to be suspicious of me. I probably also 'hurt their delta feelings.'
INFj, I can get along with them okay and connect on the fact that we both share the same sort of social timidty and shared sentimentality. But here's the thing. They tend to be spiritual and religious and I'm just not, and so we clash on that aspect. They're also kind of...housewife-ish or something in that conservative way that I'm not really, although we both tend to be homebodies.
They also are offended and aghast by my 'throat fuck humor' usually I've noticed.
I get along with Deltas very well actually.One of my best friends is an SLI, but I think it has to do with the fact that we are both E4's. I had a close friend for a # of years that was an IEE and we were practically inseparable. And the one guy who I think I was in love with was a definite LSE.
EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Petty inane details like whether there's a microscopic stain in the bathroom, or whether the lawn's mowed all right, or whether the food has a trace of MSG...
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Edited my previous post because I mixed up IEE's and EII's.
I haven't spent much time with Deltas (compared to other quadra representatives), but except for W. Mitt Romney and some LSE psychiatric nurses, I actually like most of the Delta STs, I respect and admire the SLIs for their skills, their intellect, and their charm. Deltas aren't quick to accept blame and that's a problem sometimes, but they're pretty cool.
The Delta NFs on average are okay, met and/or know of some I really liked, some who were too pushy, know of two whom I hated (Lincoln and Lieberman). Conflict relations are really not bad for me and often better than duality for me (Socionics primary usage for me was mental stimulation, never took it very seriously for relationships).
I'm sorry, but I'm psychologically disturbed.
Just act like a disinterested, zero ambition wagecuck
I can definitely get along with any type.
EIIs I tend to find a little boring, but we can always find something to laugh about and have a good time. The biggest problem with them is that you never know what's going to offend them, and then they'll either get all quiet (obviously judging you), or if you're close (or they're particularly forward) you'll be engaged in a Moral Confrontation in which they explain why what you said was Not Appropriate. That is irritating. But like I said, as long as you keep it superficial, they can actually be a whole lot of fun.
LSEs... eh... I mean, I can get along with them. I can make them laugh and stuff. But they're just confusing in general, and while I can follow their obsessive compulsion as necessary, if it satisfies an important goal for me, I would absolutely never ever ever put up with that in my inner circle of friends/family. I would remove myself from a close relationship with a person like that pretty quickly. But again, superficially, we can get along fine, as long as I present a good amount of mask.
IEEs I actually get along with pretty well. I don't mind them. Of all the deltas I think I like them the best. I just have to avoid certain sensitive issues, but since IEEs are more forward, it's usually easier to ascertain what the sensitive spots are. (For instance, I have a good IEE friend that I just don't talk about politics with). They're a lot of fun if you can get them gossipping about something that's in their safe zone of things to gossip about. It's even fun to let them get on their soapbox about their issue of choice, as long as you don't have strong feelings about the issue and can avoid letting them know your actual opinion.
SLIs. They confuse me the most out of all the deltas. I'm pretty sure I like them, but I'm never sure if they like me (I think that's reciprocal). They're usually dependable and fun, and often funny if you get them out of their shell. I'm just never sure about them, and that makes me nervous. But I really admire their dependability, at least all the ones I know. I don't think I've ever met a flakey SLI (perhaps they exist?). So yeah. This is usually a relationship of mutual appreciation in which neither party is secure enough in the appreciation to really grow all that close. Also I usually don't have any interest in being best friends with an SLI. I just sort of like them if they're around, and I really feel in their debt when they help me out. But I wouldn't go seek one out, to be honest.
Not a rule, just a trend.
IEI. Probably Fe subtype. Pretty sure I'm E4, sexual instinctual type, fairly confident that I'm a 3 wing now, so: IEI-Fe E4w3 sx/so. Considering 3w4 now, but pretty sure that 4 fits the best.
Yes 'a ma'am that's pretty music...
I am grateful for the mystery of the soul, because without it, there could be no contemplation, except of the mysteries of divinity, which are far more dangerous to get wrong.
I get along reasonably well with Delta NFs. I don't get along with Delta STs.
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
Yeah, LSE don't change much and they don't change how they do things that have worked for them, this is why they fall back to routine and don't change their dress style much once a practical solution's been reached.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I don't really know many Deltas at all... I seem to be a Beta and Gamma magnet.
The Deltas that I DO know are Moredhel (LSE) and an SLI.
Moredhel- He's basically my best friend. We tell each other everything and spend hours gossiping with each other (he's boring so I'm usually the one with the gossip---- I kid, I kid....). We seem to get on best when its just the two of us together or maybe one other person... otherwise we're not so chatty.
We often use eachother as a sense checker, trying to get perspective from the other side of the fense....
He also often looks after me when I'm upset... bringing me food and making me comfortable... no matter how much I squirm and get embarressed he's always been there for me. AND he gets my subway order right
He has described me as his bizarro twin from a parallel universe.
SLI friend - He and I don't have a very close friendship at all, yet we seem to gravitate towards eachother when we need a sensibility check. We seem to have a very serious friendship, in fact there isn't usually a lot of laughter which is unusual for me. I do appreciate him a lot and I find his stability makes me feel safe, which makes up for him being incredibly boring... heh.