EIE tritype 5w4, 4w5, 9w1
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
Carl Jung, "Memories, Dreams, Reflections", 1962
EIE-Ni =/= introspective. EIE-Ni is irrational, and EIE-Ni on DCNH is just withdrawing (I'm still not altogether convinced Gilly's not a C-EIE anyway, but I do agree EIE-j is ridiculous).
What do these signs mean—, , etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason, (Ne) is not exactly the same as Ne in MBTI.
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function (extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor Gulenko, Dmitri Lytov
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Well my identity is the big one. Its an anxiety of separation from a perceived "true self," which I have been on the hunt for since I realized that I very naturally and actively adapt my behavior to others, that I am keen at perceiving on a conscious but very instinctive level what others expect or desire from me. Realizing this sent me into a spiraling uncertainty from which, obviously, I have not completely recovered. It was a rather traumatic realization, and I have been trying to reign in the horses ever since, to synthesize all of my impulses into a more cohesive real personality. I think I am doing well in terms of external results, but I find myself wishing I could witness myself from an outside perspective, physically; I feel that this would give me the understanding of myself necessary to complete my self-transmutation. This is part of my unhealthy obsession with my type, to witness people like myself. I have yet to find a satisfactory subject.
IF ITS NOT THE DEFINITION ITSELF OF INTROVERTED FEELING, YOU NEED TO REVISE ENTIRELY YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF SOCIONIC, ENNEAGRAM, AND POSSIBLY ALL PERSONNALITY THEORY BASED ON JUNG !!!!!!!
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IVE JUST STOPPING TRUSTING ALL THIS FORUM SINCE YOU TYPE THIS TYPE OF REASONNEMENT AS ENFJ-FE
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Last edited by noid; 06-27-2011 at 08:55 PM.
Its actually an ENNEATYPE 6 problem duuuddeeeee !!!!!Yeah, this is 4 rather than 3, and probably dominant. The fixation of type 3 is being thought highly off by others, rather than seeking ones' true self. It really reminds me of myself.
Last edited by noid; 06-27-2011 at 09:38 PM.
So let me get this straight Gilly. It seems like you're pretty sure you're an EIE, but the only thing holding you back is the fact that you don't know your subtype?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously guy, you need to be aware that youre actually mistinterpreting Fe for Fi.
Im serious, and dont use smiley into this post for showing this.
Or Gilly suddenly switch from Fi to Fe for writing especially this paragraph ?
Im Ji Ne, in adition to be Ti obstinate, so I will be really stubborn on future discussion about this.
Last edited by noid; 06-27-2011 at 09:16 PM.
Im EII and go thru EXACTLY the same problem, as gilly write, and learn after that its the enneatype 6 core of insecurity, and the Fi CRUX.
Its having an internal sense of personnality without knowing what is it, and tend to define it with external "attachment".
When you lose this attachment, you reach a fear state where you know WHAT is you personnality without being able to say what is it, and voraciously try to reconstruct it with some stuff (theory, way to see ourself with Ne second probably).
ITS : : : : FI, INTROVERTED FEELING, INERT FEELING, "THE DEPRESSIVE ANXIOUS FUNCTION", THE IM WHO SUCK THE MORE IN THE WORLD.
WHAT YOU NEED to understand is that you dont actually introspect , like a enneatype 4 : you just DOUBT, and want to fill your uncertainty with some useless theory like socionic. Its as if you introspect with goal defined : you KNOW yourself, but continue to doubt and fill with shit, unless you feel your personnality secure.
warning : perhaps you are mistyped too.You've got to be kidding me and please, get more emoticons to convey your loss.
In your XXXX you have a Ne, I dont know what you type, but I hope its not some Ne polr or ignoring.
Last edited by noid; 06-27-2011 at 11:41 PM.
So ive made my crisis, Im ok now.
It allow me to have a new view on things.
Somewhat an inflation of my ego too.
Seriously, duh, I know my type, duh, and I don't need someone I fairly know to tell me I am wrong, duh.
You want fries with that ?Im serious, and dont use smiley into this post for showing this.
I don't even know what Jini is, what is it, Maritsa ?Im Ji Ne, in adition to be Ti obstinate, so I will be really stubborn on future discussion about this.
Its not yourself I was trying to retype. It perhaps appear like that, cuz I enter suddenly into a hulk rage retyping mode after seeing all wrong bullshit and self illusion on the top of this page.Seriously, duh, I know my type, duh, and I don't need someone I fairly know to tell me I am wrong, duh.
Ji Ne = Fi Ne or Ti Ne
Ji = IM rationnal introverted function
this notation come from MBTI theory, so Its possible thats not used on socionic. In this case sry for using this.
Being paranoid and in order to dissipate all possibe misinterpretation, I just added the term "notation", ie I dont refer to mbti theory (if only its a theory). Its just a notation im used to use.
The problem is your self descriptions are far too generalized to draw any worthwhile conclusions. I feel like I'm reading the forer effect right now. Honestly, the only thing that is obvious from reading this paragraph is that you are very extroverted and highly intuitive, but that isn't helpful at all.
“We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch
Ne-IEE
6w7 sp/sx
6w7-9w1-4w5
u use Fi. You very concerned with balance beetween your internal sense of self and the exterior.
but we can all doubt this more if we want to continue the thread
Re: E4, I don't think I can be one. I know E4s, I know two really damn well, and it's not the same fixation. I think my desire is to have an external identity that is authentic, but the source of insecurity is more external rather than internal; I'm more worried about others thinking I am fake and thinking I am ingenuine, don't have a soul, etc; I know who I am, but I feel very uncertain about whether or not I portray it in my self-representation, which I control and manipulative compulsively; hence the insecurity.
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
You seem ILE to me.
IEE Ne Creative Type
Some and role lovin too. () I too...
!!!!!!
search something with Fi and stop be self delusional : it was my advice.
edit : try to stop to define yourself from exterior, be aware of your own need : it was my second advice.
Last edited by noid; 06-30-2011 at 07:07 PM.
"The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."
-- Maurice Chapelain
I see the similar sx 3 fixation in each of you, but you go about it in different ways imo. Gilly will actively prod people, put on stickam charades just to see what kind of energy will result; whereas you for the most part seem to stay within yourself, with the occasional video post of guitar strumming and whatnot. Also, from what I remember of your pictures from that music show, introversion makes much more sense; you have a quiet, contained refinement that I see more in IEI 3s (or 3 wings, depending). Gilly is more starkly present in his composure and expression.
4w3-5w6-8w7